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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Does that imply lib/lab pact and or snp ?

i thought labour had ruled out anything like that

Not sure about Lab, but the Libs have (although i'm sure that will change after the results are in....)
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
Although, in either case, I don't really accept a GE result as a mandate for any kind of Brexit or remaining as a GE is not fought on a single issue. Whoever wins, should put any deal/no deal and remain back to the public in a referendum to ensure that the public really accept the deal.
I'd disagree with that, this election will be won or lost over our continued, or not, EU membership, no matter how much the parties try to make it about other issues.I wouldn't like to call it in any direction to be honest, I wasn't expecting to see or here from our MP for another few years, so maybe he'll be roaming the streets again shortly.
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by albob
Not sure about Lab, but the Libs have (although i'm sure that will change after the results are in....)
This in spades...the whiff of power will be too much for them to resist.
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 03:40 PM
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I think they've learnt from last time.
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by albob
Not sure about Lab, but the Libs have (although i'm sure that will change after the results are in....)
I don't care, as long as they stop Brexit
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
I think they've learnt from last time.
I sincerely hope so.

Gina Miller is apparently setting up a website that helps people vote tactically...not sure when it goes live.
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 05:24 PM
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Certainly not with the tories anyway !
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by trails
I sincerely hope so.

Gina Miller is apparently setting up a website that helps people vote tactically...not sure when it goes live.
This?

Tactical Vote?

Popped up on my Facebook this morning. A friend posted it, not sure if it is the same thing?

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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Torquemada
This?

Tactical Vote?

Popped up on my Facebook this morning. A friend posted it, not sure if it is the same thing?
Looks to be the right one, certainly confirms which candidate I thought I would be voting for
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by trails
Looks to be the right one, certainly confirms which candidate I thought I would be voting for
Yeah, for me in my old gaff (West Byfleet, near Woking, Surrey) it tells me I should be voting Lib Dem.
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 07:39 PM
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Same here , funny that
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 08:49 PM
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I can see a pattern emerging
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ^Qwerty^
I'd disagree with that, this election will be won or lost over our continued, or not, EU membership, no matter how much the parties try to make it about other issues.I wouldn't like to call it in any direction to be honest, I wasn't expecting to see or here from our MP for another few years, so maybe he'll be roaming the streets again shortly.
Utter bullhocks.
This is a GE, not the third EU membership referendum.

This GE will be decided on whether we want another 5 years of Tory incompetence, economic mismanagement, c@ck ups and austerity, or not.

Boris is trying to hide behind the Brexit fig leaf but in the end, in a 6 week campaign, the state of the country is what will come to the fore.

This is why this is Boris's biggest gamble. He needs this election to be about Brexit.

He knows if the country examines the Tories on their record then the country will do what we've always done at times like this: vote to kick out the current government.
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Old Oct 31, 2019 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by trails

Gina Miller is apparently setting up a website that helps people vote tactically...not sure when it goes live.
I thought Gina Miller said she was impartial?
She was on QT saying she only campaigned against what she saw was illegal
Does she have a site for tactical voting for Brexit?
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Old Oct 31, 2019 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SouthWalesSam
Utter bullhocks.
This is a GE, not the third EU membership referendum.

This GE will be decided on whether we want another 5 years of Tory incompetence, economic mismanagement, c@ck ups and austerity, or not.

Boris is trying to hide behind the Brexit fig leaf but in the end, in a 6 week campaign, the state of the country is what will come to the fore.

This is why this is Boris's biggest gamble. He needs this election to be about Brexit.

He knows if the country examines the Tories on their record then the country will do what we've always done at times like this: vote to kick out the current government.
Whilst i agree with your sentiment that was a bit harsh Sam...it's going to be impossible to ignore each parties stance on the EU and naive to believe it isn't going to be the driving force behind people's choice during this GE.
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Old Oct 31, 2019 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
I thought Gina Miller said she was impartial?
She was on QT saying she only campaigned against what she saw was illegal
Does she have a site for tactical voting for Brexit?
People are untrustworthy eh Felix...pragmatism says at least this is for the greater good rather then just to keep her current job
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Old Oct 31, 2019 | 09:48 AM
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Happy Halloween Brexteers!
**** all else happening today
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Old Oct 31, 2019 | 10:07 AM
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Maybe cummings will get a stake through the heart
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Old Oct 31, 2019 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Maybe cummings will get a stake through the heart
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Old Oct 31, 2019 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by trails
Whilst i agree with your sentiment that was a bit harsh Sam...it's going to be impossible to ignore each parties stance on the EU and naive to believe it isn't going to be the driving force behind people's choice during this GE.
No, Brexit is the sideshow, though Boris wants to make it the main event.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, @Trails.
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Old Oct 31, 2019 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthWalesSam
No, Brexit is the sideshow, though Boris wants to make it the main event.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, @Trails.
Perhaps it should be a sideshow, but it isn't...it will be interesting to see what kind of attendance there is at the polling stations and what proportion of spoilt papers there are in comparison to previous GEs.

No drama Sam, you are normally pretty sensible so I'll let you off...on this occasion only
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Old Oct 31, 2019 | 12:58 PM
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I'll be using this GE as a proxy vote on Brexit and so will a lot of others I know of, like it or loath it, that's the way it is. Governments come and go but EU membership status is permanent. No point in voting Labour as they don't have a stance on Brexit. What sort of a deal could they get when there is a possibility that they will end up campaign against their own "negotiated" deal? Most likely we'll end up with another hung parliament and the GE will have done nothing but add more uncertainty and division leaving the country in limbo yet again.....
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Old Oct 31, 2019 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthWalesSam
Utter bullhocks.
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No need to be rude, but if you read people's posts on social media, if you read any news outlet, if you listen to radio phone in's, this election will be about Brexit regardless of if you like it as an individual or not.
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Originally Posted by trails
People are untrustworthy eh Felix...
Very true, I think that's why a lot will vote for Boris - better the devil you know.......
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Better to side with certain economic turmoil through no deal ??
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Old Oct 31, 2019 | 10:34 PM
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Ah, but how can I trust people who are saying such things?
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Old Oct 31, 2019 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
Very true, I think that's why a lot will vote for Boris - better the devil you know.......
De Pfeffel certainly comes across as charismatic...if you have been living on Mars

We will see before too long. I should imagine there will be a bit of interesting tattoo flash for the election results. Friday 13th is a lucky day for tattooists and they normally celebrate by creating classic/topical designs for one day only. Leftfield I guess
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Old Nov 1, 2019 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Better to side with certain economic turmoil through no deal ??
And who do you suggest as an alternative?

Labour - One minute they are recruiting 10,000 police (costing £300,000) then suddenly its 25,000 costing £80m. They will also negotiate a brexit deal and vote against their own deal in the commons.

Lib Dem - Tuition fess, Chuka Umunna who changes his mind daily
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Old Nov 1, 2019 | 08:55 AM
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ok...is the parties current positions:

Tories - Brexit with or without a deal
Labour - 2nd referendum
Lib Dem - stop Brexit

Or am I wrong?
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Old Nov 1, 2019 | 09:26 AM
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seems correct to me...as usual if choosing the lesser evil.
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