Electric cars
03 March 2018, 05:04 PM
#91
A bit of a quick calc. it cost me £3.20 for 150 miles on cheap overnight electricity. Around equivalent to 125miles per gallon
So for 10k per annum mileage for a ICE vehicle cost around £1500-1600 per annum
Whilst it only cost £ 213 for an electric for 10k/year.
So for 10k per annum mileage for a ICE vehicle cost around £1500-1600 per annum
Whilst it only cost £ 213 for an electric for 10k/year.
06 March 2018, 07:53 AM
#99
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To right Andy..stealers will screw you to the wall.
Went with the inlaws to dealers as they were trading in there car, sat and watched salesman very skillfully bleed off as much £ as poss ,whist adding £ the new car. pure evil scumbags, how do they s[eep at night?.
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07 March 2018, 07:52 AM
#100
Wife has now made two 200 + mile journeys. One stop to rapid 50kw charge, it takes 40 mins. She grabs coffee and lunch to return to car which as virtually finished.
With the ever growing charging network, which should start to overtake ICE stations later this year. long journeys not a problem for EV
With the ever growing charging network, which should start to overtake ICE stations later this year. long journeys not a problem for EV
07 March 2018, 10:04 AM
#103
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Wife has now made two 200 + mile journeys. One stop to rapid 50kw charge, it takes 40 mins. She grabs coffee and lunch to return to car which as virtually finished.
With the ever growing charging network, which should start to overtake ICE stations later this year. long journeys not a problem for EV
With the ever growing charging network, which should start to overtake ICE stations later this year. long journeys not a problem for EV
peace man.....
07 March 2018, 01:59 PM
#106
One would have to take into account the whole end-to-end CO2 and pollution (from when the energy is produced at source) to compare how an electric car fairs against one with ICE.
Whether we like it or not though that's where things seem to go medium term.
Perhaps after 20 years things will change and a "new" fuel hydrogen will be discovered
I had a Tesla X 100D for a while and liked it. You can charge 50% of the battery in 45 mins or so using a supercharger.
Would I pay £150k (that's what it costs with the options it had) for it? Not unless I had 1m in the bank.
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07 March 2018, 02:37 PM
#108
The concern is the batteries, have you bought the vehicle or is it (or the batteries) on lease?
One would have to take into account the whole end-to-end CO2 and pollution (from when the energy is produced at source) to compare how an electric car fairs against one with ICE.
Whether we like it or not though that's where things seem to go medium term.
Perhaps after 20 years things will change and a "new" fuel hydrogen will be discovered
I had a Tesla X 100D for a while and liked it. You can charge 50% of the battery in 45 mins or so using a supercharger.
Would I pay £150k (that's what it costs with the options it had) for it? Not unless I had 1m in the bank.
One would have to take into account the whole end-to-end CO2 and pollution (from when the energy is produced at source) to compare how an electric car fairs against one with ICE.
Whether we like it or not though that's where things seem to go medium term.
Perhaps after 20 years things will change and a "new" fuel hydrogen will be discovered
I had a Tesla X 100D for a while and liked it. You can charge 50% of the battery in 45 mins or so using a supercharger.
Would I pay £150k (that's what it costs with the options it had) for it? Not unless I had 1m in the bank.
This car is going as the '19 model has 50% bigger battery and nearly 50% more powerful motor. Range will go upto 225miles. The mileage we do mostly, this model is more than capable, but with a option to upgrade I will take it.
07 March 2018, 02:55 PM
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07 March 2018, 07:31 PM
#112
Who cares? Frankly probably a **** load, but it's a choice we can make and afford. Very pleased to get rid of our Honda diesel and move over to EV for most of our journeys. I averaged over a 100empg regularly in my hybrid XC90, the Leaf easily 125empg.
07 March 2018, 08:40 PM
#113
No point talking about savings in daily usage when one looses $h** loads by changing vehicle; the comment isn't meant for andy97 but any buyer that comments on the same, my colleague was trying to convince me that spending £6k (at least) on top of his car (nothing wrong with it just fancies a change) is worth it and then complaining about the fact his car costs him £80-100 per year more on road tax compared with a new one. The maths don't add up
07 March 2018, 09:03 PM
#114
Going EV was for me about getting rid of our diesel, and being less emissions from our vehicles. Cost didn't factor first. I even considered the Tesla X and may even go for one, but the experiment is the Leaf. Early results from a relative budget EV, is that they make perfect sense for us doing on average 50-100 miles in total a day . This leaf is no slouch either plus all the safety kit comes loaded A. great EV
07 March 2018, 09:08 PM
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indeed its the
whole end-to-end CO2 and pollution (from when the energy is produced at source) to compare how an electric car fairs against one with ICE.
And the environmental impact on 3rd world countries pulling out the battery ingredients
but never mind eh , thats a long way from here
whole end-to-end CO2 and pollution (from when the energy is produced at source) to compare how an electric car fairs against one with ICE.
And the environmental impact on 3rd world countries pulling out the battery ingredients
but never mind eh , thats a long way from here
07 March 2018, 10:42 PM
#116
indeed its the
whole end-to-end CO2 and pollution (from when the energy is produced at source) to compare how an electric car fairs against one with ICE.
And the environmental impact on 3rd world countries pulling out the battery ingredients
but never mind eh , thats a long way from here
whole end-to-end CO2 and pollution (from when the energy is produced at source) to compare how an electric car fairs against one with ICE.
And the environmental impact on 3rd world countries pulling out the battery ingredients
but never mind eh , thats a long way from here
Don't try to compartmentalize the environmental damage for human transport. EV have less end emissions, it's not perfect but it's a start to reduce ever increasing pollution and co2
You're argument comes across as ever so slightly envious.
07 March 2018, 10:53 PM
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100Kw Tesla has already chucked out 15 tons Co2 before the ignition has ever been turned on - thats 8 years worth of petrol car use
assuming its not been charged straight off your solar panel
assuming its not been charged straight off your solar panel
08 March 2018, 07:27 AM
#118
let me know when you made the comparison
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08 March 2018, 07:53 AM
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I can see the transporting of the stuff around could be saved, but ultimately it's energy in energy out
Other savings will have to be battery developments , more renewables But also basically taxing non ev off the road.
Who's going to pay for road upkeep
Other savings will have to be battery developments , more renewables But also basically taxing non ev off the road.
Who's going to pay for road upkeep
