Police-detest them
20 September 2017, 10:03 AM
#181
When I arrived at the station I was only in a cell for 15mins before my mam arrived, she made me apologize, I was given a reprimand and on my way. I wasn't asked if I plead guilty.
My mam could not believe my side of the event until my mates mam told her.
The section 59 was pretty much irrelevant to me as I don't part take in antisocial dick head activities in public places, such as illegal off road or on road riding/driving.
It was the fact that they were out looking to catch someone, nobody about, saw my quad parked and thought we'll go and try to criminalise him even though technically he's done nothing wrong.
My mam could not believe my side of the event until my mates mam told her.
The section 59 was pretty much irrelevant to me as I don't part take in antisocial dick head activities in public places, such as illegal off road or on road riding/driving.
It was the fact that they were out looking to catch someone, nobody about, saw my quad parked and thought we'll go and try to criminalise him even though technically he's done nothing wrong.
The section 59 - what was written on the form, was it that they had seen it being driven, or a member of the public had reported it being driven? Again, I think you sign this form to accept this version of events and accept that a 59 is issued against you or the quad. Otherwise, you can contest it.
What I don't understand is if people are saying police and are lazy, then surly the lazy thing to do would be to just walk past it.
20 September 2017, 10:21 AM
#182
What I mean by giving them respect is,
If i hot pulled over for a random check, and casually used foul language I would be warned and if I used it again and again I'd be arested. Which is fine.
If a known criminal known for violence, drug dealer cocky ***** etc who is on first name terms with the officer gets pulled over and starts shouting and swearing and playing the victim..... Nothing, maybe a warning.
it's all just oh calm down mate blah blah blah.
I think people should be treated equal
Not saying this is how you do business but I've seen it a lot
If i hot pulled over for a random check, and casually used foul language I would be warned and if I used it again and again I'd be arested. Which is fine.
If a known criminal known for violence, drug dealer cocky ***** etc who is on first name terms with the officer gets pulled over and starts shouting and swearing and playing the victim..... Nothing, maybe a warning.
it's all just oh calm down mate blah blah blah.
I think people should be treated equal
Not saying this is how you do business but I've seen it a lot
So, the officer that you have seen letting the 'known criminal' get away with swearing could be the kind of person that will allow all people to swear in a similar manner to a certain point. So he will be treating them equal. Unless of course you have seen the officer deal with a number of similar incidents in different ways to different people.
There is no offence of 'swearing' the nearest offence is S5 POA, but it has to be proven that it will have caused harassment, alarm, distress. Therefore each incident will have to be taken on its own merits. So, using colourful language whilst in the town on a Saturday night may not contravene S5 as compared to doing the same outside a school at 0930 on Monday morning.
20 September 2017, 11:19 AM
#183
It will mean two things:
1. Local people will do the jobs, as they did before the Po's arrived.
2. Local farmers and gangmasters will once again have to pay proper wages.
And please.....you are making yourself look silly. NO-ONE is saying no migrants.
we are saying CONTROLLED migration.
So oif we need Po's, we'll let a few in
1. Local people will do the jobs, as they did before the Po's arrived.
2. Local farmers and gangmasters will once again have to pay proper wages.
And please.....you are making yourself look silly. NO-ONE is saying no migrants.
we are saying CONTROLLED migration.
So oif we need Po's, we'll let a few in
01 February 2018, 09:18 AM
#190
All seems very odd - and also it only matters if you can prove non consent at the point that intercourse took place.
Oh well - I can see us seizing all phones, ipads, laptops etc from all suspects, victim and witnesses for all cases now - just in case.
So next time you want to report a crime, don't be surprised if we go through your phone messages and emails - just in case.
01 February 2018, 12:34 PM
#192
One text in 40,000 that has been overlooked. In any event it was submitted to the court as unused material for the exact purpose for the defence to analyse it - otherwise how did the defence barrister get hold of the prosecution victim's phone messages? And if they used the defendants phone, then why didn't the defendant bring this up in the investigation?
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crim...-a3753781.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8184916.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-42399802
01 February 2018, 01:57 PM
#193
Which ones in high places - Stuart Hall, Max Clifford.......?
01 February 2018, 02:07 PM
#194
And don't lower your yourself to being abusive towards me as you sound uneducated.
01 February 2018, 02:39 PM
#195
So you are saying it was deliberate? If that was the case why was her phone not deleted after the 'cherry picked' messages were disclosed. And how did the defence get hold of the these messages if it was not disclosed as unused material?
