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05 February 2017, 02:22 PM
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Is there a place in multicultural britain for sharia law ?
The point for me in this thread is trying to come to a decision on if the rapidly growing population of muslims in the uk is going to be a bad thing .
Its easy to think **** this is bad . But actually trying to examine it and understand where the uk is actually heading isnt so easy.
Is our goverment going about this multicultural britain in the right way .
Perhaps we should just see how it all pans out and tackle any issues as they arise.thats easy for me to say living where i do but i imagine not so easy if i was from say Luton
The point for me in this thread is trying to come to a decision on if the rapidly growing population of muslims in the uk is going to be a bad thing .
Its easy to think **** this is bad . But actually trying to examine it and understand where the uk is actually heading isnt so easy.
Is our goverment going about this multicultural britain in the right way .
Perhaps we should just see how it all pans out and tackle any issues as they arise.thats easy for me to say living where i do but i imagine not so easy if i was from say Luton
05 February 2017, 02:42 PM
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Is there a place in multicultural britain for sharia law ?
The point for me in this thread is trying to come to a decision on if the rapidly growing population of muslims in the uk is going to be a bad thing .
Its easy to think **** this is bad . But actually trying to examine it and understand where the uk is actually heading isnt so easy.
Is our goverment going about this multicultural britain in the right way .
Perhaps we should just see how it all pans out and tackle any issues as they arise.thats easy for me to say living where i do but i imagine not so easy if i was from say Luton
The point for me in this thread is trying to come to a decision on if the rapidly growing population of muslims in the uk is going to be a bad thing .
Its easy to think **** this is bad . But actually trying to examine it and understand where the uk is actually heading isnt so easy.
Is our goverment going about this multicultural britain in the right way .
Perhaps we should just see how it all pans out and tackle any issues as they arise.thats easy for me to say living where i do but i imagine not so easy if i was from say Luton
05 February 2017, 03:47 PM
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I suppose the best way to see how multicultural britain will be(in regards to Muslims) in the future is to study how it is now in the areas with highest population of Muslims .
It would be great to hear from people from the areas below
Figures taken in 2011. I think there are around 700000 more muslims in the uk now in 2017
London Borough of Tower Hamlets 34.5% 87,696
London Borough of Newham 32.0% 98,456
Blackburn with Darwen 27.4% 38,817
City of Bradford 24.7% 129,041
Luton 24.6% 49,991
London Borough of Redbridge 23.3% 64,999
Slough 23.3% 32,655
London Borough of Waltham Forest 21.9% 56,541
Birmingham 21.8% 234,411
Leicester 18.6% 61,440
London Borough of Brent 18.6% 58,036
City of Westminster 18.3% 40,073
Metropolitan Borough of Oldham 17.7% 39,879
Pendle 17.4% 15,579
London Borough of Enfield 16.7% 52,141
Manchester 15.8% 79,496
London Borough of Ealing 15.7% 53,198
Kirklees 14.5% 61,280
London Central Mosque interior
London Borough of Haringey 14.2% 36,130
London Borough of Hackney 14.1% 34,727
Are these nice places to move to ?
It would be great to hear from people from the areas below
Figures taken in 2011. I think there are around 700000 more muslims in the uk now in 2017
London Borough of Tower Hamlets 34.5% 87,696
London Borough of Newham 32.0% 98,456
Blackburn with Darwen 27.4% 38,817
City of Bradford 24.7% 129,041
Luton 24.6% 49,991
London Borough of Redbridge 23.3% 64,999
Slough 23.3% 32,655
London Borough of Waltham Forest 21.9% 56,541
Birmingham 21.8% 234,411
Leicester 18.6% 61,440
London Borough of Brent 18.6% 58,036
City of Westminster 18.3% 40,073
Metropolitan Borough of Oldham 17.7% 39,879
Pendle 17.4% 15,579
London Borough of Enfield 16.7% 52,141
Manchester 15.8% 79,496
London Borough of Ealing 15.7% 53,198
Kirklees 14.5% 61,280
London Central Mosque interior
London Borough of Haringey 14.2% 36,130
London Borough of Hackney 14.1% 34,727
Are these nice places to move to ?
