SimonEvoExtreme

I doubt that Claudius would be happy them doing that beacuse it is set up for tarmac

I understand where Claudius is coming from and it does depend on the circumstances. The real issue is the difference between test drive and joy ride. In addition, it also depends who drives it. A workshop manager, senior mechanic etc. who hasn't got race/rally or similar experience shouldn't be testing cars to the max.

P20SPD

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Bingo SimonEvoExtreme

You have hit the nail on the head

Brendan Hughes

Well, 85 posts and JF's finally brought up the subject of engines warming up properly. Glad someone did.

Still no-one's mentioned the problems caused by shutting the engine down immediately after a blast. How many of these raggers do you think let the turbo cool for 2 minutes first?

Claudius

That'll take a while to do

I didnt know I was French??

So you are saying that if a mechanic or someone else or yourself trash your car for a short period of time, something will break on it?? I have trashed my car for 12,000 miles now and nothing has ever broken.

I never said anybody should drive your car like a prat! Just that during suspension testing, you will get it sideways, sometimes big style, and I cant see how that harms the car.

As for making someone go out of business for driving your car in a way you dont like, I think you're a little bit harsh, here.

I do that too

Claudius

Why are you people so aggressively enclined towards the people who service your car and make sure it works well??

Only if I dont know it already and they show my a few tricks

Be serious, dont misinterpret what I say on purpose! You get me wrong intentionally to slag me off afterwards, what kind of an attitude is that? I'm discussing mechanics driving your car with you, and you feel the need to verbally aggress me because you disagree?? Grow up and broaden your views.

Claudius

Listen to this guy, he understands what I'm saying and has got the right dosis of humour

Brendan Hughes

FOR GOD'S SAKE!! Isn't this the entire point of the thread??? As we can safely assume that it is not a senior mechanic without such experience who borrows people's rally reps and thrashes the nuts off them in his lunch hour to impress his girlfriend, then why do you spend so much time defending them?

Sod it, wish I had some work to do, it would stop me reading this crap.

BJH

Claudius

people THAT stupid should not be allowed to service ANY car!
I think we're not talking baout the same league of people here.

Of course no need to drive fast to try the A/C filter change

Mathew

took my car in for service today, but made sure that the petrol had just gone on to red, that way they will not try to drive too far.

MATTeL

The one time my dealer took my car out for a road test with a technician driving I was asked to join him. Not invited ("would you like to"), asked ("the car is going for a road test and is just coming out of the workshop, will you go with them?").

I went outside and the passenger door was open!

I guess it depends on the dealers and the technicians involved.

With TSL you are always taken (not even asked) as part of the road test is you driving to make sure you are happy. Any issues could be discussed while the drive takes place!

I did have a tyre dealers in Rickmansworth want to take the car out... I told them it would be fine. I was very doubtful of that one!

johnfelstead

If your not french then i guess living there is rubbing off!

I think you are being deliberately thick now claudius with your, we must be talking about two diferent type of people and rally car comments.

Claudius

Most definitely!

Why would I be thick deliberately? I'm blond, maybe that explains part of it!

NDT

This is getting silly.

It's a matter of property. No one has the right to take your car for a joy ride, just because they happen to work at the dealer that's doing some work on it.
You leave the car there for them to fix it. Nothing else.
It's totally unprofessional, and they don't deserve to be in business.

Call the police - TWOC.... they may also be interested in the way he was driving...
Talk to the manager.
If no comeback from talking to the manager of the dealer, I'd try IM and / or your local paper.
And name & shame on this site.

don't get mad, get even....

Scooby Snacks

Fully agree with NDT.

SiDHEaD

Although a small few like their cars to be cained by young mechanics who arent used to the cars, it should be left up to them to specify they don't mind. If this wasnt specified the garages need to assume you don't want it driven more than a couple of miles etc (dependant on work done).

I would be gutted if i'd spent 27k on a car and saw it whizz past sideways by some1 i hadnt consented to driving it - as would most!!!

Andy

Floyd

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One of my scoobs had 20+ miles on it when it came back from a service and I wasn't happy [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

I asked the service manager what oil he put in the car, he said he thought it was semi synth but wasn't sure but I shouldn't worry as it's got a warranty hasn't it? I didn't take it back there again....

F

Stueyb

When I took my 306 XSi to be serviced at a dealership, I found an extra 100 Miles on the clock. They couldnt tell me where it had gone and gave me a poxy 10% off next service thing. I now take it to Skip Brown to be serviced. They aint cheap but they are excellent as proven by their 5 - 8 week waiting list ! These are the true Pug pros ! They test before and after a service, and whats more I trust em.

I think it all comes down to who you trust.

Attu

I took my car in for service and also had the cam belt changed and with all these stories I made sure i noted the milage when it was dropped off.
Well picked the car up, they had washed it which was nice and then i looked at the milage......nothing they hadnt been out in it??
Now im wondering WHATS WRONG WITH MY CAR that no one wants to go for a joy ride in it
No joking aside in relived they didnt go out in it and also the have done a top class job.

Andy

WREXY

Quote from Brendan Hughes,
Without taking anything away from JF, it was I that brought up the subject of engines warming up properly. My post is directly under his, so it was easy to mix up.

Also you are right about the turbo needing to cool down for a minute or two before shut down. I doubt they allow the engine to idle after a thrash at service.

Cheers,

Wrexy.

NBW

Take your car back in to the dealer, and complain about some obscure problem that only occurs intermittently.

Ask for the mechanic that worked on your car to come out for a test drive with you so that he can hear/feel the problem for himself. Insist on the same mechanic.

Take said mechanic on test drive out into the country, pull over somewhere and suggest he has a go. When he jumps out, drive off.

(Best done late in the afternoon in winter, or failing that when it's pi55ing down).

'Respect me, respect my motor'

fatherpierre

Even though it's a ****'s trick what the grease monkey did with you motor, but how many of you would do the same if you worked in a garage and had the opportunity to have a burn in a fast motor? Imagine you can only afford a c reg fiesta 950cc and you work in a garage that looks after Ferarris, etc! Very tempting!

NBW

B0ll0cks! If you've got respect you'd treat every customers car like you'd expect your own to be treated.

sammyh

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To update I am still waiting for an expanation and for the tracking to be re-done which is why my car was there in the fist place!

Brendan Hughes

Wrexy - touché and apologies - couldn't be arsed to read 85 posts to check

CrisPDuk

WREXY & Brendan, I was told by a friend of mine who works for an RX7 specialist that you shouldn't thrash a turbo car, then leave it to stand idling before turning it off. It is quite obvious when you think about it, all the heat from the turbo can only escape through an already hot exhaust. which is running under an equally hot transmission. I always drive the final 2-3 miles home at low revs to get some cool air under the car, then leave the turbo-timer on for 30secs, because it's cool
P.S. I use my local main dealer (Monks Heath) for everything, and am exceedingly happy with the service I get

yoza

Sammy,
A word of warning.......
If you ever agree to let me drive your car I will thrash it!
Just so you know
PS Im a dodgey jockey
LATER YOZA

Luke

Ask anyone who has been to Dublin,Liverpool etc to pick up saome imported cars.....I have many times. I can assure you the lads unloading the cars "rip the guts out of them"
A mate who has imported 100's cars Pays someone in Dublin to make sure his cars are looked after

Also many dealers a few years ago would pay to have other dealers cars damaged etc...