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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 12:34 PM
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You really are reaching now.


Are you seriously saying we shouldn't be prepared for terrorist attacks?


You were fooled by fake news, why not just admit it.
Facebook/trump generation I'm afraid
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 12:39 PM
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Who, even 10 years ago, could have imagined that Christian England's great capital would ever have a muslim Mayor? It shows the incredible generosity of spirit of the English people that they could accept such an appointment with relative equanimity. I think that acceptance may be wearing a bit thin now though.
Accepting as in voting for him ?
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 12:40 PM
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there you go Kwik, some positive reinforcement for you


Seriously though, this is how easy it is to turn lies into 'facts' these days. I guess people just want to believe it, so they lap it up!

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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
You really are reaching now.


Are you seriously saying we shouldn't be prepared for terrorist attacks?


You were fooled by fake news, why not just admit it.
Wtf are you talking about? How is it fake news? He said those words. Your whole argument of it being 'fake' seems to be when he said it rather than the fact he said it.

Would you accept 'we should be prepared for more tower block fires of this nature'? Or would you rather hear 'we will make sure this doesn't happen again'?
What if he'd said in September 'we should be prepared for tower block fires that would kill 100 people' you'd accept that would you?

He's weak. End of.
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Facebook/trump generation I'm afraid
I get it, you were humiliated when you realised you'd been fooled into quoting something that wasn't said.
Id imagine trying to make someone else out to be a victim of fake news would quantify you're ridiculous stupidity, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005




there you go Kwik, some positive reinforcement for you


Seriously though, this is how easy it is to turn lies into 'facts' these days. I guess people just want to believe it, so they lap it up!
But you're another that was tricked into believing trump
said 'terrorist attack in Sweden last night' you really can't quote fake news lol. You're just as dim as dpb
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
Wtf are you talking about? How is it fake news? He said those words. Your whole argument of it being 'fake' seems to be when he said it rather than the fact he said it.

Would you accept 'we should be prepared for more tower block fires of this nature'? Or would you rather hear 'we will make sure this doesn't happen again'?
What if he'd said in September 'we should be prepared for tower block fires that would kill 100 people' you'd accept that would you?

He's weak. End of.

Indeed the quote is his, and is completely true and correct. You managed to fall for the twisted version of that quote, and are now back peddling at light speed.




If by being prepared for tower block fires such a bad idea, then how about disbanding the fire service then? Having firemen just encourages fires


Putting up with idiots whose arguments fall apart, who then change them completely is all 'part and parcel' of this forum

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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 01:07 PM
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Putting up with idiots whose arguments fall apart, who then change them completely is all 'part and parcel' of this forum[/QUOTE]



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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 01:08 PM
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[QUOTE=dpb;11947809]
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Accepting as in voting for him ?

So you think 100% of Londoners voted for him then? And I wonder how his election would pan out now.
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Indeed the quote is his, and is completely true and correct. You managed to fall for the twisted version of that quote, and are now back peddling at light speed.




If by being prepared for tower block fires such a bad idea, then how about disbanding the fire service then? Having firemen just encourages fires


Putting up with idiots whose arguments fall apart, who then change them completely is all 'part and parcel' of this forum
You're clutching at straws. And as per usual deliberately choosing to not answer simple questions.
Would another mayor after 3 terror attacks face the same scrutiny?

Oh and fake news has to be fake. He said it so it's real.
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 02:02 PM
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All rhetoric with a less than subtle blend of bull****e timewasting
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
All rhetoric with a less than subtle blend of bull****e timewasting


Says the man with 43,000+ posts
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Paben
Says the man with 43,000+ posts
Its mental. They cry fake news when it's a non white person being scrutinised even when those words were actually used, yet believe everything the media say about a white bloke even when quite clearly certain words weren't used.
And they have the audacity to say right wing groups are racist lol.

Libtards need to get out of the dark ages and start treating people equally.
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
Any other politician who was responsible for the safety and security of a certain area or district which had been hit with 3 terror incidents would come under the same scrutiny.
I think the big question should be why exactly you think he shouldn't? I think we all know the answer to that.
It's the Home Office and Government who are responsible for our safety and security. All these events have happened on Amber Rudd's watch, in an environment of massive cuts to police and security services. Have a go at her and May instead. Khan can only try and get by with the resources he is given. Are you saying that the cities with no elected major have no one responsible for their security and safety? Also, despite the fact that he was vilified for being a loony lefty, I don't recall Ken Livingston being under such scrutiny for the 7/7 attacks.
Why has a thread about an attack on muslims near a mosque become an opportunity to discredit the London Mayor? I think we all know the answer to that......
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Sad Weevil
It's the Home Office and Government who are responsible for our safety and security. All these events have happened on Amber Rudd's watch, in an environment of massive cuts to police and security services. Have a go at her and May instead. Khan can only try and get by with the resources he is given. Are you saying that the cities with no elected major have no one responsible for their security and safety? Also, despite the fact that he was vilified for being a loony lefty, I don't recall Ken Livingston being under such scrutiny for the 7/7 attacks.
Why has a thread about an attack on muslims near a mosque become an opportunity to discredit the London Mayor? I think we all know the answer to that......
So you suggest blaming a white lady instead?. I wouldn't say I'd disagree, it's just interesting.
Had 3 attacks happened in such a short space of time I'm sure the same would have been said against him. This thread shouldn't have turned into a pro khan, non pro Khan debate but unfortunately people have an opinion that's negative about someone non white, and that is unacceptable in this day and age.

