Problems after mapping.
27 October 2017, 03:08 PM
#31
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Bad that he isnt interested in sorting your car if he has made an *** of it
27 October 2017, 03:20 PM
#32
I have been in contact via email with Bob Rawle
The car was mapped twice and brought up to Northern Ireland a third time to murray Motorsport to be given a clean bill of health with significant outlaw to me two genuine Subaru lambda sensors later still car is like a dog
I spoke to murray Motorsport asked them next time bob is flying over can I fly into cork airport instead do what he needs to do and I’ll drive him
Up north with everything hooked up to the car it’s 3.5 hours up I’d know 100 percent the car would be right then
I was laughed at
The car has had extensive diagnostics carried out here in cork again with signing at outlaw
Done a compression test check fuel pressure boost leaks smoke tests test injectors even though they done less than 1000 miles
Still we don’t have a reading from front sensor and god only knows what else is not right with it
The car was mapped twice and brought up to Northern Ireland a third time to murray Motorsport to be given a clean bill of health with significant outlaw to me two genuine Subaru lambda sensors later still car is like a dog
I spoke to murray Motorsport asked them next time bob is flying over can I fly into cork airport instead do what he needs to do and I’ll drive him
Up north with everything hooked up to the car it’s 3.5 hours up I’d know 100 percent the car would be right then
I was laughed at
The car has had extensive diagnostics carried out here in cork again with signing at outlaw
Done a compression test check fuel pressure boost leaks smoke tests test injectors even though they done less than 1000 miles
Still we don’t have a reading from front sensor and god only knows what else is not right with it
27 October 2017, 03:23 PM
#33
Scooby Regular
I have been in contact via email with Bob Rawle
The car was mapped twice and brought up to Northern Ireland a third time to murray Motorsport to be given a clean bill of health with significant outlaw to me two genuine Subaru lambda sensors later still car is like a dog
I spoke to murray Motorsport asked them next time bob is flying over can I fly into cork airport instead do what he needs to do and I’ll drive him
Up north with everything hooked up to the car it’s 3.5 hours up I’d know 100 percent the car would be right then
I was laughed at
The car has had extensive diagnostics carried out here in cork again with signing at outlaw
Done a compression test check fuel pressure boost leaks smoke tests test injectors even though they done less than 1000 miles
Still we don’t have a reading from front sensor and god only knows what else is not right with it
The car was mapped twice and brought up to Northern Ireland a third time to murray Motorsport to be given a clean bill of health with significant outlaw to me two genuine Subaru lambda sensors later still car is like a dog
I spoke to murray Motorsport asked them next time bob is flying over can I fly into cork airport instead do what he needs to do and I’ll drive him
Up north with everything hooked up to the car it’s 3.5 hours up I’d know 100 percent the car would be right then
I was laughed at
The car has had extensive diagnostics carried out here in cork again with signing at outlaw
Done a compression test check fuel pressure boost leaks smoke tests test injectors even though they done less than 1000 miles
Still we don’t have a reading from front sensor and god only knows what else is not right with it
Sounds like he has made a right *** of it
IF it worked fine before map, then can only be the map
27 October 2017, 04:49 PM
#35
Scooby Regular
29 October 2017, 10:25 AM
#38
Probably Because they are right and it isn't.
A remap doesn't replace the underlying components, it simply adjusts ignition and fuelling based on what your sensors are telling it.
I've had lambda faults that flagged up, which later turned out to be the MAF bring contaminated by a filter that I never asked to be oiled.
I've also had a suspected failed ECU that turned out to be a single injector.
For both those cars the map had zilch to do with it.
29 October 2017, 01:59 PM
#40
Scooby Regular
Probably Because they are right and it isn't.
A remap doesn't replace the underlying components, it simply adjusts ignition and fuelling based on what your sensors are telling it.
I've had lambda faults that flagged up, which later turned out to be the MAF bring contaminated by a filter that I never asked to be oiled.
I've also had a suspected failed ECU that turned out to be a single injector.
For both those cars the map had zilch to do with it.
A remap doesn't replace the underlying components, it simply adjusts ignition and fuelling based on what your sensors are telling it.
I've had lambda faults that flagged up, which later turned out to be the MAF bring contaminated by a filter that I never asked to be oiled.
I've also had a suspected failed ECU that turned out to be a single injector.
For both those cars the map had zilch to do with it.
Same for injector could be swapped around till faulty one found as SSM logger can see injector data.
OP car worked fined before map he says.
Also says his code is for running rich.
Could the rich running be that it was mapped with a boost leak which is now fixed ?
30 October 2017, 11:09 AM
#41
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Just my 2c worth.
My mates STi 7 was mapped and was also suffering from hesitancy, lumpyness and cutting out, it was so bad it was embarassing and dangerous as the engine would cut out as soon as you dipped the clutch.
We solved the issue this weekend by stripping off the throttle body and cleaning it in turps with a tooth brush, it turned out that it was all gunked up quite badly. After leaving it in turps to soak over night we gave it a good scrubbing in all channels, nooks and crannies and refitted it. Idle was much better, there was no cutting out anymore and the revs didn't drop as quickly.
This may not resolve your issue but it certainly will not hurt.
