So Brexit seems to be a good thing then.
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Out of interest, how much does Holland spend yearly on Foreign Aid?
How is your 52% calculated?
The UK's problem is not raising money, it's how it's spent. They waste £billions a year, they spend ages denying that there is any money for anything Joe Public wants, but can find money for foreign wars, foreign aid, Northern Ireland as a sweetener and now replacing all flammable cladding on all tower blocks, at the drop of a hat.
Is there, then, any wonder that the UK public, seeing this and seeing them CONSTANTLY say "we can't afford it", says, "ENOUGH!!!"
How is your 52% calculated?
The UK's problem is not raising money, it's how it's spent. They waste £billions a year, they spend ages denying that there is any money for anything Joe Public wants, but can find money for foreign wars, foreign aid, Northern Ireland as a sweetener and now replacing all flammable cladding on all tower blocks, at the drop of a hat.
Is there, then, any wonder that the UK public, seeing this and seeing them CONSTANTLY say "we can't afford it", says, "ENOUGH!!!"
The fact is, the UK chooses how much money to collect and where to spend it. On the grand scheme of things the EU is pretty cheap, so leaving the EU doesn't really save any significant amount of money that can be spent elsewhere. UK is really a bit of a tax haven within the EU. Corporation tax is incredibly low and personal income tax is also very low. In Germany, I pay around 40-45% income tax and corporation tax is significantly higher than the UK, yet it is still the largest economy within the EU! We have all the hospitals, schools and public services we need here and the people are genuinely happy in their lives. People will generally accept higher taxes if they can see the community benefits from it.
The problem is, the UK is going in the same direction of thinking as the US. Pay nothing and its every man for themselves. If you can't afford it, tough **** - work harder! ... or buy a gun, and take it from someone else!
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I did not come up with the tax bracket of 52%....the government did. See my previous email at 0828 for the tax breakdown
I notice the tax brackets here because I am not a moron.
Well considering they spend 1% on foreign aid then it is roughly $5.81 billion total; $338.38 per capita.
The UK spend $18.70 billion; $284.85 per capita.
I notice the tax brackets here because I am not a moron.
Well considering they spend 1% on foreign aid then it is roughly $5.81 billion total; $338.38 per capita.
The UK spend $18.70 billion; $284.85 per capita.
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As far as the NHS is concerned, we need to cut down on two things before throwing ANY more money at it.
1. Waste: protected sources for where they buy stuff, fully trained nurses sitting beside consultants doing what amounts to clerical work at day clinics, too many middle managers with too many luxurious offices, etc etc
2. Allowing all and sundry to use it without charging, whether or not they live here.
1. Waste: protected sources for where they buy stuff, fully trained nurses sitting beside consultants doing what amounts to clerical work at day clinics, too many middle managers with too many luxurious offices, etc etc
2. Allowing all and sundry to use it without charging, whether or not they live here.
ask any health professional and they will confirm that poor people take up most resources in the NHs, from primary care to acute care to everything in between - and they pay least into it
simple
your welcome
no, the answer is simple - stop poor people from using the NHS
ask any health professional and they will confirm that poor people take up most resources in the NHs, from primary care to acute care to everything in between - and they pay least into it
simple
your welcome
ask any health professional and they will confirm that poor people take up most resources in the NHs, from primary care to acute care to everything in between - and they pay least into it
simple
your welcome
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I have a friend who works in a manufacturer of furniture who source their wood from Norway and Sweden and he still cannot fathom how this customs fallout may affect his profession........ Seriously, the more I speak to Brexiteers and Pro-Trump people the more I see they are one and the same.
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A lot of people in manufacturing, and beyond, will be at risk of losing their jobs over this.
I have a friend who works in a manufacturer of furniture who source their wood from Norway and Sweden and he still cannot fathom how this customs fallout may affect his profession........ Seriously, the more I speak to Brexiteers and Pro-Trump people the more I see they are one and the same.
I have a friend who works in a manufacturer of furniture who source their wood from Norway and Sweden and he still cannot fathom how this customs fallout may affect his profession........ Seriously, the more I speak to Brexiteers and Pro-Trump people the more I see they are one and the same.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-44232269
Mind boggles...... "hey fckers...we don't want to be in the EU but please, please, please, let us continue to have all the access to EU-member-only programmes that suits us"
Mind boggles...... "hey fckers...we don't want to be in the EU but please, please, please, let us continue to have all the access to EU-member-only programmes that suits us"
Read the wording:
"Let's give it to the NHS instead"
ie: Let us....., an idea, NOT a promise.
The lies are from your side as always.
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You lot really are dim.
Since when do the words, "Let's.." preceding something mean that it is fixed and WILL BE DONE?
It denotes a wish to do something.
I think I'll leave you all to go back to your cry-baby whining.
Since when do the words, "Let's.." preceding something mean that it is fixed and WILL BE DONE?
It denotes a wish to do something.
I think I'll leave you all to go back to your cry-baby whining.
That's right; now that the Brexiteers have dragged us into this freaking morass of expense, additional bureaucracy and uncertainty they just want to toddle off to go find some sand to bury their heads in.
And they think WE'RE dim.
And they think WE'RE dim.
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You know damn well it wasn't a wish to do something. It was a cynical ploy to sway undecided voters. The suggestion was dismissed out of hand within hours of the result. The fact that you still continue to defend this blatant manipulation means that you're the one thats dim.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-44232269
Mind boggles...... "hey fckers...we don't want to be in the EU but please, please, please, let us continue to have all the access to EU-member-only programmes that suits us"
Mind boggles...... "hey fckers...we don't want to be in the EU but please, please, please, let us continue to have all the access to EU-member-only programmes that suits us"
They don't ignore it, they have a lower rate of 10% for renovations. The UK has several zero-rated goods which all other countries in the EU (apart from Ireland) do not, for example food, water supplies, books, and pharmaceuticals.
