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29 March 2017, 08:10 PM
#241
Now we all know you and the truth rarely meet ditch, and it's obvious the propaganda machine has got you spinning a web for it but now you're directly saying something that clearly isn't there.
20 or 30 in a baying mob isn't the entire British community you absolute cretin. Just as the Muslim community, or 20 or 30 of them it would take to oust a terrorist isn't the entire Muslim community.
Now we all know you can fight 20 blokes at a time, can change an engine in under an hour and are the fastest person ever but moving the goal posts during an argument is perhaps your real strong point.
You simply cannot have a reasonable debate without out and out lying. You're as much of a nut job as any terrorist.
20 or 30 in a baying mob isn't the entire British community you absolute cretin. Just as the Muslim community, or 20 or 30 of them it would take to oust a terrorist isn't the entire Muslim community.
Now we all know you can fight 20 blokes at a time, can change an engine in under an hour and are the fastest person ever but moving the goal posts during an argument is perhaps your real strong point.
You simply cannot have a reasonable debate without out and out lying. You're as much of a nut job as any terrorist.
30 March 2017, 12:36 AM
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Now we all know you and the truth rarely meet ditch, and it's obvious the propaganda machine has got you spinning a web for it but now you're directly saying something that clearly isn't there.
20 or 30 in a baying mob isn't the entire British community you absolute cretin. Just as the Muslim community, or 20 or 30 of them it would take to oust a terrorist isn't the entire Muslim community.
Now we all know you can fight 20 blokes at a time, can change an engine in under an hour and are the fastest person ever but moving the goal posts during an argument is perhaps your real strong point.
You simply cannot have a reasonable debate without out and out lying. You're as much of a nut job as any terrorist.
20 or 30 in a baying mob isn't the entire British community you absolute cretin. Just as the Muslim community, or 20 or 30 of them it would take to oust a terrorist isn't the entire Muslim community.
Now we all know you can fight 20 blokes at a time, can change an engine in under an hour and are the fastest person ever but moving the goal posts during an argument is perhaps your real strong point.
You simply cannot have a reasonable debate without out and out lying. You're as much of a nut job as any terrorist.
I for one have no idea what you're driving at. It seems to be something about Muslims and liberals, but everytime someone asks you to clarify what you mean, you row back.
it all seems fairly random to me
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30 March 2017, 01:19 AM
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Well if you did your own research then you'd see there was a survey conducted recently which would suggest 2 out of 3 muslims wouldn't contact authorities if they knew of someone plotting a terrorist attack.
Surveys are inaccurate, it was only conducted of 1000 people. I'm not sure I'd trust the source either. But, of those 1000 how many said they would but in truth wouldn't. It could be said that it's a much larger figure.
There red is also no evidence to support that his own family didn't know anything either. There was no 'evidence' that the Syrian suicide bomber from Crawley was about to blow himself up. But his brother attended all the same meetings within Crawley and his friend went to Syria with him and had the last message stating there was 'still more to do'.
What is being suggested here and believed by the brainwashed liberals (and scoobynet is awash with them) is that the white community are able to determine a 'wrong un' but the Muslims aren't. Not just once, but time and time again.
Why not show me some evidence of planned attacks
being foiled by the Muslim community?
Surveys are inaccurate, it was only conducted of 1000 people. I'm not sure I'd trust the source either. But, of those 1000 how many said they would but in truth wouldn't. It could be said that it's a much larger figure.
There red is also no evidence to support that his own family didn't know anything either. There was no 'evidence' that the Syrian suicide bomber from Crawley was about to blow himself up. But his brother attended all the same meetings within Crawley and his friend went to Syria with him and had the last message stating there was 'still more to do'.
What is being suggested here and believed by the brainwashed liberals (and scoobynet is awash with them) is that the white community are able to determine a 'wrong un' but the Muslims aren't. Not just once, but time and time again.
Why not show me some evidence of planned attacks
being foiled by the Muslim community?
Given that your research is so comprehensive, then please post it up.
I think that you're having a dig at Liberals but using Muslim extremists as your 'evidence', but like I said, it's hard to tell.
For what it's worth, social media has been awash with fake news stories following the Westminster attack, people with a reactionary agenda exploiting the tragedy to forward their illiberal agendas.
At least you're trying (badly) to debate the actual issues.
