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Old Jul 19, 2002 | 04:40 PM
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might be interested saying ive not got the brakes i was after (thanks tony sorry to hear about wheels)but is there anychance that the 3 weeks could be shorter?
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Old Jul 19, 2002 | 05:00 PM
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Paul, i've had to drop out because of the expensive of buying new wheels not cos the price has gone up. That wouldn't have bothered me.

Maybe i shouldn't have bought the 4 pots then i wouln't have needed the new wheels .

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Old Jul 19, 2002 | 06:55 PM
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From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
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or just used spacers
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Old Jul 19, 2002 | 08:11 PM
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Can everyone intersted please email me with what you want (AVO or Bilstein or unsure), how you want to pay (credit card, cheque etc).

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Old Jul 19, 2002 | 08:47 PM
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Yep, your right David, would have still been in if i could have got the spacers done. Unfortunately i couldn't even find someone to supply some aluminium plate . If you've got any ideas then let me know and i'll jump at the chance to be in the group buy agen! (the OZs i ordered can't be found in silver at the mo' so they'll be a long delay ).

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Old Jul 19, 2002 | 10:23 PM
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If you can get 10mm spacers, I am sure they can be skimmed down to 7mm no problem.

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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 07:57 AM
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I can get 10mm spacers no probs but they are universal for PCD100 -135 (the scooby is 100mm) so the overall diameter is huge. So they sit out between the brake and wheel and look stupid, you can't just cut it down either cause the outer rib is only a few mm thick so instead of a circle you end up with a star. Not ideal. If somebody can get 10mm aluminium plate and David can cut one out and machine it im in! Please .

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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 10:03 AM
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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 04:50 PM
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Paul,

When are you looking to close the group but?

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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 05:04 PM
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From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
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ToneLoc..

Drop me a mail as I can get the plate... Ally plate is not cheap though!.. I might be able to get it in offcuts though...

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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 05:25 PM
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For those interested, please email me to let me know what you want to buy, how you wish to pay, and your full name (so I can give a list to motosport world for them to check people off against).

As for when to close the group buy, I think end of next week at the earliest, as there is/was a 3 week lead time on the AVO parts. Once the list of people is submitted to Motorsport world, you will each need to telephone/send your payment details, for most of use this will be credit card details, and of course your delivery address.

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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 11:32 PM
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IS AVO 100MM LOWER not 60mm
please tell me if wrong but thought it was 100
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Old Jul 21, 2002 | 07:27 AM
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If you want to go 80-100mm lower than standard, you are going to coilovers of some description. I don't know how low the standard springs will take you, but looking at the pictures the POC put on the first page, it looks like at least 60mm lower.

If you want to go lower still, it's going to cost you a set of springs. You might get away with putting the front springs on the back, and getting new ones for the front.

The MOT test requires that your springs don't come lose on full extension of the suspension. Short, hard springs might do just that, but you can fit "helper" springs, which are low rate (as low 25lb) flat coil springs that always keep a little tension in the setup.

The AVO setup uses 2.25inch internal diameter springs, these are a standard size for most raing shocks, so springs are easy to come by. At Merlin Motorsport (the only prices I have to hand) a of 400lb spring 8" long would be £17.40+vat, helper springs are £12.95+vat each, and the adapters to join them are about £8.50+vat each.

So unfortunately the AVO setup will only take you so far.

I will however ask if the kit can be supplied with alternative springs to suit <Dr Evil>LOW</Dr Evil>.

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Old Jul 21, 2002 | 01:08 PM
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Thanks
nice if i can have the lower springs
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Old Jul 21, 2002 | 05:09 PM
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It's worth asking, but I would give them a try first, a little goes a long way in the lowness stakes.

I don't like the sound of my expensive downpipe scraping the top of speed bumps...

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Old Jul 21, 2002 | 08:43 PM
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From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
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your first post disappeared as you edited it too many times..

Some bug in the software... Lower than 80mm .... my hks **** cost me more than the suspension.

David
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Old Jul 21, 2002 | 09:28 PM
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Just a little q ...
Have I understand it correct that in the AVO kit springs are included...right..or..??

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Old Jul 21, 2002 | 10:28 PM
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Kvarnis,

The AVO kit does come with springs. Mouseman just wants to go VERY low, so he migh have to buy some harder, shorter springs, depending on how the standard ones are.

They should bolt straight on in place of originals, the only thing you should need is the rubber top mounts that join the shocks to the chassis.

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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 05:45 AM
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OK
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 11:30 AM
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Im going to have to pull out guys, sorry
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 11:57 AM
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Current state of affairs

People Interested:

Confirmed by email:
David Wallis___AVO
MouseMan_______AVO (please can you give my your full name)
Mathew_________AVO
Jan____________AVO
Jan's Friens___AVO

Interested, yet to confirm:
Scootie5_______AVO

Possibly interested:
Myself_________AVO (finances allowing...)
T_UK___________AVO/BILLY
Ragos__________AVO/BILLY (possibly either kit rubbing issue etc)
c2scoops_______AVO

Please confirm if you are defintely interested, remember to include your full name.

Thanks, and now we have 5 definite people, and if everyone else on the provisional list joins in, that's 10.

Paul

updated those that confirmed.

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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 04:26 PM
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 04:36 PM
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Thanks Mouseman,

I emailed Colin at MSW about lowness, he said as standard, the kit will lower about 60mm, which is pretty damn low. If you wanted to go lower, you would definitely need harder shorter springs, and possibly some decent elastomer bumpstops.

However, any setup would need non standard springs, and you're unlikely to be able to do it any cheaper than this.

You've got the time it takes the board to revolve to make yer mind up!

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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 05:06 PM
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i still want it
will have to see what 60mm looks like
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 08:22 PM
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Mouseman, if you look in the Gallery, "Nearly finished, an ickle bit lower..." - you'll see my MY00 with AVO coilovers on. Currently set at about 3/4 at front & 3/4 at rear - the car will go lower than I have it set at.

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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 09:02 PM
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Why do you want to go that low?

I had to raise my AVOs from the settings I installed them on as the front would catch on speed bumps and kerbs. It's still plenty low enough after I've raised it.
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 11:29 PM
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Looked at the pic of your car
very nice (could be lower)
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Old Jul 23, 2002 | 09:04 AM
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I guess you're after that "tyres dissapearing in the arches look" eh?

There is a very low new shape Honda crx coupe near me, looks okay, until you see the thing bounce along, and have to site and wait behind it as he takes ages to slide over the rubber speed bumps.

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Old Jul 23, 2002 | 11:21 PM
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will have to drop out couldnt wait 3 weeks so got some tanabe pro coilovers instead
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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 07:12 AM
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I have to check an offer for Prodrive Proffesional kit from a friend until 3rd of August so I presume I am out of the closing dates.

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