Bob Rawle and his attitude problem.
06 April 2019, 05:18 PM
#121
I joined the linkg4 forum and sure enough I had someone respectable answer my questions and the bonus was he was only 30miles from me , I can usually get an answer from him in a couple of days with a apology for taking so long .
He spent 4 hrs mapping my car with me sat in the passenger seat he managed to get an extra 40hp and 60ftlbs and worked hard on the off boost fueling , this all occurred after Duncan Graham told me there was nothing else to come from the motor .
Duncan has previously mapped the car five times so I pulled him on it via text message and told him the facts .
1/ you didn't enable Knock control on the Link
2/you mapped it around a lambda sensor fault
3/you didn't do anything with the 4d fuel tables
4/you left 2 cylinders running lean.
Now ill tell you what he said in reply " Who is this?"
I said if you had stored my number you would know
He spent 4 hrs mapping my car with me sat in the passenger seat he managed to get an extra 40hp and 60ftlbs and worked hard on the off boost fueling , this all occurred after Duncan Graham told me there was nothing else to come from the motor .
Duncan has previously mapped the car five times so I pulled him on it via text message and told him the facts .
1/ you didn't enable Knock control on the Link
2/you mapped it around a lambda sensor fault
3/you didn't do anything with the 4d fuel tables
4/you left 2 cylinders running lean.
Now ill tell you what he said in reply " Who is this?"
I said if you had stored my number you would know
06 April 2019, 05:26 PM
#122
I’m afraid most of you chaps are missing the point. Assume you take your car to one of these clowns for a remap. It has a couple of mods but still on the standard map. They are supposed to copy that map onto their laptop and then get on mapping your car, charging you an arm and a leg in the process. So far, so good.
Then you go away and find that yout car is pretty much undriveable, stuttering, jerking and cutting out.
Wouldn’t it be reasonable to answer your attempts to contact them and if they can’t fix their mess, to at least flash your original map back and refund you?
Also on the subject of the map ROM library, you can always “dump” the current ROM on any Ecutek map on your ECU and with a bit of help unlock it and use it as your own. So, no it doesn’t take much effort or time at all to create a map library
Then you go away and find that yout car is pretty much undriveable, stuttering, jerking and cutting out.
Wouldn’t it be reasonable to answer your attempts to contact them and if they can’t fix their mess, to at least flash your original map back and refund you?
Also on the subject of the map ROM library, you can always “dump” the current ROM on any Ecutek map on your ECU and with a bit of help unlock it and use it as your own. So, no it doesn’t take much effort or time at all to create a map library
and refused me s refund as well
800 pound he was paid
and the car drove exactly the way you describe
06 April 2019, 05:29 PM
#123
I joined the linkg4 forum and sure enough I had someone respectable answer my questions and the bonus was he was only 30miles from me , I can usually get an answer from him in a couple of days with a apology for taking so long .
He spent 4 hrs mapping my car with me sat in the passenger seat he managed to get an extra 40hp and 60ftlbs and worked hard on the off boost fueling , this all occurred after Duncan Graham told me there was nothing else to come from the motor .
Duncan has previously mapped the car five times so I pulled him on it via text message and told him the facts .
1/ you didn't enable Knock control on the Link
2/you mapped it around a lambda sensor fault
3/you didn't do anything with the 4d fuel tables
4/you left 2 cylinders running lean.
Now ill tell you what he said in reply " Who is this?"
I said if you had stored my number you would know
He spent 4 hrs mapping my car with me sat in the passenger seat he managed to get an extra 40hp and 60ftlbs and worked hard on the off boost fueling , this all occurred after Duncan Graham told me there was nothing else to come from the motor .
Duncan has previously mapped the car five times so I pulled him on it via text message and told him the facts .
1/ you didn't enable Knock control on the Link
2/you mapped it around a lambda sensor fault
3/you didn't do anything with the 4d fuel tables
4/you left 2 cylinders running lean.
Now ill tell you what he said in reply " Who is this?"
I said if you had stored my number you would know
He isn’t called dynamite 🧨 Duncan for nothing
06 April 2019, 05:42 PM
#124
Yes but people still go to him.
I have to apologise I don't usually post on here as my post count will testify but ive been following this thread for acouple of days now and the rage has been slowly building …. and after a couple of Peroni's ……. im prepared to let it rip.