Oh and btw, to claim that SN is 'awash with liberals' is bonkers. SN (or at least this forum) is heavily right and nationalist leaning. Just look at polls that have actually been conducted on here. If it was down to SN we'd be living in a UKIP ruled state, with few immigrants, the death penalty and public floggings for anyone claiming benefits 😀
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30 March 2017, 06:13 AM
#244
Now we all know you and the truth rarely meet ditch, and it's obvious the propaganda machine has got you spinning a web for it but now you're directly saying something that clearly isn't there.
20 or 30 in a baying mob isn't the entire British community you absolute cretin. Just as the Muslim community, or 20 or 30 of them it would take to oust a terrorist isn't the entire Muslim community.
Now we all know you can fight 20 blokes at a time, can change an engine in under an hour and are the fastest person ever but moving the goal posts during an argument is perhaps your real strong point.
You simply cannot have a reasonable debate without out and out lying. You're as much of a nut job as any terrorist.
20 or 30 in a baying mob isn't the entire British community you absolute cretin. Just as the Muslim community, or 20 or 30 of them it would take to oust a terrorist isn't the entire Muslim community.
Now we all know you can fight 20 blokes at a time, can change an engine in under an hour and are the fastest person ever but moving the goal posts during an argument is perhaps your real strong point.
You simply cannot have a reasonable debate without out and out lying. You're as much of a nut job as any terrorist.
If anyone is a brain washed nut job... it's you... Maybe we should inform the authorities that there's a bloke working with Eastern Europeans and a Muslim that's possibly a danger to them and himself.
30 March 2017, 10:34 AM
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Oh and btw, to claim that SN is 'awash with liberals' is bonkers. SN (or at least this forum) is heavily right and nationalist leaning. Just look at polls that have actually been conducted on here. If it was down to SN we'd be living in a UKIP ruled state, with few immigrants, the death penalty and public floggings for anyone claiming benefits ��
You know full well that lefty/liberal bashing is simply a method applied when all other lines of debate are extinguished. 
30 March 2017, 01:13 PM
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P.S.: You may spell the last word of my post differently e.g. kwikzotesque.
30 March 2017, 02:55 PM
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Given that your research is so comprehensive, then please post it up.
I think that you're having a dig at Liberals but using Muslim extremists as your 'evidence', but like I said, it's hard to tell.
For what it's worth, social media has been awash with fake news stories following the Westminster attack, people with a reactionary agenda exploiting the tragedy to forward their illiberal agendas.
At least you're trying (badly) to debate the actual issues.
Oh and btw, to claim that SN is 'awash with liberals' is bonkers. SN (or at least this forum) is heavily right and nationalist leaning. Just look at polls that have actually been conducted on here. If it was down to SN we'd be living in a UKIP ruled state, with few immigrants, the death penalty and public floggings for anyone claiming benefits 😀
I think that you're having a dig at Liberals but using Muslim extremists as your 'evidence', but like I said, it's hard to tell.
For what it's worth, social media has been awash with fake news stories following the Westminster attack, people with a reactionary agenda exploiting the tragedy to forward their illiberal agendas.
At least you're trying (badly) to debate the actual issues.
Oh and btw, to claim that SN is 'awash with liberals' is bonkers. SN (or at least this forum) is heavily right and nationalist leaning. Just look at polls that have actually been conducted on here. If it was down to SN we'd be living in a UKIP ruled state, with few immigrants, the death penalty and public floggings for anyone claiming benefits 😀
I am having a dig at liberals. The 'together' ideaology that spread like wildfire is damaging as it firstly isn't true and secondly prevents any action which could mean attacks like the one at Westminster become either a thing of the past or less common worldwide.
After any attack the first reaction from liberals is to deny any involvement from Islam. Then when it is revealed to have been an attacker using Islam as the basis it is said that this person operated alone without help.
The surrounding community is then said to have had no idea.
There needs to be more of a call to the Muslim community to dig these 'lone wolves' out and less comments on terrorism being 'part and parcel of living in a major city'.
So, to spell it out yet again.
liberal - there isn't a problem
right - all muslims are a problem.
The middle ground is where the truth is, I don't believe 2/3rds of Muslims would turn a blind eye to a potential attacker but I do believe a large number have, are and will turn a blind eye.
A white British community can cast out a white British peadophile, and let's be honest
the white British community are hardly close knit. Yet the Muslim community who are a lot closer repeatedly do not cast out lone wolves of their own so begs the question are they truly alone?.
30 March 2017, 03:02 PM
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Why an anti white comment like that isn't considered racist and you weren't banned (as it clearly states in the rules) at the time speaks volumes about the liberal backbone of this site and it's admin. It also points out that racism in this country is only acceptable when it's applied to white people.
