SmurfyBhoy

Not yet. Haze will be next year

My mates do lots of them.

DarkusDarkus

Smithys STI

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Lol...luckily my wife has natural lips!
Thanks mate

SmurfyBhoy

Had Daytona out for a little photoshoot at "work" today.

One advantage of lockdown is the Hotel is closed to public.

Mar Hall Glasgow

Puff The Magic Wagon!

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This is Remo, my Brittany Spaniel rescue

markjmd

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Has Brad Pitt been in to show us his yet?

WRXrowdy

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Huge problem at the moment is massively inflated lockdown price of pups. Breeders might think high prices mean owners will be more committed but the problem is my area is now inundated with pikeys going around punching people and stealing their dogs, presumably to breed them but I guess if the dog is neutered it is then used as bait for dog fighting. 80 dogs recovered in Wales, with a value of £40k

johno01

Thats fckin awful mate 🤬🤬 I don’t even want to think that’s happening.

WRXrowdy

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Sadly it is down on the south coast. The problem is these ‘dog lovers’ that breed and then charge 10x the amount the particular breed used to be before lockdown (I mean, £1500 for a Jack Russell for fvcks sake!) are creating a massive amount of distress for dogs and their owners through their own profiteering.
City workers that are now working from home with no travel expenses so can pay the over inflated prices which has helped push prices up hasn’t helped.
Lockdown restrictions back in April that favoured people with pets that needed exercising giving them an excuse to go out without fear of reprimand also didn’t help.

It may not be happening in towns, but in the sticks where I live every dog owner now has to be on their guard, thanks to the money grabbing b@stards that now expect £3k or more for the puppies they are selling.

Sooner the prices go back to normal the more likely dogs are not going to get stolen as much, and less dogs will be either bred for litters multiple times a year until they die of exhaustion, or killed when the dog theives realise they are neutered and either shot or used to train fighting dogs

johno01

I understand mate. Like myself there’s a lot of dog owners on here who would be devastated if there dog got “snatched”. People getting punched for there dogs is just as low as it gets for me and would result in serious jail time if I found the culprit. I bet this didn’t happen during the 60’s etc...this earth is getting worse. I wonder how the world will be in 15 years time odd when my son is a young adult. Does anyone think the same? This place is getting worse and what the hell is in store for our young children 😳

Norman Dog

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WRXrowdy

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It will be interesting what happens in a year or two. When everything hopefully settles down re Covid. The government are going to need to recoup the national debt.
What people don’t realise is £2.5-£3k a puppy is taxable income. A friend of the wife breeds golden retrievers. Has done for years, not realising she should declare and pay tax. A year or two ago she got a demand for £25k from the tax man

SmurfyBhoy

Some breeds have always been expensive tho

Can't really get a decent registered Bully for sub 3k

The latest one me & mate got from US was well over 10k

Some carry a 1.5-2.5k stud fee & i have seen one studded for 5-10k a pop

As for breeding a bitch to death thats just a disgrace & they should be hung. With ABKC you cannot register more than 3 litters from the 1 bitch & both stud & bitch must be over 18 months at a minimum for 1st litter.

WRXrowdy

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Oh yeh I know some breeds have always been expensive. Some breeds though have never been, until lockdown last year.
My wife is constantly looking at classified ads for puppies (because 3 dogs isn’t enough, apparently!) and prices as I say are nearly 10x their ‘normal’ price. £1500 for a Jack Russell (I think our old Jack Russell was around £150-200 17 years ago) and Springers £2.5-£3k. They were commonly 3-400 before.

I don’t have so much of a problem with rare breeds that have always been expensive being expensive, what I have a problem with is the fact that all dogs have become silly money now and it is causing massive problems with crime, animal cruelty, mental distress to owners and physical violence, and all for a bit of coin in the pocket because well, everyone else is doing it why can’t we. And I put money on it that these people breeding the dogs claim to be animal lovers. They probably worry about the character of the person that comes to buy their puppies, and hope that they will be well treated, yet it is their own greed and stupidity that is putting that puppy they may well care about in great danger.

Do you think anyone that is inclined to steal a dog is worried about how often it has a litter? No. These people will watch you walk your dog. They may send a female to make contact with you, keep you talking and then you are sprung and your dog snatched. The may also follow you home and then they come into your garden and ****** the dog, or as I said earlier there have been reports of people being assaulted and I’ve even heard of one case where someone was punched unconscious so their dog could be taken. So they aren’t going to be the type to register with any dog trust and worry about ethics and how many litters they can get out of a bitch.

My wife was out with one of ours the other week and a transit van kept driving around our village, went past her a few times she said they kept looking at her. She took the number plate of the van and it disappeared after that. But it makes you paranoid about taking them out. I wear steel toe caps so if I’m approached I will make sure they are incapable of carrying on the family lineage, and my father in law usually has a .308 or 22 live with him when he is out with his and wouldn’t hesitate to defend himself either but nobody should have to think like that.

SmurfyBhoy

Yea but stolen dogs won't have any papers & their puppies wouldn't be registered so not worth anything near what a thouroughbred is. That was my point about too many litters it becomes more hassle than it's worth trying to sell knock off dogs. Hard enough trying to sell legitmate ones.

