If you're not interested, trott off, they're plenty of other threads for you to post in

 

all torque - meangless

Hes got x 2.5 range !

 

Range is only relevant if I need to go further than the capability of the vehicle. My Nissan is a commuter car. It has performance, comfort, features for my requirements. 100-120 miles per day is our requirements.

 

So youre a bit faster to skool on a technicality - aernt you a bit old for that kind thing !

iv read its bit low rent inside including non ajustable steering , perched up high

 

Depends on the model. Ours is limited first edition with all the bells and whistles (auto steering, adaptive cruise, heated seats front and rear, heated steering wheel, nav and 360 cameras, except leather) We didn't want leather having dogs.

Being really old we need high level entrance

 

Nissan Leaf has 320-340NM Torque!
According to my dyno results, my Scoob is pulling more than that from 2500rpm, so I wouldn't even need to drop a gear and spool up the turbo to p1ss on a Leaf!
But well done you proving you can out accelerate a big Merc who most probably wasn't aware of your existence!

 

I wasn't comparing your Subaru. There are high performance vehicles with more torque. I was highlighting the Nissan's performance over the normal mainstream vehicles.

I think he was fully aware after out pacing him from 50-70mph

Show us your torque curve. Most turbos Impreza didn't start making decent torque under 3000 rpm peaking at around 4000 rpm

 

If he was aware, he probably didn't give a ....!

For me, peak torque is 563.7NM @ 3380rpm.
Yes, EVs have much broader Torque curves, but I've still got more than enough torque and power to pull my 1580kg Scooby up a really steep hill as if it were flat plus I get the additional fun of changing gear to an awesome soundtrack!

 

I would probably agree, apart from him blasting by, well in excess of the speed limit once I toyed with him

 

Don’t look good


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.b...iness-54538648

 

Honda E, funky urban EV, but with some flaws, price being the biggest one. Again a legacy company screwing its future for excessive profit.

Carwow- fair assessment

 

Will the AA arrive with a long lead if you just happen to run out of leccy ??


they must be even harder to push than a normal car

 

Its an urban vehicle. Yes, I understand most of the roadside assistant agencies have onboard charging systems available

My daughter borrowed our Leaf a while ago to help move properties in London. They were gobsmacked how little energy the Leaf used in nose to tail slow traffic. Ev is perfect for slow inner citiy/town commutes- better still cycle

 

Mazda are releasing their EV mini SUV. MX30

I agree with Robert Llewellyn from fully charged. The Mazda is a nice looking vehicle, but misses the spot, with too little rear legroom and a small range. Mazda's argument it takes less time for offsetting CO2. I have mentioned before the fossil fuel industry doesn't add all the C02 production costs in bringing fossil fuels to the retail outlet, never mind the release of pollutants whilst driving.

Mazda would have been better of making something on the lines the new Honda E if they were using the flimsy CO2 argument.

https://fullycharged.show/episodes/m...sized-battery/


Enjoy

 

Researchers say EVs should cost no more the ICE by 2024.

It should be happening more quickly. Many legacy manufacturers gripping onto ICE far too long

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...models-by-2024

 

You Can be sure your road fund tax will come into being then soon ..!

To pay for charging infrastructure , never mind the actual roads upkeep

 

Been some interesting news in Hydrogen in the last weeks.

A study in the US stated that Hydrogen cars are already cheaper to own/run compared to EVs from anything the size of an SUV upwards and are predicted to be cheaper than any EV by 2030. There is a new fuel cell alliance formed in the US to improve fuel cell development and reduce production costs, currently with the focus on large vehicles and industrial applications.

Another important breakthrough in Germany is a huge efficiency improvement in converting Hydrogen to Methanol and then back to Hydrogen. This means that Hydrogen can now be efficiently transported as Methanol and then easily converted back to Hydrogen at the point of distribution.

The days of BEVs are numbered, Hydrogen is coming quickly! Although, no doubt the UK government will miss the boat as usual and fail to invest in the future!