30 March 2017, 03:05 PM
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But he wasn't 'one of them' , he was a convert - a misfit
as are most attackers
This is where your ideas fall flat on face
as are most attackers
This is where your ideas fall flat on face
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30 March 2017, 03:06 PM
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The problem is Kwik, I'm not sure anyone is really clear on what is you are saying.
I for one have no idea what you're driving at. It seems to be something about Muslims and liberals, but everytime someone asks you to clarify what you mean, you row back.
it all seems fairly random to me
I for one have no idea what you're driving at. It seems to be something about Muslims and liberals, but everytime someone asks you to clarify what you mean, you row back.
it all seems fairly random to me
30 March 2017, 03:16 PM
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If it is as simple as you say why not explain how a prodominantly white community can identify a threat yet the Muslim community on repeated occasions cannot.
I think you need to consider claims that the inspire handbook was downloaded 50,000 times and that 3000 potential terrorists are currently being surveilled. That might give you an idea that although I expect those figures to be exaggerated there are a lot more 'lone wolves' than you think. Combined with claims that 2/3rds of Muslims would not report a potential terrorist just shows that these multiple lone wolves are doing so with a certain amount of support.
30 March 2017, 06:38 PM
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To be fair you normally stay well away from any thread I'm posting on since I called you up on the anti-white comments you made a while back regarding rice. I think your comment was 'you white people love that ****'.
Why an anti white comment like that isn't considered racist and you weren't banned (as it clearly states in the rules) at the time speaks volumes about the liberal backbone of this site and it's admin. It also points out that racism in this country is only acceptable when it's applied to white people.
Why an anti white comment like that isn't considered racist and you weren't banned (as it clearly states in the rules) at the time speaks volumes about the liberal backbone of this site and it's admin. It also points out that racism in this country is only acceptable when it's applied to white people.
30 March 2017, 06:50 PM
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A convert within a community.
If it is as simple as you say why not explain how a prodominantly white community can identify a threat yet the Muslim community on repeated occasions cannot.
I think you need to consider claims that the inspire handbook was downloaded 50,000 times and that 3000 potential terrorists are currently being surveilled. That might give you an idea that although I expect those figures to be exaggerated there are a lot more 'lone wolves' than you think. Combined with claims that 2/3rds of Muslims would not report a potential terrorist just shows that these multiple lone wolves are doing so with a certain amount of support.
If it is as simple as you say why not explain how a prodominantly white community can identify a threat yet the Muslim community on repeated occasions cannot.
I think you need to consider claims that the inspire handbook was downloaded 50,000 times and that 3000 potential terrorists are currently being surveilled. That might give you an idea that although I expect those figures to be exaggerated there are a lot more 'lone wolves' than you think. Combined with claims that 2/3rds of Muslims would not report a potential terrorist just shows that these multiple lone wolves are doing so with a certain amount of support.
So presumably we talking about an online community ?
30 March 2017, 07:48 PM
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Or is that somehow different? Are all right wing white people somehow responsible?
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31 March 2017, 05:46 AM
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Hi,
Here is an interesting article in our local daily newspaper:-
http://www.thenational.ae/opinion/co...extremism#full
It makes some very valid points.
Cheers
Steve
Here is an interesting article in our local daily newspaper:-
http://www.thenational.ae/opinion/co...extremism#full
It makes some very valid points.
Cheers
Steve
31 March 2017, 06:17 AM
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Hi,
Here is an interesting article in our local daily newspaper:-
http://www.thenational.ae/opinion/co...extremism#full
It makes some very valid points.
Cheers
Steve
Here is an interesting article in our local daily newspaper:-
http://www.thenational.ae/opinion/co...extremism#full
It makes some very valid points.
Cheers
Steve
31 March 2017, 10:50 AM
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Hi,
Here is an interesting article in our local daily newspaper:-
http://www.thenational.ae/opinion/co...extremism#full
It makes some very valid points.
Cheers
Steve
Here is an interesting article in our local daily newspaper:-
http://www.thenational.ae/opinion/co...extremism#full
It makes some very valid points.
Cheers
Steve
01 April 2017, 09:57 AM
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I'd say it's obviously very different, a specific political attack on a specific political person is very different to an attack on random people, different nations and backgrounds driven by religion.
But I would point out that there was wide condemnation of britians first, even though the apparent shouts of Britains first was widely discredited.
I don't remember people sticking up for britains first, its members or saying that 'it's just one nut job the rest are ALL good'.
But I would like to ask if you think there are britains first members that agreed with this attack?