Most normal breeds are available from cat & dog homes and i don't think it would be too much hassle to get your "bait" dogs from there so the whole theft for bait and dog fighting i really don't buy into. I do believe it happens but will be nowere near as widespread as is made out. At least not up here in Scotland it seems.

WRXrowdy

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I am not sure you fully understand what I mean. I know pedigree breeds are more expensive, I have a pedigree golden retriever with papers. The point I am trying to make is all dogs have massively increased in price, which is making it more attractive for people to steal them, be it pedigree or otherwise. They end up in puppy farms. People who steal them don’t give a toss what happens x months down the line.
Have you tried getting a rescue dog recently? It’s not as simple as going in, choosing a dog and leaving a donation. Nowadays you have to be vetted, and often includes someone coming out to your home and checking suitability so no, it is not easier for pikeys to get rescue dogs for baiting.
Check the classified ads for prices of dogs, and google information on the massive increase in dog thefts if you are so dismissive about what I have to say about the worrying trend of people making a fast buck by charging over the odds for dogs now.

hedgecutter

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The other problem with breeders, even so called good ones, is that they have historically bred for certain features, so some breeds are fighting health issues from the moment they are born. Sadly the breeds most at risk are currently the most popular ones, which makes the problem even worse, as many see it as a cash cow, have a litter or 2, and make the problem even worse. My daughter is nearly a qualified vet, so has had to work at a number of surgeries all over southern England, so has seen this 1st hand. If you had seen a snub nosed breed being put down because it can't breathe in normal summer temperatures, you wouldn't buy one. I know this may offend people who have one, but it's a sad reality, and affects all of them to some degree.

SmurfyBhoy

Couldn't agree more

Because the pocket bully is one of most wanted there are folk crossing them with frenchies to get the shortness.

These so called Micro Bullys or "Extreme Micro Bullys" are just hideous and will be lucky to last longer than a stock 2.5 @ 450bhp

WRXrowdy

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Just been loooking at local ads in my lunch break. £4000 for a wire haired pointer, £1500 for Jack Russell cross, cheapest a grand.

For those thinking this isn’t a problem, it even happens to travellers.
A couple of years ago one of my wife’s employees went to a shop on her lunch break. There was a dog being miss treated outside so the employee had a right go at the ‘owner’ and was offered the dog for a couple of hundred quid. She came back to the shop, informed my wife who phoned the police, took £200 out the till and went and got the dog where it was safe.
The police arrived, as did a couple of travellers that said it was their dog and one of the travellers on their site had taken it. They paid my wife back and took the dog once the police were happy they were the owners.

SmurfyBhoy

Not saying it isnt a problem but you car's is more likely to be stolen than your dog.

Although i'd be much more upset if it was the latter.

WRXrowdy

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Yes maybe, funnily enough I was going to use that as an analogy yesterday before you did!
akin to the prices of scoobies going up, one starts the rest follow but like you say I think every dog owner would be more upset having their pet stolen rather than a car.
As you say you are in Scotland. Not sure how populated your country is with travellers.

johno01

Ive heard of cases were these scumbags with the puppy farms will use a “normal friendly family “ to sell the dogs and probably throw them 50 quid so no suspicions are aroused on arrival. Then after a couple weeks the dogs stop eating, become lethargic etc which results in a visit to the vet and a hefty bill because there’s all kinds wrong, sometimes they can’t be helped 🤬

SmurfyBhoy

The worst part is stealing a dog & stealing a mobile phone result in same charge you would prob get into more trouble for car theft than dog theft.

The sooner the sort the law out and send the a55holes down for a good few years the sooner it stops.

rihanabbb

Our Puli, Jeff Goldblum is about 11 months old now, so he’s in that difficult stage.


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MrRtm

Our Yuki, although I'm still not sure she knows she's a dog. We're just hitting malting season which means regular vortexes of hair on our leisurely drives.

Bean1984

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Shandy (jackchi) was my boy before the shebeast (ex) had all of his details transferred into her name. Ain't gonna lie I do miss him.

If she come to me n said you can have Shandy back in exchange for my bugeye impreza that's sitting at £25k at present, I wouldn't even need 60 seconds too think about it...

Moley

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Telero

Hey guys, here are lovely pets. To be honest, I got a cat for the first time but fortunately, they are doing great together. I read all the articles on this website https://www.catfoodpoint.com/how-muc...to-feed-a-cat/ about cat care. I shouldn't have worried, everything is okay and quite simple.

RobsyUK

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My Lucy. She never goes in the cars if I can help it.
she has more hair then 12 dogs.

Going on 12yrs old, probably the best dog in the world.

WRXrowdy

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Our retriever Molly. She will be 14 in a couple of months. Eric is behind her peeping out of the blanket (don’t worry the photo wasn’t taken in this heat)
You might have seen him with his brother Ernie earlier in the thread, nobody tried guessing what flavour they are. Well, they are cross bred from quite a large male standard dachshund and a small female golden retriever.
Eric has more of a retriever temperament and Ernie more dachshund. Ernie is a very intelligent dog but untrainable being a hound.
He understands a lot of human language, if my wife asks them if they want a sweetie (dog treat) he goes straight to the utility room and looks at them, if she says do you want a sausage he goes straight to the fridge.
If my wife says she is going to the toilet he goes straight to the hallway door, because his favourite thing in life is an empty toilet roll tube.

Molly is a bit thick for a retriever, although that is partly down to age nowadays.