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Old Aug 6, 2017 | 10:05 PM
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Thanks Rob that's helpful
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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 06:52 AM
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Pretty sure the pistons in the bug STI were supposed to be stronger / forged like the Classic STI's ... like rob I can't remember the exact details but historically the Bug STI engines were stronger and the seats are always said to be the best.
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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Pretty sure the pistons in the bug STI were supposed to be stronger / forged like the Classic STI's ... like rob I can't remember the exact details but historically the Bug STI engines were stronger and the seats are always said to be the best.

That's what I believe



However I'm liking the Hatch Seats, but I don't believe they are interchangeable without mocking up new mounts


Seriously though, get the car mapped with switchable maps one with 20% meth and then you have the best of both worlds. A good mapper wont charge you anything for the additional work. The difference it makes is very noticeable .


If you need some mapper details just hollow Your standard ECU is more than capable of offering what you need with switchable ACL and LC with two maps. No need for a stand alone ECU or ECUTEK which is old hat in my opinion.
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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 08:19 AM
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Bug has proper forged style pistons the later ones are hypereutectic type, the seats are better because they still had a proper bucket style to them and the later seats were to accommodate fat people
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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Bug has proper forged style pistons the later ones are hypereutectic type, the seats are better because they still had a proper bucket style to them and the later seats were to accommodate fat people
I was hoping you'd be along to confirm... nice to see you mate.
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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 10:59 AM
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Wow lads, thanks so much for advice so how does switchable maps work? is it literally how it sounds a switch to swap between maps????
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Comfier than my blob Sti seats
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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 11:31 AM
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Good results mate

Upgrade route if you are thinking about it, panel filter/induction kit (CAI), headers and up pipe.

Had a look into meth fuel a long time ago and it really did seem more hassle then it was worth especially with storage and finding a good supplier. But things might have changed. Also couldn't be bothered with switching maps to put meth in the tank on the road. However they do have flex fuel but not sure if your ecu supports it. You can use other fuels and not worry about specific mixes because the ECU will work out what the ratios are and change timing etc.

I thought the hypereutectic were in the 2.5s. The other newages were factory forged and has been talked about a lot whether the 7 or 8 sti had the same strength or if one was stronger than the other

It really does depend on what thread you go on lol
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Originally Posted by stiMIGHTYsti
Wow lads, thanks so much for advice so how does switchable maps work? is it literally how it sounds a switch to swap between maps????

The mapper would install a switch for you to switch between, you could use the OEM spare switches that are generally located in the gearbox gator Same for the ALC


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Good results mate

Upgrade route if you are thinking about it, panel filter/induction kit (CAI), headers and up pipe.

Had a look into meth fuel a long time ago and it really did seem more hassle then it was worth especially with storage and finding a good supplier. But things might have changed. Also couldn't be bothered with switching maps to put meth in the tank on the road. However they do have flex fuel but not sure if your ecu supports it. You can use other fuels and not worry about specific mixes because the ECU will work out what the ratios are and change timing etc.

I thought the hypereutectic were in the 2.5s. The other newages were factory forged and has been talked about a lot whether the 7 or 8 sti had the same strength or if one was stronger than the other

It really does depend on what thread you go on lol

To be clear the OP cannot simply switch fuels/use different octanes to the one the car has been mapped to on the standard ECU. Mapping for 95 and using 99 would be fine, but not the other way around


I believe as already said the bugeye is believe to be the stronger of the semi forged engine, hey Banny ran over 500 through one


Yes running meth can be a pain if you don't have anywhere to store the stuff, but the hassle, as I said earlier, isn't hassle when your getting it for 50p per litre. I bought a drum for £100 delivered the last time I used it, left it in the shed covered up away from the sun and used a £10 hand pump to transfer into 5L cans, of which I had spares so that were primed in the shed. Generally the only time I had a filled 5L can in the car was when I was going to fill up, the rest of the time I didn't carry the stuff in the boot. However this doesn't work for everyone, and I did occasionally carry it when I knew I would need to refill on a long journey, but you could always run it down and then use the fuel only map.