Last edited by gary77; 05 February 2017 at 04:14 PM. Reason: Changed from where most live to highest population. There are more Muslims in other areas than the total of that list combine
05 February 2017, 04:02 PM
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I suppose the best way to see how multicultural britain will be(in regards to Muslims) in the future is to study how it is now in the areas most Muslims live.
It would be great to hear from people from the areas below
Figures taken in 2011. I think there are around 700000 more muslims in the uk now in 2017
London Borough of Tower Hamlets 34.5% 87,696
London Borough of Newham 32.0% 98,456
Blackburn with Darwen 27.4% 38,817
City of Bradford 24.7% 129,041
Luton 24.6% 49,991
London Borough of Redbridge 23.3% 64,999
Slough 23.3% 32,655
London Borough of Waltham Forest 21.9% 56,541
Birmingham 21.8% 234,411
Leicester 18.6% 61,440
London Borough of Brent 18.6% 58,036
City of Westminster 18.3% 40,073
Metropolitan Borough of Oldham 17.7% 39,879
Pendle 17.4% 15,579
London Borough of Enfield 16.7% 52,141
Manchester 15.8% 79,496
London Borough of Ealing 15.7% 53,198
Kirklees 14.5% 61,280
London Central Mosque interior
London Borough of Haringey 14.2% 36,130
London Borough of Hackney 14.1% 34,727
Are these nice places to move to ?
It would be great to hear from people from the areas below
Figures taken in 2011. I think there are around 700000 more muslims in the uk now in 2017
London Borough of Tower Hamlets 34.5% 87,696
London Borough of Newham 32.0% 98,456
Blackburn with Darwen 27.4% 38,817
City of Bradford 24.7% 129,041
Luton 24.6% 49,991
London Borough of Redbridge 23.3% 64,999
Slough 23.3% 32,655
London Borough of Waltham Forest 21.9% 56,541
Birmingham 21.8% 234,411
Leicester 18.6% 61,440
London Borough of Brent 18.6% 58,036
City of Westminster 18.3% 40,073
Metropolitan Borough of Oldham 17.7% 39,879
Pendle 17.4% 15,579
London Borough of Enfield 16.7% 52,141
Manchester 15.8% 79,496
London Borough of Ealing 15.7% 53,198
Kirklees 14.5% 61,280
London Central Mosque interior
London Borough of Haringey 14.2% 36,130
London Borough of Hackney 14.1% 34,727
Are these nice places to move to ?
05 February 2017, 04:14 PM
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Too big to answer. May do after church this evening. White flight springs to mind and that, coupled with the human tendency to form enclaves, leads to the kind of apartheid that makes a mockery of the notion of muli-culturalism.
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05 February 2017, 04:20 PM
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I have to agree again.
So is the future of multicultural britain going to be those areas above growing bigger and spreading out.
I wonder what percent of Muslims want sharia law . And will that be nesesary as there percentage in uk population grows.
And is sharia law a good thing
So is the future of multicultural britain going to be those areas above growing bigger and spreading out.
I wonder what percent of Muslims want sharia law . And will that be nesesary as there percentage in uk population grows.
And is sharia law a good thing
05 February 2017, 04:27 PM
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I have to agree again.
So is the future of multicultural britain going to be those areas above growing bigger and spreading out.
I wonder what percent of Muslims want sharia law . And will that be nesesary as there percentage in uk population grows.
And is sharia law a good thing
So is the future of multicultural britain going to be those areas above growing bigger and spreading out.
I wonder what percent of Muslims want sharia law . And will that be nesesary as there percentage in uk population grows.
And is sharia law a good thing
05 February 2017, 06:01 PM
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05 February 2017, 07:08 PM
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Muslims live by the Quraan and Sunnah. Not ideally by any rules or laws of government voted in by the majority of the uk .
