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I voted to stay in but after reading this new blackmail attempt from the EU I would not give them any of the stupid cash they are after and just take our chances with global trading rules as the EU also needs to give us permission before we can set up a trade agreement with any other country outside of the EU.
They are saying no trade agreement unless they allow migrants to have full citizen rights all the way thru the transition period.
aren't they saying we can negotiate new trade agreements, but they can't come into force whilst we are part of the SM and CU
the fact that we would not be allowed to have a working bilateral FTA with a third country and yet still be in the EU CU is obvious to anyone with even the simplest grasp of international trade law
and the EU have been pretty consistent in that we cannot enjoy the advantages of the SM without respecting the 4 freedoms
and during the transition we will enjoy the benefit's
I voted to stay in but after reading this new blackmail attempt from the EU I would not give them any of the stupid cash they are after and just take our chances with global trading rules as the EU also needs to give us permission before we can set up a trade agreement with any other country outside of the EU.
It's got nothing to do with 'permission' Steve. It's the treaty that we signed up to.
The UK government have spent 8 hours yesterday coming up the a “cunning plan” – well 2 out of 10 for awareness on the need for a plan
This cunning plan is known officially as “managed divergence” to anyone without a mental illness it is known as “cherry picking” and "cake and eat it" bollox
But as any sentient snetter will know – as it was endlessly discussed on the EUreferendum thread, this is simply delusional nonsense
So no surprise that less than 12 hrs later the EU respond thus
““I am glad the UK government seems to be moving towards a more detailed position. However if the media reports are correct I am afraid the UK position today is based on pure illusion. It looks like the cake [and eat it] philosophy is still alive.
“From the very start it has been a set principle of the EU27 that there cannot be any cherrypicking of single market à la carte. This will continue to be a key principle, I have no doubt.”
slides 29 and 30 are interesting - especially for the car industry in the NE
on exit
UK leaves the EU's integrated regulatory and supervisory
system
• UK Type-Approval authority no longer an EU authority:
Can no longer issue new approvals or revisions/extensions of
existing approvals (loss of competence under EU law)
Can no longer perform any supervisory functions or activities in
relation to existing approvals (e.g. conformity of production,
implementation of corrective measures resulting from market
surveillance)
● End of recognition of UK Type-Approvals – no mutual recognition
just sit back – take your time and digest the above
for clarity
CARS MADE IN THE UK WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE SOLD IN THE EU - FULL ****ING STOP
Last edited by hodgy0_2; Feb 23, 2018 at 08:53 PM.
to add there is a similar one (google "EU notice to stakeholder") on the transport/haulage industry that simply states that the licence to operate a road haulage business in the EU will cease on midnight 29th March 2019
to add there is a similar one (google "EU notice to stakeholder") on the transport/haulage industry that simply states that the licence to operate a road haulage business in the EU will cease on midnight 29th March 2019
The key issue is a hapless government desparately trying to stitch together at least 4 different visions of Brexit (from various factions with the Tory Party). The hopeless PM knows there's not a majority in the Commons for any of these options.
A really great negotiation position, it is not.
It's hard to see how the government will not fall over this.
Last edited by Martin2005; Feb 23, 2018 at 11:08 PM.
The key issue is a hapless government desparately trying to stitch together at least 4 different visions of Brexit (from various factions with the Tory Party). The hopeless PM knows there's not a majority in the Commons for any of these options.
A really great negotiation position, it is not.
It's hard to see how the government will not fall over this.
The simple fact is these cockwombles are still trying to work out how you draw a four sided triangle
Why are these 'officials' relying on the Daily Mail (et al)?
Again just a load of huff and puff from both sides with the media clamouring to put their own opinionistic skew on it.
We won't be allowed to have any form of deal with the EU that simultaneously allows us to have our own individual deals with non-EU countries without some sort of tariffs or sanction (and therefore not free trade etc). End of. That's an opinion by the way. Something lost and confused with fact within many media outlets.
I'm going to even be more scathing, if as a result of this madness we end up with Corbyn as PM.
It's heading that way.
However I do believe he won't achieve anywhere near what he envisages, as the Lords will block as much of it as possible (unless he finds a way to disband or circumvent it).
'The many' (not the few) are a highly impatient bunch and will be revolting within a few months of Corbyn becoming prime minister.