I have to apologise I don't usually post on here as my post count will testify but ive been following this thread for acouple of days now and the rage has been slowly building …. and after a couple of Peroni's ……. im prepared to let it rip.
06 April 2019, 06:20 PM
#125
Yes but people still go to him.
I have to apologise I don't usually post on here as my post count will testify but ive been following this thread for acouple of days now and the rage has been slowly building …. and after a couple of Peroni's ……. im prepared to let it rip.
I have to apologise I don't usually post on here as my post count will testify but ive been following this thread for acouple of days now and the rage has been slowly building …. and after a couple of Peroni's ……. im prepared to let it rip.
06 April 2019, 07:04 PM
#128
So to sum up you have dented his wallet somewhat .
A case like this would be very difficult to prove either way.
06 April 2019, 07:16 PM
#129
Scooby Regular
experiance comes from doing hundreds of cars with different mod specs, standard, faults etc and do you really think a diy'er can rival that knowledge?
If someone does then they should go have a conversation with Pat, you'll soon realise how small your knowledge actualy is.
06 April 2019, 07:17 PM
#130
Scooby Regular
06 April 2019, 08:01 PM
#131
I very much doubt even Pat will spend an hour or less on a fresh remap,despite all his many many non DIY'er file stored in his database.
Base maps are easy,the rest isn't......especially for a DIY'er who tunes for fun and to learn how his own car/S run.......#stilltweakingtwoyearslater PMSL
Base maps are easy,the rest isn't......especially for a DIY'er who tunes for fun and to learn how his own car/S run.......#stilltweakingtwoyearslater PMSL
06 April 2019, 08:10 PM
#132
Scooby Regular
I very much doubt even Pat will spend an hour or less on a fresh remap,despite all his many many non DIY'er file stored in his database.
Base maps are easy,the rest isn't......especially for a DIY'er who tunes for fun and to learn how his own car/S run.......#stilltweakingtwoyearslater PMSL
Base maps are easy,the rest isn't......especially for a DIY'er who tunes for fun and to learn how his own car/S run.......#stilltweakingtwoyearslater PMSL
06 April 2019, 08:12 PM
#133
Scooby Regular
I have been following your problems with Bob for sometime , I have no experience with him so I cant comment on him but I can say I wouldn't use him on the strength of your opinion and I gather other people have as well .
So to sum up you have dented his wallet somewhat .
A case like this would be very difficult to prove either way.
So to sum up you have dented his wallet somewhat .
A case like this would be very difficult to prove either way.
so you have no experience but are happy to listen to one keyboard warrior lol ,, bob was one of the sponsors for the forum I run and has mapped a 100s of its members without a problem and there was endless threads on there saying how happy people are,,,, so just because one person is good with a keyboard on here doesn't make it true ,,, bob has done me so many favours over the years I couldn't count them this includes mapping a couple of my cars for nothing when times got hard and helping my friends out based on me asking him for a favour ,, I couldn't see any other mappers doing the same,, bob maps cars he isnt there to fix them when they turn up with problems
Last edited by domino46; 06 April 2019 at 08:13 PM.
06 April 2019, 08:36 PM
#134
I cant understand how you drove the car away jerking and what not .It should be noticeable right away as soon as its mapped
If its developed over a few days then something was on its way out .
Thats tthe problem with the car trade .once you touch a car you own it.
If its developed over a few days then something was on its way out .
Thats tthe problem with the car trade .once you touch a car you own it.
06 April 2019, 08:36 PM
#135
so you have no experience but are happy to listen to one keyboard warrior lol ,, bob was one of the sponsors for the forum I run and has mapped a 100s of its members without a problem and there was endless threads on there saying how happy people are,,,, so just because one person is good with a keyboard on here doesn't make it true ,,, bob has done me so many favours over the years I couldn't count them this includes mapping a couple of my cars for nothing when times got hard and helping my friends out based on me asking him for a favour ,, I couldn't see any other mappers doing the same,, bob maps cars he isnt there to fix them when they turn up with problems
only what 6-8 weeks back
I know first hand because the man who owns the car contacted me on Facebook after reading my last thread on here
his car was down at chevron and had a filter decat and a bob the bomb special map on it
before you blame the mans car being riddled with faults it was a fresh import only weeks before he had it mapped
Last edited by RAGGY DOO; 06 April 2019 at 08:38 PM.