Is that how the perfect multicultural society should be .
Its a deep train of thought that ive not got my head around tbh
Is that how the perfect multicultural society should be .
Its a deep train of thought that ive not got my head around tbh
05 February 2017, 07:33 PM
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Faith
scripture
christ
grace
god
Which ultimately boils down to being judged rightous in the eyes of god... ergo judgement day.
Seriously dude you should spend less time with your head in books and examine your humanity... because for someone who professes to be a christian... you don't show a great deal of christian charity towards others, your manner is aggressive... un forgiving and condescending... and have a somewhat superior attitude towards others.
Being well read is exactly that, nothing more, nothing less... or as I would say ... your head is full of someone elses $h!t.
06 February 2017, 01:21 AM
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Anyone wanting to understand Muslims better might find this interesting
https://islamqa.info/en
https://islamqa.info/en
Muslims are people... just like us non muslims... there are some good and some bad... I have met and hung out with people on both sides and to be honest I find muslims to be very friendly, hospitable and welcoming people, most are also very humble and respectful... traits which people from the western / christian world would do well to aspire to.
Looking for the differences in people and holding them up as something to abhore is obhorrent.
Be careful not to get any of the poison on your fingers as you may well end up poisoning yourself and those around you.
06 February 2017, 02:34 AM
#47
This is supposed to be a forum for car enthusiasts who all share the same interest in motor cars. I dont ask somebody their religion before deciding if i like their car or not or im willing to offer advice to them so threads like this that cause divide have no place here. There are plenty of other places to post these types of threads to like minded people, there should be an inbuilt filter on the site that blocks any religious content.
06 February 2017, 06:47 AM
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Lol, I'd say 90% of Muslims have probably never read something like that, much like 90% of christians have probably never read the Bible... but don't let that get in the way of a good bit of propaganda.
Muslims are people... just like us non muslims... there are some good and some bad... I have met and hung out with people on both sides and to be honest I find muslims to be very friendly, hospitable and welcoming people, most are also very humble and respectful... traits which people from the western / christian world would do well to aspire to.
Looking for the differences in people and holding them up as something to abhore is obhorrent.
Be careful not to get any of the poison on your fingers as you may well end up poisoning yourself and those around you.
Muslims are people... just like us non muslims... there are some good and some bad... I have met and hung out with people on both sides and to be honest I find muslims to be very friendly, hospitable and welcoming people, most are also very humble and respectful... traits which people from the western / christian world would do well to aspire to.
Looking for the differences in people and holding them up as something to abhore is obhorrent.
Be careful not to get any of the poison on your fingers as you may well end up poisoning yourself and those around you.
You seem to think the link i posted shows islam in a bad light . I didnt come to that conclusion.
06 February 2017, 06:49 AM
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This is supposed to be a forum for car enthusiasts who all share the same interest in motor cars. I dont ask somebody their religion before deciding if i like their car or not or im willing to offer advice to them so threads like this that cause divide have no place here. There are plenty of other places to post these types of threads to like minded people, there should be an inbuilt filter on the site that blocks any religious content.
06 February 2017, 07:22 AM
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This is supposed to be a forum for car enthusiasts who all share the same interest in motor cars. I dont ask somebody their religion before deciding if i like their car or not or im willing to offer advice to them so threads like this that cause divide have no place here. There are plenty of other places to post these types of threads to like minded people, there should be an inbuilt filter on the site that blocks any religious content.
But it'll never happen
06 February 2017, 08:12 AM
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Funny thing is a fair few of the people I've helped/replied to on this forum regarding issues, upgrading or just general subaru related questions dont want to give "Muslims" the time of the day. However are more than happy to take advice from one, the world is full of hypocrites and users!
06 February 2017, 08:33 AM
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This is supposed to be a forum for car enthusiasts who all share the same interest in motor cars. I dont ask somebody their religion before deciding if i like their car or not or im willing to offer advice to them so threads like this that cause divide have no place here. There are plenty of other places to post these types of threads to like minded people, there should be an inbuilt filter on the site that blocks any religious content.
