If you could ask Jesus one question?
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Pointless asking, the Lord is all knowing and therefore already knows exactly what you are going to ask and will already have prepared a cryptic answer just to confound you.....the smug git!
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I would ask him to stop people on this site posting anything about religion.
Yet another boring diatribe from the self satisfied, smug, entrenched position,small-minded fundamentalists who revel in being holier-than-though.
Whatever you think about JC,I bet he had a more sophisticated sense of humour than any of them.
Yet another boring diatribe from the self satisfied, smug, entrenched position,small-minded fundamentalists who revel in being holier-than-though.
Whatever you think about JC,I bet he had a more sophisticated sense of humour than any of them.
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I would ask him to stop people on this site posting anything about religion.
Yet another boring diatribe from the self satisfied, smug, entrenched position,small-minded fundamentalists who revel in being holier-than-though.
Whatever you think about JC,I bet he had a more sophisticated sense of humour than any of them.
Yet another boring diatribe from the self satisfied, smug, entrenched position,small-minded fundamentalists who revel in being holier-than-though.
Whatever you think about JC,I bet he had a more sophisticated sense of humour than any of them.
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And would you still have told Billy Holiday the same joke back in the day when they were crucifying ******* and leaving them hanging as strange fruit? Or have the same giggle when IS crucify kids in Syria? The Jesus "joke" insults about half the world's population so what about a bit of respect to your fellow creatures.
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Kinda sums up the mental state of believers this doesn't it.. take a joke and become offended for the sake of it.
JTaylor are you offended?
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Luke 23:34 reminds me of how Jesus reacted to His torturers and killers and mockers. I'm to emulate Him.
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after all that's been written about the Christian wars all those yrs ago. If Jesus did actually exist, surely their would of been something written down to prove it.
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I don’t want to get to pedantic (he says before being pedantic)
But the concept of “proof” in these types of discussions is often misunderstood
So you can’t “prove” he did or didn’t exist in the same way you can’t prove evolution does or doesn’t exist or even the earth is older than 5000 years old
What you can say is “based a consilience of multiple lines of evidence “so and so” is more than likely true"
And on that definition I think the evidence suggest an historical person called Jesus did exist and so did at least some events as portrayed in the bible – The King Herod census etc
and if you take an opposing view - you have to demonstrate why the evidence is flawed and also (in the realms of science) put forward an opposing position that explains ALL the evidence
But the concept of “proof” in these types of discussions is often misunderstood
So you can’t “prove” he did or didn’t exist in the same way you can’t prove evolution does or doesn’t exist or even the earth is older than 5000 years old
What you can say is “based a consilience of multiple lines of evidence “so and so” is more than likely true"
And on that definition I think the evidence suggest an historical person called Jesus did exist and so did at least some events as portrayed in the bible – The King Herod census etc
and if you take an opposing view - you have to demonstrate why the evidence is flawed and also (in the realms of science) put forward an opposing position that explains ALL the evidence
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I can see your point in that sense. If he did exist he was probably just a prophet or someone that people looked up to. But I can't believe that he had healing powers or the power to heal by just touching someone.
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I don’t want to get to pedantic (he says before being pedantic)
But the concept of “proof” in these types of discussions is often misunderstood
So you can’t “prove” he did or didn’t exist in the same way you can’t prove evolution does or doesn’t exist or even the earth is older than 5000 years old
What you can say is “based a consilience of multiple lines of evidence “so and so” is more than likely true"
And on that definition I think the evidence suggest an historical person called Jesus did exist and so did at least some events as portrayed in the bible – The King Herod census etc
and if you take an opposing view - you have to demonstrate why the evidence is flawed and also (in the realms of science) put forward an opposing position that explains ALL the evidence
But the concept of “proof” in these types of discussions is often misunderstood
So you can’t “prove” he did or didn’t exist in the same way you can’t prove evolution does or doesn’t exist or even the earth is older than 5000 years old
What you can say is “based a consilience of multiple lines of evidence “so and so” is more than likely true"
And on that definition I think the evidence suggest an historical person called Jesus did exist and so did at least some events as portrayed in the bible – The King Herod census etc
and if you take an opposing view - you have to demonstrate why the evidence is flawed and also (in the realms of science) put forward an opposing position that explains ALL the evidence
You're confusing science with oral traditions and texts that have been many times rewritten and re-interpreted. A good question might be: If they existed why didn't Jesus, or for that matter Buddha and Mohammed, write down a single word themselves? Perhaps they couldn't read or write, instead relying on the debatable memories of acolytes, with their personal biases and interpretations. Not good preparation if God had a hand in their words.
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You're confusing science with oral traditions and texts that have been many times rewritten and re-interpreted. A good question might be: If they existed why didn't Jesus, or for that matter Buddha and Mohammed, write down a single word themselves? Perhaps they couldn't read or write, instead relying on the debatable memories of acolytes, with their personal biases and interpretations. Not good preparation if God had a hand in their words.
my reply was about the concept of proof - using science was just an example
there seems to be documentary evidence for an historical figure called jesus
proof - NO
evidence - YES
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I don’t want to get to pedantic (he says before being pedantic)
But the concept of “proof” in these types of discussions is often misunderstood
So you can’t “prove” he did or didn’t exist in the same way you can’t prove evolution does or doesn’t exist or even the earth is older than 5000 years old
What you can say is “based a consilience of multiple lines of evidence “so and so” is more than likely true"
And on that definition I think the evidence suggest an historical person called Jesus did exist and so did at least some events as portrayed in the bible – The King Herod census etc
and if you take an opposing view - you have to demonstrate why the evidence is flawed and also (in the realms of science) put forward an opposing position that explains ALL the evidence
But the concept of “proof” in these types of discussions is often misunderstood
So you can’t “prove” he did or didn’t exist in the same way you can’t prove evolution does or doesn’t exist or even the earth is older than 5000 years old
What you can say is “based a consilience of multiple lines of evidence “so and so” is more than likely true"
And on that definition I think the evidence suggest an historical person called Jesus did exist and so did at least some events as portrayed in the bible – The King Herod census etc
and if you take an opposing view - you have to demonstrate why the evidence is flawed and also (in the realms of science) put forward an opposing position that explains ALL the evidence
As much as that image is good for a chuckle, he's wrong.