Do you not agree that he HAD to be a lone wolf? Had anyone known what he was about to do within the community would have put a stop to it. Could he have done the same if he was married, not a loner and lived with orhers? After all it was one member of that community that followed him after to ensure his capture. And that is where the problem lies.
Also show me a survey that would suggest 2/3 white British wouldn't have alerted the authorities.
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01 April 2017, 10:07 AM
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Lol. Not at all. I think the Jo *** murder is somewhat celebrated by the left wing as some sort of victory. I did wonder how long it would take for someone to bring it up as if it is remotely similar.
But I think it highlights the differences between the communities, the media condemnation rather than support, and it highlights the left wing desperately trying to somehow justify its non action in prevention of Muslim terrorism.
Do you think there are no britains first members who agree with Jo ***'s murder? Try not to side step this question please.
But I think it highlights the differences between the communities, the media condemnation rather than support, and it highlights the left wing desperately trying to somehow justify its non action in prevention of Muslim terrorism.
Do you think there are no britains first members who agree with Jo ***'s murder? Try not to side step this question please.
01 April 2017, 10:15 AM
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It came as no shock that he resided here.
01 April 2017, 10:28 AM
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Why does it side step his time in Crawley and therefore his links to other Crawley Terrorists?.
This is exactly my point, that the media writes something and it's taken as a 'good article' even though it quite clearly leaves out some very important facts.
The whole Crawley connection rules out the 'one nut job in the community' theory.
I'll get in with the 'there's another nut job in Crawley' cheap shot before anyone else does lol.
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To be fair you normally stay well away from any thread I'm posting on since I called you up on the anti-white comments you made a while back regarding rice. I think your comment was 'you white people love that ****'.
Why an anti white comment like that isn't considered racist and you weren't banned (as it clearly states in the rules) at the time speaks volumes about the liberal backbone of this site and it's admin. It also points out that racism in this country is only acceptable when it's applied to white people.
Why an anti white comment like that isn't considered racist and you weren't banned (as it clearly states in the rules) at the time speaks volumes about the liberal backbone of this site and it's admin. It also points out that racism in this country is only acceptable when it's applied to white people.
LOL, get real! I hardly ever interacted with your extreme, hatred-filled, racist and Quixotic posts, even long before that. Get some help before it's too late.
01 April 2017, 11:09 AM
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Firstly I'd like to point out yet again even though I've said it on numerous occasions that I do not think ALL Muslims are responsible for terrorist attacks.
I'd say it's obviously very different, a specific political attack on a specific political person is very different to an attack on random people, different nations and backgrounds driven by religion.
But I would point out that there was wide condemnation of britians first, even though the apparent shouts of Britains first was widely discredited.
I don't remember people sticking up for britains first, its members or saying that 'it's just one nut job the rest are ALL good'.
But I would like to ask if you think there are britains first members that agreed with this attack?
Do you not agree that he HAD to be a lone wolf? Had anyone known what he was about to do within the community would have put a stop to it. Could he have done the same if he was married, not a loner and lived with orhers? After all it was one member of that community that followed him after to ensure his capture. And that is where the problem lies.
Also show me a survey that would suggest 2/3 white British wouldn't have alerted the authorities.
I'd say it's obviously very different, a specific political attack on a specific political person is very different to an attack on random people, different nations and backgrounds driven by religion.
But I would point out that there was wide condemnation of britians first, even though the apparent shouts of Britains first was widely discredited.
I don't remember people sticking up for britains first, its members or saying that 'it's just one nut job the rest are ALL good'.
But I would like to ask if you think there are britains first members that agreed with this attack?
Do you not agree that he HAD to be a lone wolf? Had anyone known what he was about to do within the community would have put a stop to it. Could he have done the same if he was married, not a loner and lived with orhers? After all it was one member of that community that followed him after to ensure his capture. And that is where the problem lies.
Also show me a survey that would suggest 2/3 white British wouldn't have alerted the authorities.
So, your delusional thinking also makes you believe that you 'terrorised' me off with your nonsense, since then? LOL, get real! I hardly ever interacted with your extreme, hatred-filled, racist and Quixotic posts, even long before that.
Get some help before it's too late.
LOL, get real! I hardly ever interacted with your extreme, hatred-filled, racist and Quixotic posts, even long before that.Get some help before it's too late.
That coupled with your previous 'white people love that ****' quite clearly shows your intolerance to white people and their opinions.
Im sure the liberal scoobynet community and admin will support you though. Even though you quite clearly generalised a race with a negative statement.