And don't lower your yourself to being abusive towards me as you sound uneducated.
And don't lower your yourself to being abusive towards me as you sound uneducated.
The entire download of messages from the phone was not passed to the defence because the officer in the case said there was "nothing relevant on it", the review said.
"It is clear from our review that both the Met and the CPS did not carry out disclosure procedures properly in this case," Cdr Smith said.
Ms Lindley said Mr Allan's case had highlighted some "systemic and deep-rooted issues"
Abusive? No, it was an observation from reading the rubbish you post on here. It's not often I agree with alcazar, but he's certainly got your number.
Now toddle off in your Panda car and book some poor sod for doing a couple of mph over the limit
01 February 2018, 03:46 PM
#197
Scooby Regular
dont confuse the individual officer with general policies.
02 February 2018, 08:47 AM
#198
It's not me who's saying they were withheld, it's what has been reported after the review by the CPS and the Met. The Chief crook of the Met said in his apology they hadn't been given to the CPS. Why? Well, it makes your wonderful boys in Blue look good when you nail a 'crook'
Abusive? No, it was an observation from reading the rubbish you post on here. It's not often I agree with alcazar, but he's certainly got your number.
Now toddle off in your Panda car and book some poor sod for doing a couple of mph over the limit
Abusive? No, it was an observation from reading the rubbish you post on here. It's not often I agree with alcazar, but he's certainly got your number.
Now toddle off in your Panda car and book some poor sod for doing a couple of mph over the limit
And what don't you agree with on here?
As I said before, I work in emergency response so I don't 'book people for speeding'. Speeding offences only take up about 1% of police work - I'm involved in the other 99%
02 February 2018, 08:49 AM
#199
You don't know me or know what inquiries I'm involved in and what my workload is, yet you accuse me of being corrupt.
02 February 2018, 09:21 AM
#201
I don`t think anyone posting on here will deny that being a police officer is a challenging job,
But the issue most decent people have is that there seems to be a lot of "Bad Apples" within the forces,
The problem most of us have is that when people report or try, the bad ones seem to get no kind of punishment,
So the respect that we once had, has to diminish, as you just cant support a force that doesn't police it self, or in simple terms, officers think they are above the law, as they get away with it time and time again, and the decent officers never seem to step up and weed out the bad ones,
So when people say "I hate " the police, they really hate the bad ones, but also have contempt for the good ones as they let it continue.
But the issue most decent people have is that there seems to be a lot of "Bad Apples" within the forces,
The problem most of us have is that when people report or try, the bad ones seem to get no kind of punishment,
So the respect that we once had, has to diminish, as you just cant support a force that doesn't police it self, or in simple terms, officers think they are above the law, as they get away with it time and time again, and the decent officers never seem to step up and weed out the bad ones,
So when people say "I hate " the police, they really hate the bad ones, but also have contempt for the good ones as they let it continue.
02 February 2018, 10:30 AM
#202
I don`t think anyone posting on here will deny that being a police officer is a challenging job,
But the issue most decent people have is that there seems to be a lot of "Bad Apples" within the forces,
The problem most of us have is that when people report or try, the bad ones seem to get no kind of punishment,
So the respect that we once had, has to diminish, as you just cant support a force that doesn't police it self, or in simple terms, officers think they are above the law, as they get away with it time and time again, and the decent officers never seem to step up and weed out the bad ones,
So when people say "I hate " the police, they really hate the bad ones, but also have contempt for the good ones as they let it continue.
But the issue most decent people have is that there seems to be a lot of "Bad Apples" within the forces,
The problem most of us have is that when people report or try, the bad ones seem to get no kind of punishment,
So the respect that we once had, has to diminish, as you just cant support a force that doesn't police it self, or in simple terms, officers think they are above the law, as they get away with it time and time again, and the decent officers never seem to step up and weed out the bad ones,
So when people say "I hate " the police, they really hate the bad ones, but also have contempt for the good ones as they let it continue.
03 February 2018, 10:13 AM
#206
If the victim is not happy, then the process next is via the Independent Police Complaints. So its not a case of the 'good ones covering up for the bad ones'
In this case - if one message in the 40,000 has been overlooked, how am I suppose to be aware of this? Or do you want me to go through the 40,000 messages as well - but then the public don't want me sitting behind desks all day.
03 February 2018, 10:19 AM
#208
And how am I a compulsive liar?
If your going to make personal attacks like this on me, you will need support your claim.