Yeah right

This morning was the time where the Nissan kicked on pre journey cabin heating, toasty seats, steering wheel and cabin. All windows mirrors defrosted.

Unlike the numerous ICE cars peering out of foggy windscreens

Then I counted 15 Teslas in town, the most so far. Populist doing well

 

Tesla's new battery and pack design

 

The pre-EU5 diesel’s forte was that many were fitted with Webasto heaters. Of which you can buy a remote kit to fire it up from a key fob or timer from the warmth of your own home. So you get to a warm defrosted car and also a pre-heated engine.

These day I have to make do with a 80amp electric assist element (approx 1000watts) in the heater box which I had to fit myself as VW only factory fit them on diesels. Takes about 20seconds at 1500rpm to start blowing warm (output is regulated by alternator load, so it drops to approx half power at idle to stop battery discharge). £30 well spent.

Of course I could go down the “plug in” route and fit a mains powered block heater. I already have the secondary electric coolant pump fitted so shouldn’t to too hard to retro fit. More tricky will be coding the climate control to turn on the interior fan; will need to trick it into thinking a Webasto telestart is fitted. That said, I’m clearing out the garage, so I could just park the car in the garage instead

 

Can’t really see how 5 minutes additional waiting for it to warm up is really here nor there on a 160 mile round trip !

 

Its much a safety issue aswell as luxury benefit. I see so many vehicles with obscured windows with heavy misting, nit just the windscreen. When I was in town yesterday, I was sat for a few minutes watching this driver parked in drive idling away, wiping their screen covered in sheet ice, doing nothing to clear the ice off. You could hardly see the driver due to the iced windows. Has I drove away I spotted them setoff on the road, totally reckless.

In my part of the country, 5 mins, I can be 4 miles down the road.

 

I was talking to a student who did some research as part of his degree who told me that for the battery production of an electric vehicle more CO2 is emitted than for the whole lifetime of a diesel car. This takes into account the whole lifecycle process of making the battery including the mining to extract the minerals that the batteries have.
Ditto, this doesn't take into account NOX but still puts some things into perspective.

 

Tesla's first Giga China shipment arrives in Europe followed by USA shipment in Zeebrugge. It wont be too long before Giga Europe will be shipping around the world to meet demand

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-mic-model-3-arrives-in-europe/

 

Andy conveniently likes to ignore the environmental damage from the manufacture of his batteries and similarly their scrapping when that time comes. He only cares about the bragging rights that he has zero emissions on the road.

In fairness, its not completely true that an EV will never recover the manufacturing CO2 deficit compared to diesel/petrol vehicles, but how long it takes depends greatly on the amount of miles driven and the type of vehicle. The bigger and heavier (with more batteries) the EV, then the longer it will take to be greener than a comparable diesel/petrol car. SUV's will probably never recover the battery CO2 before the batteries die. Large cars such as the Tesla Model S will typically take around 5 years. Small cars such as a Smart can be CO2 positive compared to a petrol/diesel in around 2 years. Given an average battery life of around 7 years, that means anything other than the smallest of EVs has very little positive CO2 saving over petrol/diesel cars. When you factor in other non-CO2 environmental damage from the battery production and disposal (mineral mining, lithium extraction, chemical production/disposal), then really only the Smart sized EVs make any positive environmental contribution compared to petrol/diesel.

 

Pretty much everyone in the industry knows EV is a short-term solution to a long-term problem. It is better than nothing but it is not the silver bullet a lot of people argue

 

EV are for now the best option to reduce pollution in towns, cities and suburbia. Until something better comes along, there are few options- other than stopping driving altogether. Now there's an idea

 

Want to stop it? Easy. Get everyone inn the Western World to move to vegetarian/vegan diet. That will drastically reduce pollution and a lot more of the worlds problems.

 

Looking forward to Blade runner 2049

 

Says the man who drives 160 miles to drop his kids at school

I fully agree to running small EVs in cities, which I've said all along! But big EVs make no sense!