 

Its all research nothing other than pilot projects. Its takes 40kWatts of energy to make on 1kg of liquid hydrogen. That's around £5-6 per kg to manufacture. This doesn't include transportation costs.

Then where is the cost analysis of getting enough methane? Environmental impact of sourcing methame?

Hydrogen battery cars will come but like I found out its a long way off, when producing 95% of Hydrogen comes from Steam Methane Reforming.

Directly using fossil fuels to make a clean fuel is not environmental favourable.

Then there is infrastructure to install.

Electric is laid to virtually every property already.

I expect 10 years minimum for hydrogen to make any inroads, by which time virtually all new vehicles will be BEV. Then there will be another 10 years for those with electric cars to consider hydrogen.

Its coming but not yet

 

Tesla risking the lives of its customers again!

https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/22/...reaction-video

What they have achieved is impressive, but the risks they are taking with peoples lives in not acceptable!

 

The powers that be seem intent on phasing our natural gas for domestic heating and cooking. Despite this gas infrastructure owners are replacing and upgrading old gas pipelines. Why upgrade/update it?

This suggests that there is a future use, be it for hydrogen or methane. Fancy that..the infrastructure is already there to most homes it’s too convenient to ignore.

Of course new builds won’t have it; They’ll use any excuse to cut building costs; So no gas. No fibre to the premises. Single phase 80amp power supply. I pity the fools who buy these houses.

 

It is still beta for FSD
Tesla's safety record currently is far superior per million miles than other manufacturers Q1 2020...

In the 1st quarter, we registered one accident for every 4.68 million miles driven in which drivers had Autopilot engaged. For those driving without Autopilot but with our active safety features, we registered one accident for every 1.99 million miles driven. For those driving without Autopilot and without our active safety features, we registered one accident for every 1.42 million miles driven. By comparison, NHTSA’s most recent data shows that in the United States there is an automobile crash every 479,000 miles

https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/VehicleSafetyReport

 

You can't compare crashes caused by human failure with crashes caused by vehicle malfunction! The customers should never be used as beta testers, be it a limited pilot group or a full rollout!

 

These will have been invited and asked if they're willing to participate.

Without real testing, progress cannot be made. A bit like drug clinical trials moving onto humans for assessment.

 

Would you happily fly in an aeroplane knowing that the systems had not been fully tested by the manufacturer with certified test pilots but instead the testing was palmed off on pilots of customer airlines with no qualification or inside knowledge of the systems?

The automotive industry has strict guidelines for developing automotive systems and Tesla are simply not following them. In the aviation industry, that thankfully wouldn't be possible as aircraft must be certified for flight. The automotive industry is self regulating which is why Tesla can get away with breaking the rules. Self regulation was fine when cars only had simple systems such as the ECU, ABS or traction control where failures don't lead to crashes, but as vehicle systems start taking on more safety critical features such as steering and braking by wire, adaptive cruise control and ultimately self driving features, then self regulation is no longer appropriate and a proper certification authority is needed to ensure systems are safe for use on public roads.

 

Probably that's why the small number of expert, carefully selected drivers is taking place in the USA.

Others have conducted tests in Europe, Volvo, in London did driverless testing with drivers as safety backup. I don't know what came of that.

Its only headlines because it's Tesla. Many others are conducting driverless testing

 

In some cases I think driverless maybe a good idea.....

 

And judging by Russian dash cam footage, I think really the Beta testing should be done over there to see how it can cope with accident avoidance when subjected to a crash for cash pedestrian jumping in front of you whilst swerving round a Lada Niva driving the wrong way whilst approaching a junction that has a out of control 8X4 tipper truck approaching from a side road that’s clearly not going stop at the red light.

 

Man that tesla 3 is munter from the rear

 

 

At least they appear to be just plain stupid.

What riled me once was the w@nker that pulled up to a petrol pump in front of me in a tesla so he could go in and do some shopping, leaving the ice driving cavemen waiting for him to get out of the way, because the **** couldn't pull up in an empty space 10 yards away.