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Old 15 January 2017, 07:06 PM
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I am waiting for the Trump Phantom and the Putin Trabant


But what about May? The Reliant Pathetic? The Robin Brexit PhuckUp?


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Old 15 January 2017, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by David Lock
I am waiting for the Trump Phantom and the Putin Trabant


But what about May? The Reliant Pathetic? The Robin Brexit PhuckUp?


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LOL
Old 15 January 2017, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Strange how the perceptions differ.

I don't essentially associate 'KAHN' branding to the chavness or deterioration in the prestige of the Range Rover vehicle.

Kahn Design is quite prestigious in itself. I think the currently perceived (by many as) a chav mobeel attempts to retain its classyness with the KAHN brand.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahn_Design
Nope, don't think anyone in the history of petrolheadism has ever said that sentence. Except possibly Mr Kahn himself but that really doesn't count, you can't have self proclaimed prestige.
Old 15 January 2017, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
Nope, don't think anyone in the history of petrolheadism has ever said that sentence. Except possibly Mr Kahn himself but that really doesn't count, you can't have self proclaimed prestige.
Well, I have. On the basis of them getting to design for some of the best car makers of the world, then. Such car makers must be bonkers. Also, I don't think the Kahn Design is most responsible to chav the classy motors up. It's the kind of people that are able to drive them these days get bigger credit for that.

Then again, I don't belong to the history of petroheadism. This petrolheadism has also attained the chavvy status of late. Classy speed lovers don't like to be called petrolhead any more. Not the ones I have come to know, anyway. How times change, eh.
Old 15 January 2017, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Well, I have. On the basis of them getting to design for some of the best car makers of the world, then. Such car makers must be bonkers. Also, I don't think the Kahn Design is most responsible to chav the classy motors up. It's the kind of people that are able to drive them these days get bigger credit for that.
I could be wrong but I don't think any of the Khan Designs stuff is actually endorsed by the car manufacturers, so they aren't designing 'for the car makers' as such.

As for who's responsible, that's really chicken and egg. Footballers couldn't buy tat from him if he didn't sell it. Though credit where it's due, I'm led to believe he's made a fortune out of selling said tasteless tat to footballers.
Old 15 January 2017, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
I could be wrong but I don't think any of the Khan Designs stuff is actually endorsed by the car manufacturers, so they aren't designing 'for the car makers' as such.

As for who's responsible, that's really chicken and egg. Footballers couldn't buy tat from him if he didn't sell it. Though credit where it's due, I'm led to believe he's made a fortune out of selling said tasteless tat to footballers.

It's not a chicken-and-egg situation, it's quite clear cut. Footballers are responsible for their taste. I'm sure no one can stuff a MaccyD burger in your mouth if you don't want one. Tat sells because it's bought by some. There are less chavvy cars available, but they prefer to buy Kahn. So, they do have other choices out there, but they prefer Kahn. They own their choice, Kahn just caters for it. Fair enough it might be Kahn presenting chav material on the plate to all-n-sundry, but as I say, footballers can reject it, if they like. They're not obliged to buy it.

I just heard on the news that a circus show in America is stopping after nearly 150 years of its existence. That's happening because of the plummeted ticket sales thus the circus unable to meet the costs. See, buyer can reject the product. But it will keep selling if people keep buying.
Old 16 January 2017, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
It's not a chicken-and-egg situation, it's quite clear cut. Footballers are responsible for their taste. I'm sure no one can stuff a MaccyD burger in your mouth if you don't want one. Tat sells because it's bought by some. There are less chavvy cars available, but they prefer to buy Kahn. So, they do have other choices out there, but they prefer Kahn. They own their choice, Kahn just caters for it. Fair enough it might be Kahn presenting chav material on the plate to all-n-sundry, but as I say, footballers can reject it, if they like. They're not obliged to buy it.

I just heard on the news that a circus show in America is stopping after nearly 150 years of its existence. That's happening because of the plummeted ticket sales thus the circus unable to meet the costs. See, buyer can reject the product. But it will keep selling if people keep buying.
It's very much chicken and egg. If the market doesn't sell it, you can't buy it. Bar short of going completely bespoke but then you'd have to find someone prepared to take it on.
Old 16 January 2017, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
It's not a chicken-and-egg situation, it's quite clear cut. Footballers are responsible for their taste. I'm sure no one can stuff a MaccyD burger in your mouth if you don't want one. Tat sells because it's bought by some. There are less chavvy cars available, but they prefer to buy Kahn. So, they do have other choices out there, but they prefer Kahn. They own their choice, Kahn just caters for it. Fair enough it might be Kahn presenting chav material on the plate to all-n-sundry, but as I say, footballers can reject it, if they like. They're not obliged to buy it.

I just heard on the news that a circus show in America is stopping after nearly 150 years of its existence. That's happening because of the plummeted ticket sales thus the circus unable to meet the costs. See, buyer can reject the product. But it will keep selling if people keep buying.
Footballers earn vasts amount of money. So much money they really don't know what to do with it. Some are quite sensible and invest / develop properties in their spare time (Robbie Fowler being a good example) but most buy stuff that's expensive, to show off their wealth. wealth doesn't mean taste.

Kahn appeals to those with too much cash. Kahn's additions for the RR's are Tat. It's expensive Tat, but Tat none the less. As said above, fair play to the bloke. He has found a niche in the market. Appeal to the rich and stupid.

I honestly think most people would see a Top of the range Range Rover Autobiography as a prestigious car. Smattered with Kahn sh1te would kill any sense of prestige out of the car in an instant.
Old 16 January 2017, 11:40 AM
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Always fancied a Range Rover with the gun cabinet and a set of Purdey's along with the picnic basket all done out in walnut, shame they've gone to the dogs with the chav image over the last 10yrs or so.

Saw a bright pink one in Nottingham over the christmas holidays, says it all really.
Old 16 January 2017, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Always fancied a Range Rover with the gun cabinet and a set of Purdey's along with the picnic basket all done out in walnut, shame they've gone to the dogs with the chav image over the last 10yrs or so.
Wasn't that Holland & Holland?
Old 16 January 2017, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
Wasn't that Holland & Holland?
Now that you mention it I think it was, saw one at one of the many gun/country fairs I used to go to back in my shooting days, Bloody gorgeous in green, fantastic quality of workmanship too, real feast to look at and appreciate every inch of.




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