My mates STi 7 was mapped and was also suffering from hesitancy, lumpyness and cutting out, it was so bad it was embarassing and dangerous as the engine would cut out as soon as you dipped the clutch.
We solved the issue this weekend by stripping off the throttle body and cleaning it in turps with a tooth brush, it turned out that it was all gunked up quite badly. After leaving it in turps to soak over night we gave it a good scrubbing in all channels, nooks and crannies and refitted it. Idle was much better, there was no cutting out anymore and the revs didn't drop as quickly.
This may not resolve your issue but it certainly will not hurt.
30 October 2017, 11:23 AM
#42
A decent tuner would see that your maf was humped straight away ....... either by its voltage or readings in logs.
Same for injector could be swapped around till faulty one found as SSM logger can see injector data.
OP car worked fined before map he says.
Also says his code is for running rich.
Could the rich running be that it was mapped with a boost leak which is now fixed ?
Same for injector could be swapped around till faulty one found as SSM logger can see injector data.
OP car worked fined before map he says.
Also says his code is for running rich.
Could the rich running be that it was mapped with a boost leak which is now fixed ?
Now in saying that you can log the o2 sensor activity and combined with readings from the wideband o2 and the rest of the logging data you should be able to confirm that the sensor is or isn't working 100% (either the sensor itself is faulty or the readings reaching the ECU are being distorted) so confirming the operation of the sensor should be easy done if your garage has a wideband o2 they can pop up the exhaust.
30 October 2017, 11:40 AM
#43
Scooby Regular
not 100% true there in my opinion - the addition of a frontmount and a non-standard induction kit plus the larger injectors will throw the expected readings for MAF and injector duty out the window so it wouldn't be apparent at first glance that something is up. If the o2 sensor isn't feeding correct info into the ECU then the ECU could potentially think it's always lean or always rich and so keeps adjusting the fuel correction trying to get back where it should be. I seen a JDM forester before with a dead o2 that wouldn't hold 2400rpm for it's NCT - new sensor fitted and all was well.
Now in saying that you can log the o2 sensor activity and combined with readings from the wideband o2 and the rest of the logging data you should be able to confirm that the sensor is or isn't working 100% (either the sensor itself is faulty or the readings reaching the ECU are being distorted) so confirming the operation of the sensor should be easy done if your garage has a wideband o2 they can pop up the exhaust.
Now in saying that you can log the o2 sensor activity and combined with readings from the wideband o2 and the rest of the logging data you should be able to confirm that the sensor is or isn't working 100% (either the sensor itself is faulty or the readings reaching the ECU are being distorted) so confirming the operation of the sensor should be easy done if your garage has a wideband o2 they can pop up the exhaust.
Especially if its the 2nd brand new OEM one fitted,
Is it too much of a coincidence to all go wrong after map when car was fine before ?
30 October 2017, 12:29 PM
#44
it was fine or no problems where noticed at the time? Don't forget by the looks of things there's been a massive amount of parts thrown at the car as well as being mapped so it would be rash to throw judgement at anything specifically until the cars been checked over.
30 October 2017, 12:59 PM
#46
Scooby Regular
To then have tuner wash his hands of it and garage playing the blame game,
Bet he doesn't even care who's fault it is just wants it fixed,
Now neither will help incase it looks like accepting responsibility,
and to pay for this pleasure id be salty too
30 October 2017, 01:01 PM
#47
They’re was a lot of bolt on mods fitted that’s why I was quite rational about it up to the point it went up on the third visit to get it rectified once and for all
Collect it after 3 visit takes him 40sec to start it from cold noth Nothing done with the car for 8 weeks you can see why I’d never take my car back again
Collect it after 3 visit takes him 40sec to start it from cold noth Nothing done with the car for 8 weeks you can see why I’d never take my car back again
30 October 2017, 01:06 PM
#49
Scooby Regular
Your both in Ireland
Bludgods a helpful man when it comes to stock ecu
Dunno if he does later RaceRom ECUteks tho
Surely a pint of Guinness will be enough to sort it..........
Bludgods a helpful man when it comes to stock ecu
Dunno if he does later RaceRom ECUteks tho
Surely a pint of Guinness will be enough to sort it..........
30 October 2017, 02:09 PM
#52
Scooby Regular
I reckon start from scratch elsewhere is your only option now as neither tuner nor garage looks interested anymore
I can vouch for Bludgod as being one of most helpful folk I've been lucky to encounter through Subarus,
If he wasn't so across the water i would be paying him a visit myself
01 November 2017, 09:08 PM
#54
A decent tuner would see that your maf was humped straight away ....... either by its voltage or readings in logs.
Same for injector could be swapped around till faulty one found as SSM logger can see injector data.
OP car worked fined before map he says.
Also says his code is for running rich.
Could the rich running be that it was mapped with a boost leak which is now fixed ?
Same for injector could be swapped around till faulty one found as SSM logger can see injector data.
OP car worked fined before map he says.
Also says his code is for running rich.
Could the rich running be that it was mapped with a boost leak which is now fixed ?
How is a car with a boost leak running fine.
I'm waiting until the whole background story comes out, before I give a cast iron opinion.
01 November 2017, 11:15 PM
#55
Scooby Regular
I don't think i says a boost leak is fine either.
May have gone un-noticed
been mapped
got fixed and now affecting it
Don't think i says car with boost leak is fine