Matt J

I managed to keep up with a P1 from a rolling start (from about 30mph) and was on his rear bumper all the way up my runway *cough* dual carrige way, i saw him laughing before he set off as if to say "tin pot old ford with a loud exhaust, i shall dust him just to show him" he was right about the tin pot old ford bit,lol, but wrong about dusting me, oh and said incident happened while i was running 1 bar boost when its normally 1.2 bar...

fatherpierre

Matt, it's a shame your 1st post has to be bollox. I don't own a scooby but smell bullsh1t from your post.

I own a 260bhp ish MR2 turbo and have been beaten (close though) by a P1.

Your RSt (little t) wouldn't be in the races through any power band.

co55ie

aern't MR2 for girls ? A P1 is hardly rapid is it not when you 440bhp under the bonnet anyway.
I have seen some RST's pull 12 secs to a 100 which is quick as a P1, so girl's car driver your car must be really slow!!!!!
For the first time I agree with saxoboy some of those little saxo's absolutely fly and in a good state of tune would be a match for most scoob's

[Edited by co55ie - 9/20/2002 2:14:13 AM]

[Edited by co55ie - 9/20/2002 2:16:07 AM]

fatherpierre

Well I've got a ***** and own a MR2 T, so no, they aren't for girls.

On the other hand, you are a ***** and insist on boring us all with your ford/rust talk.

The years is now 2002, not 1988 - it's time to move on.

Redkop

Quote:

redkop-mags like fast ford and jap performance should come with a disclaimer.

something like- all performance figures,quarter mile times and bhp figures in this publication are the figment of the owners imagination and are not in any way realistic

or even a statement saying - Please Note: We have to inflate performance figures to make the article more sensational and in no way do they reflect actual figures.
This is so deluded muppets will still buy our mag

fatherpierre - I know you know jack **** about cossies - but I must point out to you, not all cossies were built in 1988 - last ones were built in 1996 and as pointed out before, the ones built in Germany - do not rust A little knowledge is dangerous


[Edited by Redkop - 9/20/2002 10:18:12 AM]

LG John

I'm told the s/c VTS's will do the 1/4 mile in 12.5-13 seconds in the right hands (i.e. skills in 1st and 2nd) and I would have thought a UK scooby would need in the region of 330bhp to do a 1/4 mile in 12.5. Bearing in mind I'll have about 275-80 I'm falling a little short!!

323GTR

There's a guy in the 200+ club with a supercharged Saxo, I think he now has it up to 200+ BHP at the wheels. Seems to eat gearboxes though, I guess that happens when you put double the designed power through.

On slicks, It probably would do 12s on a quarter mile, power to weight ratio must be mental. On road tyres, he is struggling to get low 13s I think from memory. Fastest FWD I have seen is a Maestro using a T16 engine, he's now run a 12.29 1/4, but he uses some very specialised rubber to get the power down, nit slicks but not far off.

Fair play to people who build cars like this, I've done it myself in the past. But I can't help thinking nowadays that buying a better base car and improving on that will give you a better all round car in the long run. It will be much easier to live with and has to be more reliable in a lower state of tune. Horses for courses and all that. And the final costs end up the same anyway, since if you're prepared to spend say £10K modding a £5K car, why not spend £5K modding a £10K car? I know which one will be worth most when the time comes to sell...

co55ie

yep your right the 5K car aint going to depreciate like the 10k one

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Ive a mate who had a fiesta RS turbo with 165bhp, his brother has an impreza (208bhp) which he has now modified
My mate kept up with his brothers scoob in the dry on some twisties (but his bro hadnt had his scoob for long so was still getting use to it) but what counted is when they got back, mates brother got out of his scoob, turned off and went inside, mates car was overheating etc (and this had been professionally built!) as it needed to work its ***** off to keep up with the scoob! (oh and it also ate gearboxes due to the ammount of torque....)
So basically all these "high powered rst's" that you see, maybe one in 200 has been built properly, gearbox etc where as the rest are all bumped up power on a chip, loads of psi and one engine that will go bang!

Tony

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Oh i should mention that my mate now owns an impreza which he enjoys much better than his old fiesta rst

Tony

manny

I must admit to owning 2 S2 RST's, the first one i spent over 5 grand on the engine including pistons, head, cam, intercooler uprated turbo etc etc, even fitted a rear anti roll bar and some cossie wheels putting out 250 BHP at 18PSI reliably (built by Gordon Leeming in Newcastle). Torque steer was a nightmare but it was miles faster than my scooby feels, got rid of it when the chasis started to crack under the strain.....still the most fun i've had with my pants on!

323GTR

Co55ies wrote :-

yep your right the 5K car aint going to depreciate like the 10k one

So a £5K saff cossie will be worth more in a years time than a £10K RS500?

co55ie

No there values will be worth pretty much the same unlike a jap shed.
What a stupid comment cause if you had half a brain you wouldn't mod a 500 you melon
Do you drive a MAZDA 323

[Edited by co55ie - 9/20/2002 2:06:53 PM]

Toad

Allright Co55ie-your covers been blown cos I've read your posts on the GTR skyline website and on there you seem a thoroughly decent bloke.And you admitted that you come on here a wind people up for a laugh!certainly makes for interesting posts as everyone always catches the bait!!!!!


Toad.

323GTR

Co55ie,

No I probably wouldn't mod an RS500, lots of people have though. A nice, original RS500 would be a great car to own, I wouldn't buy one though, as I'd want to use it all the time instead of keeping it for the odd blast.

Yes I do drive a Mazda 323. Feel free to voice your opionions, I know your not shy with them .

co55ie

toad I have never posted on the skyline site.
Nothing wrong with Mazda's aern't they really fords though ?

fatherpierre

Redkop:

I know all I want to know about Cossies. I know I would never even consider buying one.

They're ugly, dowdy and stuck firmly in the 1980s. They may well have been produced until 1996 but it doesn't detract from their tardy image.

Besides, I was referring to Sierras.

And WTF does being produced in Germany have to do with them not rusting? Are the Germans the only people who can make a car that doesn't rust?

Carlos The Jackel

Hmmm, My FRST had 165bhp and it wasn't "high powered" LOL,for a modded FRST that is low powered, never been rebuilt - or "profesionally built". Why you would need that for 165bhp? i don't know anyway unless it was a dog to start with. For 165bhp in a FRST all you need is a Chip/Uprated actuator and set up on a Rolling Road!! No Overheating and at 165bhp defo not eating gearboxes. With a set of 15" wheels instead of the cr@p 14"'s it comes with it transforms the handling(more neutral) and not much more toque steer - i got Scoobie speeds for £3k. Sadly No more though.

Carlos The Jackel

Oh almost forgot - it rusted quicker than a rusty thing that sits at the bottom of the sea trying to rust!!

323GTR

Ford own Mazda, not sure when they bought them though to know whether mine qualifies as a Ford Mazda...

fatherpierre

They bought 25% of Mazda in 1979 and own 36% of it now, so they don't technically own Mazda!

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Carlos,
should have said that he was running 17's at the time but that car didnt like gearboxes it just ate em (or it was the fact he use to murder that car lol!)

Tony