App while Obama was in charge the us bombed atleast 5 of the countries that trump has banned. Double standards.

Tbh whf has it got to do with the uk anyway. We need to look closer to home than start petitions about trump.

Petrol is soring in the uk. Not even a mention on the news. Its rose nearly 30p in the last yr while the barrel has plummeted

 

Sorry I was laughing at the hand wringing lefties and lost my way.
No one US president as called themselves "The Leader of The Free World", more misquoted bullsh@t.
Perhaps being muslim and being a native of a radical country (there are far more on the list who still have unfetted access) is like being Irish in the 60/70/80's.
But Obama is to blame.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattves...hoose-n2278021

 

Why exactly would these 'controls' not be in place already ??

its a daft stunt ( like we're used to ) , and the short sighted are lapping it up

 

Thing is they are in place, it takes months to get a visa if you're from any of the places on the list... as well as quite a few other countries like the one I'm in... Croatia, they have to make an appointment and go to the American Embassy in Zagreb and apply in person... those from the countries on the list are checked out by several agencies as well as having immediate family checked too before any visas are granted.

 

what evidence do you have there is currently inadequate vetting

 

I've been through the visa mill ( not me , my girl friend but it feels like me) several times last 5 years when she's needed go see family . She's on travel document .It's just about the most stressful thing ever.

 

How many "refugees" have been identified as suicide bombers or involved in gun attacks?

 

In the US ?

It's a minuscule number comp with begrudged teenager etc

 

Best let them in to commit a few terrorist atrocities first, then ban them? Good plan!

 

what - in the US?

my question is addressing the point that the US has inadequate vetting of "refugees"

I am simply asking for the evidence

do you or DD have any?

 

What'll be interesting to see is whether Trump can bridge the gap in plunging pop ratings with redneck supporters between raping them of their healthcare and producing car factories for them to work at , with all this hard core immigrant ****e

I somehow doubt it

 

That's precisely because he's NOT a politician..... and actually does what he says he's gonna do instead of the usual twisty turny slippery squirming of most "politicians"....

Where do we sign the petition to say I agree with Trump? - and I suspect that may get a lot more than a million signatures.....

And it seems to be working.... GM car plant now built in US instead of Mexico, pipeline agreed, but only if constructed with US Steel and US workers??....

God I sound like a rabid Trump fan, not really, but he does seem to be getting things done, and sometimes I wish we had someone with some b0ll0cks to stand up and say these things for the UK too.... how many companies/industries do we have left in the UK now?..... lets put our Country first for once.....

Amen ;o)

 

We did quite lot that in seventies and eighties .

Lot bloody good trying did

 

Sndnjhasmxl

 

Please note that the original post was not a comment on Trump's policies at home - I have mixed views on those - but simply to say that May had completely misjudged the fuss that will be made when Trump visits UK. That could well lead to Trump sulking and screwing up any embryonic deals that might be in the long pipeline. IMHO it would have been better if she had just hinted at a UK visit once things had settled down in US and, for example, when Buck House had been tarted up. Long grass job. I thought May would be OK but she isn't.


David

 

You would prefer Corbyn to be speaking for us then?

 

Yes and buck house needs a massive refurb I think

Still better get on with it , that stuff sells well to the Chinese

( Our closest trading partner after Donald now we're out of Europe)

 

Absolutely none whatsoever, but imho that's not the point. It's Trump's decision to make and it's not as unreasonable as all the hysteria would suggest.

If the UK decided to ban all immigration from places like Somalia, Yemen etc for 90 days because they felt there was even a 1% chance they could improve the vetting I wouldn't bat an eyelid. Actually they could ban it for a year and I wouldn't mind.

After all we are hardly looking to Somalia or Yemen as a source of highly skilled engineers or scientists are we? These are failed states where barbaric medieval acts like female genital mutilation are routinely carried out.

 

These are my views on Corbyn on a recent thread (in which you were posting )

"He's so bad at times that I almost feel sorry for him. But I could never support someone who has been so disloyal to his party. Voting against a few time is acceptable but 500 times

Plus he clearly couldn't organise a p,iss up at a brewery. He is just not "leader" material.

But a lot of what he says is genuine and a lot of citizens would have happier lives if he managed to get to grips with the disgusting gap between rich and poor whilst keeping the economy in reasonable shape. Just wishful thing I'm afraid plus my increasing dislike of May.

Bringing back David Miliband could help."


David

 

It would be far easier to believe that if it hadn't been implemented in such a slapdash, ***-about-face fashion.

 

Any where, who specified the US?

 

An interesting bit of jam to add to your sandwich.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.39931791485e

 

How on earth did I miss that? I usually hang on your every word!

 

well why make the point then

that Trump is entitled to do so is self evident - who says he isn't entitled I am certainly not

you just seem to be stating the obvious

so why do you think it is reasonable?

 

well the recent topic of conversation on this thread is about Trump decision to stop any immigration from 7 middle eastern states

 

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Where do we sign the petition to say I agree with Trump? - and I suspect that may get a lot more than a million signatures.....


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There is one. So far it has 130.000 signatures....


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Is every point you make backed up by independently verified peer reviewed evidence?


Why do I think it is reasonable? Because that's what Trump said he was going to do and the country elected him. So now I really will state the obvious.....that's called democracy. As imperfect as democracy is we don't have a better system.

And what are the downsides? Very little imo. As I said, countries like Yemen and Somalia are hardly going to provide the US with the next generation of software or green technology innovaters are they?

 

Sudan, Libya and Somalia are not middle eastern states.

 

I think anyone from anywhere could be the next champion in his field , what ever that maybe . To simply cutoff these places or anywhere because they "all be nogooders" is pretty appalling notion !

 

If you're stuck in freezing conditions in a refugee camp, you might be able to point to a few 'downsides'😀

btw Ding, how are you? It's been ages since we conversed.