A bit of a quick calc. it cost me £3.20 for 150 miles on cheap overnight electricity. Around equivalent to 125miles per gallon

So for 10k per annum mileage for a ICE vehicle cost around £1500-1600 per annum

Whilst it only cost £ 213 for an electric for 10k/year.

 

From £63,000 5 seater SUV

0-60 4.5 Secs

90kw battery

nearly 300 range(will be more like 235 miles real life)
wait for EPA mileage.

 

Wonder what the depreciation is like...

Our customer with the Tesla Model S was offered £35k against a new one!!

 

That sort of makes the mpg , slightly superfluous

or am i wrong

 

It's only done 15k miles. It's prestine too.

I'm hoping the dealership was trying to mug him off.

 

Used prices from Tesla are very high.

 

Trade-ins at the main dealers clearly aren't!

 

Taking the **** then. I once tried to sell back my vehicle to main dealer after 1 year, they offered 10K less than market value, it was worth £20K at the time. They must of thought I was desperate. Sold elsewhere for market value

 

To right Andy..stealers will screw you to the wall.

Went with the inlaws to dealers as they were trading in there car, sat and watched salesman very skillfully bleed off as much £ as poss ,whist adding £ the new car. pure evil scumbags, how do they s[eep at night?.

 

Wife has now made two 200 + mile journeys. One stop to rapid 50kw charge, it takes 40 mins. She grabs coffee and lunch to return to car which as virtually finished.

With the ever growing charging network, which should start to overtake ICE stations later this year. long journeys not a problem for EV

 

Youd need be an executive/french type enjoy that sort lunchbreak ?

 

Lunch? Break? Ha. What a novel concept.

 

Starting to sound like very relaxing life style, slowing us all down , walk about a bit, take time out and enjoy the world, whats not to like.

peace man.....

 

with no vehicular pollution, we can but hope it doesnt take too long

 

Have people commented yet on clean air in your village yet ??

 

The concern is the batteries, have you bought the vehicle or is it (or the batteries) on lease?

One would have to take into account the whole end-to-end CO2 and pollution (from when the energy is produced at source) to compare how an electric car fairs against one with ICE.

Whether we like it or not though that's where things seem to go medium term.

Perhaps after 20 years things will change and a "new" fuel hydrogen will be discovered

I had a Tesla X 100D for a while and liked it. You can charge 50% of the battery in 45 mins or so using a supercharger.

Would I pay £150k (that's what it costs with the options it had) for it? Not unless I had 1m in the bank.

 

No,but when I arrived home the other day there was a dog walker, just a little up from our house. The near silent approach of our car didn't disturb their peaceful walk in the middle of the road.

 

Bought the car. Batteries have unlimited 8 year warranty. By then newer tech will have further improved batteries life, recycling and manufacturing .

This car is going as the '19 model has 50% bigger battery and nearly 50% more powerful motor. Range will go upto 225miles. The mileage we do mostly, this model is more than capable, but with a option to upgrade I will take it.

 

When is that model due out? My lease will end in early 2019...

 

​​​​​​The leak from Nissan suggests early '19 No specific date. Just a case of getting more information as the year rolls on
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How much will you lose on the trade in though

 

Who cares? Frankly probably a **** load, but it's a choice we can make and afford. Very pleased to get rid of our Honda diesel and move over to EV for most of our journeys. I averaged over a 100empg regularly in my hybrid XC90, the Leaf easily 125empg.

 

No point talking about savings in daily usage when one looses $h** loads by changing vehicle; the comment isn't meant for andy97 but any buyer that comments on the same, my colleague was trying to convince me that spending £6k (at least) on top of his car (nothing wrong with it just fancies a change) is worth it and then complaining about the fact his car costs him £80-100 per year more on road tax compared with a new one. The maths don't add up

 

Going EV was for me about getting rid of our diesel, and being less emissions from our vehicles. Cost didn't factor first. I even considered the Tesla X and may even go for one, but the experiment is the Leaf. Early results from a relative budget EV, is that they make perfect sense for us doing on average 50-100 miles in total a day . This leaf is no slouch either plus all the safety kit comes loaded A. great EV

 

indeed its the

whole end-to-end CO2 and pollution (from when the energy is produced at source) to compare how an electric car fairs against one with ICE.

And the environmental impact on 3rd world countries pulling out the battery ingredients

but never mind eh , thats a long way from here

 

What about the untold damage of oil production, exploration? I bet you own a mobile phone, laptop and other lithium powered devices.

Don't try to compartmentalize the environmental damage for human transport. EV have less end emissions, it's not perfect but it's a start to reduce ever increasing pollution and co2

You're argument comes across as ever so slightly envious.

 

100Kw Tesla has already chucked out 15 tons Co2 before the ignition has ever been turned on - thats 8 years worth of petrol car use

assuming its not been charged straight off your solar panel

 

For thorough research, pop off and find how co2 it takes to build oil rigs then fuel it to scavange oil, refine it to petrol, transport it from oil field to refineries, the load up huge tankers and constantly drive it around the country of each and every country, not to mention the huge sea tankers transporting millions of barrels of the sticky stuff. O then all the expense of constructing Petrol stations.

let me know when you made the comparison

 

I can see the transporting of the stuff around could be saved, but ultimately it's energy in energy out
Other savings will have to be battery developments , more renewables But also basically taxing non ev off the road.

Who's going to pay for road upkeep

 

Certainly won't be me doing so few miles and don't pay VED on my cars

Obviously the most polluting vehicles should pay the most

Price those f**kers off the road