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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
I see this nasty smear campaign against Khan continues.






Could somebody explain to me what he's actually done that's so offensive?
i may be wrong but did he not represent legally terrorists from either 911 or the london buses actually he was legal consultant https://youtu.be/3ZM6ujJ983cto zacarias moussaoui 9/11 bomber

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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by madscoob
i may be wrong but did he not represent legally terrorists from either 911 or the london buses actually he was legal consultant https://youtu.be/3ZM6ujJ983cto zacarias moussaoui 9/11 bomber
Yeah but the only evidence against them was their confessions.....
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
FFS


Why can we not have an incident in this country with the ghost of Enoch Powell. He made those comments 50 years ago, and was wrong then, and is wrong now.
He was right then as there were riots in major english cities and it has come true again with evil being carried out on the streets.
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 05:47 PM
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Failed opportunist very much in the Trump mold

Yanks are just Dumber
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Yanks are just Dumber
Wow! Here's me trying to show reverse racism and you just knock it right out of the park with straight old fashioned racism.
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Originally Posted by Kwik
You're clutching at straws. And as per usual deliberately choosing to not answer simple questions.
Would another mayor after 3 terror attacks face the same scrutiny?

Oh and fake news has to be fake. He said it so it's real.
What simple questions am I not answering? Go for I'll try and answer questions you want.
Past experience tells me that I'm wasting my time though.

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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
Wow! Here's me trying to show reverse racism and you just knock it right out of the park with straight old fashioned racism.
Yanks are multi racial. Maybe this is where you've been going wrong
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Yanks are multi racial. Maybe this is where you've been going wrong
"Similarly, in British law the phrase racial group means "any group of people who are defined by reference to their race, colour, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origin". ... The Norwegian Anti-Discrimination Act bans discrimination based onethnicity, national origin, descent and skin color."

Regardless of colour or religion you've just branded an entire nation as 'dumb'. That'll take some beating by even the NF's standards.

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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
What simple questions am I not answering? Go for I'll try and answer questions you want.
Past experience tells me that I'm wasting my time though.
Do you believe that had 3 attacks happened in such a short space of time any other political leader would be under the same scrutiny?. (3rd time of asking).

What puts you of the mind that he has no accountability?.

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Originally Posted by Kwik
Do you believe that had 3 attacks happened in such a short space of time any other political leader would be under the same scrutiny?. (3rd time of asking).

What puts you of the mind that he has no accountability?.

To the first question, he is scrutinised constantly, by the media, by the London Assembly and by the government. So yes he should be, and is scrutinised. The part that I find so objectionable is that you even call this nasty smear campaign 'scrutiny', it isn't, it's reactionary forces stirring up racial hate because he's a Muslim, and therefore in some way to blame, or sympathetic to these extremists (or at least that's the undertone).


The second question, LOL that's you just be you. When have I ever said anything of the sort?

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As someone else said i also think this is not a terror attack its a revenge/hate attack. I seriously doubt he has planned this for months. Im not in anyway saying what this man has done is right by no means but maybe he lost someone close in recent events and something has triggered him into thinking this was the only way he could deal with it? Maybe we will never know why. In the ideal world we would all live in peace but its never going to happen and this isnt the last by a long chalk.
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Just seems to be recent times where loonies seem to be hiring cars/vans/lorries and go and mow down a load of people.

Must be the latest weapon of choice for crackpots
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
To the first question, he is scrutinised constantly, by the media, by the London Assembly and by the government. So yes he should be, and is scrutinised. The part that I find so objectionable is that you even call this nasty smear campaign 'scrutiny', it isn't, it's reactionary forces stirring up racial hate because he's a Muslim, and therefore in some way to blame, or sympathetic to these extremists (or at least that's the undertone).


The second question, LOL that's you just be you. When have I ever said anything of the sort?
So he's scrutinised and you agree he should be. But you don't like that he's scrutinised because he's a Muslim?.
Perhaps he's just a **** mayor. I can't think of any leader in the world that has had as much **** happen on their watch and done nothing to stop it.
As for smear campaign.... he's a politician. I don't think there's ever been a bigger smear campaign as the current one against trump. You were perpetuating that only the other week. Is that acceptable because you don't like trump and believe what you read about him? Or is it because he isn't a Muslim?.
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So he's scrutinised and you agree he should be. But you don't like that he's scrutinised because he's a Muslim?.
Perhaps he's just a **** mayor. I can't think of any leader in the world that has had as much **** happen on their watch and done nothing to stop it.
As for smear campaign.... he's a politician. I don't think there's ever been a bigger smear campaign as the current one against trump. You were perpetuating that only the other week. Is that acceptable because you don't like trump and believe what you read about him? Or is it because he isn't a Muslim?.
I thought it would be a waste of time
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
I thought it would be a waste of time
Its only a waste of time Martin as you can't answer quite simple questions as per usual.

Equality means treating everyone the same. Khan, regardless of his race or religion will go down in history as having the most **** happen whilst he was mayor (we hope).
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