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06 February 2017, 09:17 AM
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Well it has to do with the 5 solas.
Faith
scripture
christ
grace
god
Which ultimately boils down to being judged rightous in the eyes of god... ergo judgement day.
Seriously dude you should spend less time with your head in books and examine your humanity... because for someone who professes to be a christian... you don't show a great deal of christian charity towards others, your manner is aggressive... un forgiving and condescending... and have a somewhat superior attitude towards others.
Being well read is exactly that, nothing more, nothing less... or as I would say ... your head is full of someone elses $h!t.
Faith
scripture
christ
grace
god
Which ultimately boils down to being judged rightous in the eyes of god... ergo judgement day.
Seriously dude you should spend less time with your head in books and examine your humanity... because for someone who professes to be a christian... you don't show a great deal of christian charity towards others, your manner is aggressive... un forgiving and condescending... and have a somewhat superior attitude towards others.
Being well read is exactly that, nothing more, nothing less... or as I would say ... your head is full of someone elses $h!t.
06 February 2017, 10:24 AM
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Who's to say they're right... after all all of this religious stuff has been interpreted and re-interpreted... passed down through word of mouth... so how can anyone be sure what is and isn't correct... my opinion is as valid as any throughout history... if you really think about it.
06 February 2017, 10:38 AM
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Who's to say they're right... after all all of this religious stuff has been interpreted and re-interpreted... passed down through word of mouth... so how can anyone be sure what is and isn't correct... my opinion is as valid as any throughout history... if you really think about it. Now, do you understand justification and can you demonstrate it? Articulus stantis et cadentis ecclesiae. Think of it in terms of learning to crawl before you try to sprint.
06 February 2017, 10:59 AM
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No it's not and it's delusional to imagine it is. Perhaps if you took the time to study the work of those who've dedicated their life to theology you'd develop a rudimentary understanding of the subject you deride.
Now, do you understand justification and can you demonstrate it? Articulus stantis et cadentis ecclesiae. Think of it in terms of learning to crawl before you try to sprint.
Now, do you understand justification and can you demonstrate it? Articulus stantis et cadentis ecclesiae. Think of it in terms of learning to crawl before you try to sprint.
it's just theory... get it... my theory is it's a load of bollocks propagated by lazy rich fu@kers themselves to make it seem like they were actually doing something.
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06 February 2017, 11:15 AM
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Problem is who's version of their preferred religion is correct?
Most religions contradict themselves via one text vs another or passage vs another when read, so which is right?
Has to be said though, religion is responsible for alot of deaths through out the years, crusades, jihads, etc etc etc
Most religions contradict themselves via one text vs another or passage vs another when read, so which is right?
Has to be said though, religion is responsible for alot of deaths through out the years, crusades, jihads, etc etc etc
06 February 2017, 12:10 PM
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Problem is who's version of their preferred religion is correct?
Most religions contradict themselves via one text vs another or passage vs another when read, so which is right?
Has to be said though, religion is responsible for alot of deaths through out the years, crusades, jihads, etc etc etc
Most religions contradict themselves via one text vs another or passage vs another when read, so which is right?
Has to be said though, religion is responsible for alot of deaths through out the years, crusades, jihads, etc etc etc
06 February 2017, 12:17 PM
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No it's not and it's delusional to imagine it is. Perhaps if you took the time to study the work of those who've dedicated their life to theology you'd develop a rudimentary understanding of the subject you deride.
Now, do you understand justification and can you demonstrate it? Articulus stantis et cadentis ecclesiae. Think of it in terms of learning to crawl before you try to sprint.
Now, do you understand justification and can you demonstrate it? Articulus stantis et cadentis ecclesiae. Think of it in terms of learning to crawl before you try to sprint.
https://blogs.thegospelcoalition.org...uthers-saying/