06 April 2019, 08:51 PM
#138
If my car was we troubled with so many faults
why did he not spot one single fault on the car
why didn’t he refuse to map it
surley if the car was so bad he would of seen something on the live data ?
no he took my 550 pound and sent me on my merry way
with an old wife’s tale of a sensor not working
why did he not spot one single fault on the car
why didn’t he refuse to map it
surley if the car was so bad he would of seen something on the live data ?
no he took my 550 pound and sent me on my merry way
with an old wife’s tale of a sensor not working
Last edited by RAGGY DOO; 06 April 2019 at 08:53 PM.
06 April 2019, 08:58 PM
#139
Scooby Regular
Also, what basic qualification/ degrees do these people have anyway? In engineering? Electronics maybe? Electrical systems? Computer systems? Nothing at all? Does anyone know of the qualifications of their favourite mapper other than “he has been mapping cars since the Victorian era”?
The real problem with the car trade is the sheer incompetence and total absence of honesty and accountability to be fair.
06 April 2019, 08:58 PM
#140
Tbh we will never know, if he was so crap then he have hubdreds of failed cars following him round .
Ive heard stories of people fitting turbos, down pipes then driving cars a few days/weeks then they map and blow and its the mappers fault.
Like that jdm hatch dont they use like 101 ron, if its been being ragged about for 3 weeks on asdas finest it will pop. But like i say we will never know
Ive heard stories of people fitting turbos, down pipes then driving cars a few days/weeks then they map and blow and its the mappers fault.
Like that jdm hatch dont they use like 101 ron, if its been being ragged about for 3 weeks on asdas finest it will pop. But like i say we will never know
06 April 2019, 09:05 PM
#143
Tbh we will never know, if he was so crap then he have hubdreds of failed cars following him round .
Ive heard stories of people fitting turbos, down pipes then driving cars a few days/weeks then they map and blow and its the mappers fault.
Like that jdm hatch dont they use like 101 ron, if its been being ragged about for 3 weeks on asdas finest it will pop. But like i say we will never know
Ive heard stories of people fitting turbos, down pipes then driving cars a few days/weeks then they map and blow and its the mappers fault.
Like that jdm hatch dont they use like 101 ron, if its been being ragged about for 3 weeks on asdas finest it will pop. But like i say we will never know
How do we know that there aren’t a lot of failures
people are terrified to speak up
And this site isn’t exactly buzzing
a lot of people don’t use the site
who do you use for mapping ?
06 April 2019, 09:13 PM
#147
Scooby Regular
When I was talking about “car trade”, I meant main dealers, independents, chains, outlets, part shops etc.
There is no accountability, no responsibility and no honesty whatsoever.
06 April 2019, 09:16 PM
#148
So, without any particular relevant qualifications (other than possibly a “seminar” by the software developer), what exactly is the difference between a self-called mapper and a DIY enthusiast?
When I was talking about “car trade”, I meant main dealers, independents, chains, outlets, part shops etc.
There is no accountability, no responsibility and no honesty whatsoever.
When I was talking about “car trade”, I meant main dealers, independents, chains, outlets, part shops etc.
There is no accountability, no responsibility and no honesty whatsoever.
most don’t even have a premises
into the car or on a plane and **** off when problems
arise
a lot of these jobs cash in the hand
if it were any other trade you’d have rouge traders involved
06 April 2019, 09:21 PM
#149
Scooby Regular
06 April 2019, 09:23 PM
#150
The degree in mapping was a genuine question, most mappers ive know have been self taught, and ive know guys from the ones who rock up and dl a generic map, to live mappers to the guys who write the software.
I use andrew carr for my subarus.
My vag stuff custom code
There has to be some accountability, but its where the line is drawn, we have customers come in from being rear ended and now their brakes squeel etc. If its directly related fair do but its not a free for all,
The jdm hatch im playing devils advocate, thats all. Why people would be scared to come forward id id ne know, now more than ever with the damage that could be done with social media, just look at the scooby clinic road test
I use andrew carr for my subarus.
My vag stuff custom code
There has to be some accountability, but its where the line is drawn, we have customers come in from being rear ended and now their brakes squeel etc. If its directly related fair do but its not a free for all,
The jdm hatch im playing devils advocate, thats all. Why people would be scared to come forward id id ne know, now more than ever with the damage that could be done with social media, just look at the scooby clinic road test