 

That's why I got into EVs once they had the range for my needs. Far greenest option for our lifestyle, also anyone else who can afford to fund a lease. 95% all new cars are leased

 

And therein lies the problem! To fix global warming we don't need EVs, we need lifestyle changes!

 

Wowsers, 160 mile school commute. That's over 30k a year, just for school commute.
Given the average mileage of 10k a year (yes it was going up, but covid and amount of people that will now work from home, it'll go down again) that is three times the amount in car tyres (those black round things that are not the most environmentally friendly things to produce, or source the materials for in the first place) and, given the not insignificant extra weight an ev has over a normal car, probably 5 times the amount of road wear than the average motorist.

Bet your kids love the 3-4hour a day commute!

 

43 min journey from door to door both ways.

Ive only had one tyre set in 50,000 miles, just changed. I would have probably got 55k but winter weather not recommended on nearly worn out tyres.

It takes less time than I used to travel into Leeds with a 4 mile journey.

 

What ?

80 miles in 43 minutes ?

not making any sense at all

 

If your 80 mile commute takes 43 minutes that is some going. If it took an hour, that would be an average speed of 128km/h, which is near as dammit the same speed recorded for the fastest ever world rally, recorded by Kris Meeke in Finland 2016. Your real name isn't Sebastien Loeb is it?

 

43 mins there and 43 back virtually all NSL roads

I could take a shorter route via lots of tiny villages for similar time, recently too many road work's, I sometimes return home that way if I just want to pootle.

 

Does it occur to (British) vegans that some British farmland used for grazing is not suitable for growing crops? And if intensively farmed for crops, how does it recover if its constantly ploughed and resown? Rather than rotated for free grazing.

Of course a less meat intensive diet is favoured on produce provided within the country we live in, sustained by the land it is raised and/or grown. But meat free? Nope. Not unless you want to build houses on that land and import produce from overseas. Maybe clear some more rain forests to feed that inflating population occupying all those extra houses sprouting up in greenfield sites.

 

Ev’s clearly driven by the semi senile / battery sniffing individuals

can’t count for toffee !

 

Due to intensive farming, it is alleged that there are as little as 60 season's remaining before soils become so degraded.

 

https://www.newscientist.com/article...ust-a-fantasy/

 

Soil will always recover. Eventually. You can napalm it with the most toxic chemicals that kills all micro-organisms and nutrients within the soil and eventually it will come back. But the worse it is the longer it will take. If the land is so bad that not even grass will grow, you won’t be able graze animals that in turn return what they eat back to the land if managed in a proper manner.

Cases like open cast mining for rare metals has created toxic ground water that can take centuries to disperse, land over farmed be it crops or purely intensified grazing turns into nothing but sand that washes away or floods from over compaction. Forest clearing removes biodiversity that take s centuries to recover. The key is balance; Land can only feed limited number of be people. Badly managed will feed less, better managed feeds more, but either way there will be a saturation point where the population exceeds what it can provide.

Eating imported asparagus grown in a cleared forest in Peru is not solving anything it’s just makes the problem someone else’s.

 

A bit like the whole we are using UK landfills significantly less. How are you doing it? Sending it to poorer countries. Technically we are sending less to the UK landfills which is what your requirement was Mr Government you didn't say we couldn't send it to a non UK landfill.

You got me there laddy, here have a fat bonus for your shareholders and extra funding but give it to your shareholders. Let Mark know I'll see him for Golf tomorrow - British Government probably

I'm sure I've shared this before about population increases before but its worth a look and they do have their sources included.

 

Lifestock eat fishmeal ,caught by massive trawlers off west coast africa - which would otherwise be feeding the local population!

they also produce quantities of greenhouse gases and ..... ****

knew dutch bloke for time who had to Give up his farm on account not being economical to get rid of it

 

so you are averaging around 100mph in the morning when children are going to school, and again in the afternoon when kids are returning from school, in a vehicle that has children in it?

 

Never mind

 

No he's doing an 80 mile round trip in 86 minutes so averaging 55.8 mph