Erm......Yes I run it with all of the sides on, but as you can see she is still being built mate

Here is what I do with the cables:

 

what i mean is sorry for lack of description,

IS there a differnt connector going into each fan, ive got a internal zip super disk cd rom, 3 har drive etc,

only 3 fan plugs on mobo im running out big time!

 

It is an Inwin Q500 case. I have had loads of cases, but these are by far the best IMO. This is my second one. Done Globalwins, Antecs, Aopens, chieftecs. You name it, I have pretty well tried them all. These are my favourite ones. Deep and tall with tons of room for drives. The extra 6 3.5 HDD bays are missing from this picture, but you get what I mean. Hard to get hold of nowadays tho.

Cheers,

Nick

 

mines Aopen , 4 extra bays i beleve easy enought to rip out im guessing!

Summer project save up £500 and add to my PC

 

Power doublers mate! I have one connector bonded to the top of the bottom sectionm of the case. Is you look closely you will see it above the fans. From there a doubler is run around to the back making t points available, then a doubler is inserted into both of these, making four power points available for the front fans from 1 power plug I always squash down the female ends of the power connectors tho to help ensure a good connection, as these can be hit and miss.

 

Where can i buy them?

bet your thinking why me lol

im gonna hound you with questions till i get it right lol
Cheers mate

Si

 

I've got an SM750. 6 3.5" bays would be handy though

 

my baby im gonna have the flow meter coming out on of the 5 1/4 bays! so keep tabs on it

Si

 

Off for cool factor lol will look good im hoping, Ill email it now !

£23 i think it said, colour dyes temping to..

 

not convinced about the watercooling on Intel processors. I remember when the Compaq 8-way servers were being developed and there were all sorts of internal communications about watercooling being too unreliable. One of the products was droped and a totally new air cooled design was commisioned.

The published processor speed is only an approximation and a 1.8GHz could be anywhere between 1.79 and something like 1.9GHz (depending on the quality of the silicon), so overclocking isn't really a risk providing you don't go to mad.

Phil

 

so water on a P4 is bad then???

hmm have to re-think

 

I too would only say that watercooling should be left in the hands of enthusiasts. Servers in an ideal world have the internals left alone for like a year at a time.
I think that in such a mission-critical environment, providing 100% foolproof watercooling would cost an absolute fortune.
Most watercooling setups for consumer use state that you shouldn't leave them on for days at a time. The odd 48-72 hour stint is fine, but they tend to sit in the side of caution. Watercooling for consumer use now is very reliable, it's just getting over people's fears of these things. I was one of them, but soon realised that things have progressed nicely for consumer setups, where if you build it well, you won't ever get a drip leaking out and all that you have to do is have a quick look at the coolant level every few month's.

Please...... The P4 design incorporates a tried and tested excellent thermally triggered CPU throttling technology, where if the Chip's internal thermal diode detects overheating, it simply slows the CPU accordingly. I have seen this on video and have also tried it with one of work's machines . This could still possibly be slightly motherboard-dependant, I dunno, but on the one in the viedo and the acer rig at work, they both did there job admirably

You are way, way safer running one of these with watercooling than you would ever be with a Athlon. I have already done the watercooled AthlonXP thing as some of you know and am almost finished building my watercooled P4 2.2.
Si, one little comment and you change your mind again....


Cheers,

Nick

 

er..... still think im gonna do it just for experience

 

That Tom's Hardware almost had me in tears when I watched it a few days ago . These guy's provide good info, but can be absolute cowboys at times. Trying to graunch those pipes on, bolting the 120mm fan to the back of that case with such a few tiny, inefficient holes, horribly, horribly wrong. Unfortunatly there was a lot that I could pick away at, but they are good guy's and do things for the common good of us at the end of the day.
Watercooling should not be rushed. Time should be paid to detail. It all pays off in the end. I am my second Watercooling rig now and that is all that I can say about it.

Cheers,

Nick

[Edited by Mr Footlong - 7/8/2002 9:48:13 PM]

 

I'm still baffled by doing this unless you've got a top of the range CPU ie want to go faster than any CPU you can buy.

A new P4 1.8Ghz is £125+VAT on my trade price list.

So, flog that for say £75.

A new P4 2.2Ghz is £180+VAT, so that's £110 difference for a guarenteed 2.2Ghz with no warranty, PCI / AGP clock issues etc. Compares to £160 just for the cooling kit.

When Intel drop in the 2.8Ghz, 2.66Ghz and 2.53Ghz CPUs this quarter, the P2 2.4Ghz will slide down from the current £290. I wouldn't be surprised to see it in the £200 mark.

Just seems a lot of hardwork for a few more Mhz. Not that I'm adverse to a few 'free' Mhz though. I've had a Celeron 566 running at 850Mhz for 12 months or more now with no trouble.

[Edited by ChrisB - 7/9/2002 9:55:22 AM]

 

Trust me mate, I am well used to being bugged!. Mail me your address again and I will give you 3 or 4 as I have loads.

You don't need the flow meter with a P4. They have extremely good thermal control and throttle their speed right down if they sense overheating. This would soon show you that the water has stopped, but it will be fairly unlikely with an Eheim water pump that they come with The flow meters do seem pretty pricey, but do look cool.

[Edited by Mr Footlong - 7/9/2002 10:59:27 AM]