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Old 22 September 2018, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by hedgecutter
So you've thrown me there, as I'm about to buy Superpro 20f/22r or 22f/24r as the existing 20/22 combo suits the spec C. What would be the expectation going up a size?
All previously owned scooby's I've fully suspension fettled, 22 front (hard) and 24 rear (medium) has worked fine. Like i've said, I hate understeer, so set-up for zero of that ever. I like to have the car 'turn' or pivot right in the middle - under the driver's seat!

From all I read, rear roll resistance changes on the hatch has more of an effect. Both superpro and Whiteline recommend 22 F&R, so with that in mind, I decided to go with that. With the front on hard, and the rear on medium, the car was I would describe 'solid' in other words, all aspects were safe, predictable and grippy front and rear. I knew things weren't quite the way I wanted though and swapping the front hole to soft got everything into the sweet spot - see gush post above

It all depends on what you're after. This is the nice thing about adjustable bars. Myself, I would say (with OE dampers/springs) 22 f&r bars should cover all tastes - you could dial in under or over steer, or somwhere in between

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Do let us know how you get on - you too Matty
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I`m fitting this kit now, but have found that the front bar is 5cm shorter than the old one that it is replacing; this makes the end links lean over, instead of being vertical.
Should I use some washers to line it up?
Overall, I`m not impressed with W.hiteline; poor instructions, badly printed, endlinks of different stiffness, and a part missing from a steering rack bush pack.
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sounds like you potentially have the wrong bar??

would personally get back in touch with the supplier.......
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Originally Posted by stockcar
sounds like you potentially have the wrong bar??

would personally get back in touch with the supplier.......
Yep, wrong bar, was BSF30Z, should be BSF39Z. But it was part of a kit, BSK011. On top of the bush extraction bolt missing from the rack kit ( everything else was there, plus an extra bush steel tube ) that`s 75% of parts incorrect so far. Should of phoned that north eastern bloke who used to advertise here, and it would`nt have happened!!
My Land`s End to Edinburgh trip starts Thursday, running out of time
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yes always best to deal with people in the know.........
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I ordered the wrong kit, got confused with too many options!
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Originally Posted by hedgecutter
I ordered the wrong kit, got confused with too many options!
you numpty
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As an update, I replaced my old front 23mm bar with a Superpro 22mm adjustable today, adjusted to hard (22.5), and moved the rear WL to soft. On a limited drive home, the rear felt more compliant, not quite so hard and jumpy in normal use ( The STI rear kit and spec c stiffer springs already reduced roll rates) The Whiteline finish does`nt compete with the Superpro, which is supplied with 23mm bushes, because of the coating. I should have painted the WL but did`nt have time, but they just peel.
All the STI parts are on now; rear flexible support R, rear lateral link kit, front flexible upper and lower braces, front chassis support kit. Voids filled at rear. Time for an alignment!
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FFS HG - you still haven't got yourself an alignment done?

Cornwall - Scotland 2K mile trip, loads of suspension kit fitted, unhappy with handling...

Overdue?

I'd love to see the readings
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Originally Posted by bonesetter
FFS HG - you still haven't got yourself an alignment done?

Cornwall - Scotland 2K mile trip, loads of suspension kit fitted, unhappy with handling...

Overdue?

I'd love to see the readings
I did have an alignment in Scotland, but it wasn't satisfactory, mainly because I had fitted everything on an uneven surface before I left, and they spent time sorting that instead. I found a very fussy guy for alignment down here, Steven Hatton motorsport, but he's still a fair way away
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Originally Posted by hedgecutter
I did have an alignment in Scotland, but it wasn't satisfactory, mainly because I had fitted everything on an uneven surface before I left, and they spent time sorting that instead. I found a very fussy guy for alignment down here, Steven Hatton motorsport, but he's still a fair way away
Ah yes, i had forgotten about the Scottish tinkering...

I know how frustrating it can be when you you're struggling to get your car's handling synergised, I hope you soon do - you'll definitely know when it is

Let's face it, your base car, with all the mods should be one of the best handling scoobs around

If you can't, I'll make you an offer on the motor
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Originally Posted by bonesetter
Ah yes, i had forgotten about the Scottish tinkering...

I know how frustrating it can be when you you're struggling to get your car's handling synergised, I hope you soon do - you'll definitely know when it is

Let's face it, your base car, with all the mods should be one of the best handling scoobs around

If you can't, I'll make you an offer on the motor
To be honest, it was perfect out of the box. Another big input is the fact that the Michelin super sports are down to the indicators after 26 000 miles, moving into winter. I got a fresh set on black friday, 105 squid a corner, so stuck with the devil I know! Got winters to put on, but they strangle the handling.
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Originally Posted by hedgecutter
To be honest, it was perfect out of the box. Another big input is the fact that the Michelin super sports are down to the indicators after 26 000 miles, moving into winter. I got a fresh set on black friday, 105 squid a corner, so stuck with the devil I know! Got winters to put on, but they strangle the handling.
Hmmm... I'm not sure anything's quite perfect out of the box - especially Impreza handling One has to make it their own

26,000 miles on a set of tyres (albeit 'longer lasting' Michelins). You'd be a good chap to buy a car off. You sure you not thinking of selling (and buying that R205)

(I got 4,000 miles from a set of Bridgestone S001's on my Forester)
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Did you say that you viewed the grey r205 at Cheshire performance? Mine's a keeper now!
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Originally Posted by hedgecutter
Did you say that you viewed the grey r205 at Cheshire performance? Mine's a keeper now!


No, with all I heard about Cheshire Performance I decided to keep away


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interesting read guys thanks
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Finally sorted!
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So which front/rear settings would you go for after trying the different ones??
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Originally Posted by Adw330s
So which front/rear settings would you go for after trying the different ones??
I've stuck with Peter Cambridge's recommendations, which are max camber on the front, tiny fraction of toe in front and rear. More importantly, the values are virtually equal on each side. The previous alignment had pulled the toe out of line as he tried to adjust the camber.
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Actually, there is no toe there at all, upon looking properly. I prefer a little toe in at front as it stops the steering feeling so light
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