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DeXEU have just released a paper setting out our negotiating priorities (I won't bother linking to it, it will hit the media in the next couple of days)
But laughably (and predictably) it sets out all the reasons the EU/SM/CU is such a great idea (frictionless trade etc) and the UK wants to replicate it, but without any of the cost\obligations
It is delusional nonsense off course, just more cherry picking cakeism
Defending brexit is like trying to defend the flat earth theory - you really need to just "believe"
But laughably (and predictably) it sets out all the reasons the EU/SM/CU is such a great idea (frictionless trade etc) and the UK wants to replicate it, but without any of the cost\obligations
It is delusional nonsense off course, just more cherry picking cakeism
Defending brexit is like trying to defend the flat earth theory - you really need to just "believe"
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Latest statement I can find:
Certificates issued before the withdrawal date by the competent authorities of the United Kingdom on the basis of the provisions of the Basic Regulation and its implementing rules will no longer be valid as of the withdrawal date in the EU. This concerns in particular:
Certificates of airworthiness, restricted certificates of airworthiness, permits to fly, approvals of organisations responsible for the maintenance of products, parts and appliances, approvals for organisations responsible for the manufacture of products, parts and appliances, approvals for maintenance training organisations, and certificates for personnel responsible for the release of a product, part or appliance after maintenance, issued pursuant to Article 5 of the Basic Regulation;
Pilot licences, pilot medical certificates, certificates for pilot training organisations, certificates for aero-medical centres, certificates for flight simulation training devices, certificates for persons responsible for providing flight training, flight simulation training or assessing pilots' skill, and certificates for aero medical examiners, issued pursuant to Article 7 of the Basic Regulation;
Certificates for air operators and attestations for the cabin crew, issued pursuant to Article 8 of the Basic Regulation;
Certificates for aerodromes, certificates for ATM/ANS providers, licences and medical certificates for air traffic controllers, certificates for air traffic controller training organisations, certificates for aero medical centres and aero medical examiners responsible for air traffic controllers, certificates for persons
etc
So after reading that, unless an agreement is reached, UK airspace will become inaccessible and that includes overflights. Can't see that being able to happen, too much money at stake for all parties.
Certificates issued before the withdrawal date by the competent authorities of the United Kingdom on the basis of the provisions of the Basic Regulation and its implementing rules will no longer be valid as of the withdrawal date in the EU. This concerns in particular:
Certificates of airworthiness, restricted certificates of airworthiness, permits to fly, approvals of organisations responsible for the maintenance of products, parts and appliances, approvals for organisations responsible for the manufacture of products, parts and appliances, approvals for maintenance training organisations, and certificates for personnel responsible for the release of a product, part or appliance after maintenance, issued pursuant to Article 5 of the Basic Regulation;
Pilot licences, pilot medical certificates, certificates for pilot training organisations, certificates for aero-medical centres, certificates for flight simulation training devices, certificates for persons responsible for providing flight training, flight simulation training or assessing pilots' skill, and certificates for aero medical examiners, issued pursuant to Article 7 of the Basic Regulation;
Certificates for air operators and attestations for the cabin crew, issued pursuant to Article 8 of the Basic Regulation;
Certificates for aerodromes, certificates for ATM/ANS providers, licences and medical certificates for air traffic controllers, certificates for air traffic controller training organisations, certificates for aero medical centres and aero medical examiners responsible for air traffic controllers, certificates for persons
etc
So after reading that, unless an agreement is reached, UK airspace will become inaccessible and that includes overflights. Can't see that being able to happen, too much money at stake for all parties.
I felt tempted to call them out on it basically asking if they really thought this was going to be allowed to happen as the repercussions for the airline industry as a whole would be horrific, but I'd guess my post would be removed. Clearly a cheap shot scare story marketing campaign, but if it pulls them in a few more punters, then fair game. Doesn't say much for the intelligence of somebody who's willing to shell out £60k+ on a frozen ATPL if there are going to be very few aircraft to fly in, around and through UK airspace though
Dublin to Amsterdam flight anyone......
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^^^^ don't be a tool. How can you not expect it to end? If you leave your company do you still expect them to let you use their office, use their phones, computers, cars etc?
The EU member states are granted access to EU programs. If you are not an EU member state you cannot seriously expect to still use these programs
The EU member states are granted access to EU programs. If you are not an EU member state you cannot seriously expect to still use these programs
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By leaving the EU, you are no longer a partner in all the agreements that the EU has made over the last 40 years. The reality of taking back control is starting from zero. In some areas, deals can be done with the EU to maintain the status quo, in other areas it just won't be possible.
Taking a soft Brexit such as the Norway model then pretty much nothing will change! Taking a hard Brexit and leaving the customs union, then we no longer abide by the EU rules and a lot more changes.
The Brexit negotiations will determine exactly what stays the same or what has to change. Much will come down to how much we're prepared to still contribute to the EU budget or whatever else we can offer that the EU would like from us e.g. access to fisheries!
Things would be a lot easier if the government hadn't triggered article 50 before deciding what it actually wants. Instead, they triggered article 50 way too early, had a needless general election and still don't know what they want, all the time we're getting ever closer to leaving and with no agreements, then we really do go back to square one with less trading agreements than North Korea!
This notion that we're being punished by the EU is just pure Brexiteer propaganda! We chose to leave, we have to live with the reality of what that means!