Originally Posted by banny sti
Bug has proper forged style pistons the later ones are hypereutectic type, the seats are better because they still had a proper bucket style to them and the later seats were to accommodate fat people
Hahahah

Originally Posted by ditchmyster
I was hoping you'd be along to confirm... nice to see you mate.
Me too, greetings Banny
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Am I right in thinking ACL & AL is anti lag & launch control? Would I be able to put that on a standard ECU? not that I've ever use either but would be a nice touch. Not in to launching or scaring kids & grannies with anti lag. Think I chose well with this one.
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Originally Posted by Rob Day

To be clear the OP cannot simply switch fuels/use different octanes to the one the car has been mapped to on the standard ECU. Mapping for 95 and using 99 would be fine, but not the other way around
On the standard ECU you use what its been mapped to normally but what I was trying to say with flex fuel you can run different fuels without worrying about the ratios. That includes fuels like E85, nitrous etc so you could mix different octane as well. However it needs to be installed and mapped, I know you can get it on a classic with ECULabs but wasn't sure if that is the same with the newage ecu.

So just to be clear don't mess about with the fuel until it has been mapped
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Originally Posted by stiMIGHTYsti
Am I right in thinking ACL & AL is anti lag & launch control? Would I be able to put that on a standard ECU? not that I've ever use either but would be a nice touch. Not in to launching or scaring kids & grannies with anti lag. Think I chose well with this one.
You can do that on the standard ECU
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Old Aug 8, 2017 | 06:18 PM
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So if I wanted 380or around that.
I'm taking it would require a bigger turbo.
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Old Aug 8, 2017 | 06:32 PM
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yes bigger turbo and remap. possibly larger flow injectors depending on injector duty % . if you want the toys like anti lag and launch control you would need to have it mapped with carberry rom open source or fit an expensive aftermarket ecu.
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Originally Posted by stiMIGHTYsti
So if I wanted 380or around that.
I'm taking it would require a bigger turbo.
Try your current turbo bud, the lower gut response will put a smile on your face larger turbo means more lag, not to say don't do it, but why bother when you have the makings of 350-370 with meth already
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Originally Posted by Rob Day
Try your current turbo bud, the lower gut response will put a smile on your face larger turbo means more lag, not to say don't do it, but why bother when you have the makings of 350-370 with meth already
I'd be happy with 350-370. I'm gonna look at suppliers / storage of meth as I dont have any other bad habits so why not focus on my car.
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Originally Posted by stiMIGHTYsti
I'd be happy with 350-370. I'm gonna look at suppliers / storage of meth as I dont have any other bad habits so why not focus on my car.
You could look at smaller vats of meth to begin with to see if it's something you want to use, then work on larger quantities if it's what you want to do (2 maps).

If memory serves me its around

£100-£125 delivered for a drum (210litres I think) so apx 50p per litre

Or

£20 for 25 litre, so under a £ per litre.

I'll check whom I used, but something like "chem" rings a bell
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To add: Trinity Research is another company I've used, but checking the web I'm unsure if they are still trading. Ensure you get the most potent too, ie 99.5%+
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Originally Posted by Rob Day
To add: Trinity Research is another company I've used, but checking the web I'm unsure if they are still trading. Ensure you get the most potent too, ie 99.5%+
That's great been looking over last few days. Think I'm deffo gonna do meth via switchable maps. Tried look for a flex fuel kit but could only find ECUlabs which seamed a bit of a chew of to be honest. Cobb do them but vey expensive & only for later imprezas. I'm gonna stay with my vf30 see how it pans out as I like the way if performs.
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Originally Posted by stiMIGHTYsti
That's great been looking over last few days. Think I'm deffo gonna do meth via switchable maps. Tried look for a flex fuel kit but could only find ECUlabs which seamed a bit of a chew of to be honest. Cobb do them but vey expensive & only for later imprezas. I'm gonna stay with my vf30 see how it pans out as I like the way if performs.


I've done some digging, this appear to be the new contact:


Mark Schofield
Site EP1, Garth Rd, off Bridges Rd
Ellesmere Port
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Email:info@tekniska.co.uk
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Jenny chem ??
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Originally Posted by scooby2.5maz
Jenny chem ??
That's the one
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Originally Posted by Rob Day
I've done some digging, this appear to be the new contact:


Mark Schofield
Site EP1, Garth Rd, off Bridges Rd
Ellesmere Port
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CH654ET
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Email:info@tekniska.co.uk
Is this a supplier ??
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Originally Posted by stiMIGHTYsti
Is this a supplier ??
Seems to be, drop him an email bud
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Originally Posted by Rob Day
Seems to be, drop him an email bud
Thanks again Rob
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