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Old 01 October 2016, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Toffee Pie's been in the Apple store he was heard screaming "Rubbish Battery, Rubbish Screen, Rubbish Specs, iSheep" Not thought to be related to terrorism.

I think he's p!ssed off because there are no sockets on any of those devices for his headphones. Understandable really.
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Plenty of reasons to be pissed off with over priced iPhones.

http://www.ibtimes.com/iphone-7-ipho...tivity-2424259

http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/...phone-7-7-plus

Apple will probably enter the 21st century in 2017 with proper hi res displays and maybe even wireless charging, meanwhile Samsung will probably have even sharper 4k displays to go along with the VR headsets on the S8 along with UFS storage.

Apple has always lagged behind the times, I think even the Galaxy S5 had a full hd display, not even the iPhone 7 has one.
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You're a victim of marketing my friend.
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Originally Posted by dpb
You're a victim of marketing my friend.
And accusations of iSheepery in 5..4..3...
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Originally Posted by toffee_pie
Plenty of reasons to be pissed off with over priced iPhones.

http://www.ibtimes.com/iphone-7-ipho...tivity-2424259

http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/...phone-7-7-plus

Apple will probably enter the 21st century in 2017 with proper hi res displays and maybe even wireless charging, meanwhile Samsung will probably have even sharper 4k displays to go along with the VR headsets on the S8 along with UFS storage.

Apple has always lagged behind the times, I think even the Galaxy S5 had a full hd display, not even the iPhone 7 has one.
You are brainwashed. When it comes to everyday technology being able to shout "First" isn't often best, it's easy to add bigger batteries and a few more - dirty - pixels. It's easy to convince people they have epic battery life using guesses. But it's not easy to get everything to balance, Apple are brilliant at getting the balance right, entirely due to the walled garden that you're afraid of.

You may not want to start ***** waving issues you've seen on the internet, at least not until the fire at Samsung has stopped burning. Trying to check in today for a flight and advised not to fly with a Samsung Phone! Can you imagine if Apple had pushed battery technology over the edge like that?
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In case you think I'm making it up.

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Originally Posted by dpb
You're a victim of marketing my friend.
that is iSheep you meant, they are the ones being mugged, Its Apple who are flogging off over priced under performing devices. Apple had a good chance to up the ante on Samsung this year but went on to launch the iPhone 7, even Jack here probably sees no sense to buy this over the iPhone 6. And if he wont buy it.....

http://www.valuewalk.com/2016/10/iph...-7-comparison/

I had a look at the 'new' features in iOS10 and most of them are not anyway new to anyone who uses a new Android device.

https://blogs.which.co.uk/technology...ery-life-test/

iPhone 7 finishes last in our battery life tests
BY CALLUM TENNENT ON 30/09/2016



and my battery life.

going pretty handy.


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Originally Posted by JackClark
You are brainwashed. When it comes to everyday technology being able to shout "First" isn't often best, it's easy to add bigger batteries and a few more - dirty - pixels. It's easy to convince people they have epic battery life using guesses. But it's not easy to get everything to balance, Apple are brilliant at getting the balance right, entirely due to the walled garden that you're afraid of.

You may not want to start ***** waving issues you've seen on the internet, at least not until the fire at Samsung has stopped burning. Trying to check in today for a flight and advised not to fly with a Samsung Phone! Can you imagine if Apple had pushed battery technology over the edge like that?
Getting your knickers in a twist here, My S7 Edge has a bigger battery than the Note 7, and uses the same fast charge IC and the same wireless charging. Likewise my Note 5 also had one of them bad boy batteries and that is since sold onto a happy new owner.

Number of times fire bridge in Southamtpon called to my gaff? > 0

The Note 7 had a battery manufacturing fault, nothing to do with Samsung design itself and its still in as much demand as ever when it will be re launched.

Large displays with bigger resolutions is the way things are going Jack.

the days people squince to look at tiny iPhone screens is finished.

Even the largest display on the iPhone 7 plus is full hd, welcome to the Galaxy S5 Jack.

why would I pay almost £1k for one of these iPhones with 256GB of ram, if doesnt even have fast charge or wireless charging enabled.

Only idiots easy parted with money will pay that kinda money.
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You have real trouble with Graphs. See that dip? That's you using it, i.e. hardly at all but would destroy the battery if you carried on. Cell Standby is second only to Android itself in the usage charts. Are you really that much of a mug. The rest of us are sat here thinking normal and your'e in the pub showing your graph to your mates, LOL.

Can you start blabbing about specs again please, mix it up a bit.
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can you explain why the iphone 7 is so terrible so Jack. You clearly have everything aced.

The S7 Edge like mine has a QHD display so even the iPhone 7 could surely mustard better better since it doesnt even have as large a display to manage.

Maybe that A10 Processor that hisses like a snake is a bit too powerful for its own good, hang on I thought Apple had a grasp of when to use technology and when not.

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I will just call this out since I dont think Jack's browser enables him to open linkys

Whilst the iPhone 7’s 712 minutes of call time (nearly 12 hours) may sound acceptable, the rival Samsung Galaxy S7 lasted twice as long – and it doesn’t even have the longest lasting battery. The HTC 10 lasted an incredible 1,859 minutes (that’s almost 31 hours).

When it comes to internet browsing time, arguably the more important measurement, the results were a lot closer. Close, but the iPhone 7 still came bottom. The 615 minutes of battery life offered by the iPhone 7 is 25 minutes less than its nearest rival, the LG G5, and 175 minutes less than the top performing HTC 10. In fact, the HTC 10’s 3G internet browsing time was even longer than the iPhone 7’s 3G call time. It doesn’t make for pretty reading for Apple.



Battery life, however, is poor. Using it as my primary device with three hours of app usage and browsing, hundreds of emails and push notifications, a couple of photos, five hours of music over Bluetooth headphones and the odd game of Jetpack Joyride during my one hour and 20 minute train commute to and from work, it lasted an average of just over 14 hours between charges, meaning it didn’t survive past 9.30pm.

Rather than having better battery life in my testing, the iPhone 7 has worse battery life than the iPhone 6S when new. No single app caused significant battery drain, I do not have the Facebook app installed and Low Power Mode made no appreciable difference in my testing when enabled at 20%.

If I had needed it to navigate me home or snap some pictures at night I would have to make sure I did a good charge before leaving the office. If I used it for maps for any walking or driving, battery life was much shorter.

To get through 24 hours, you’ll be forced to have a power adapter close by, shove it in a battery pack or charge at your desk, which means you won’t be able listen to music at the same time via cabled headphones – more on that later.

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...r-battery-life


To make matters worse, the iPhone 7 has the worst of all worlds: short battery life and tediously slow charging. Even using the 12W charger that came with the iPad Pro it took well over two hours to fully charge the iPhone 7.
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2 pints down at a guess.

Probably Ringwood old thumper

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Old 02 October 2016, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
You have real trouble with Graphs. See that dip? That's you using it, i.e. hardly at all but would destroy the battery if you carried on. Cell Standby is second only to Android itself in the usage charts. Are you really that much of a mug. The rest of us are sat here thinking normal and your'e in the pub showing your graph to your mates, LOL.

Can you start blabbing about specs again please, mix it up a bit.
Daft thing is that whole argument could be put to bed if he simply posted the whole battery history graph i.e. the one that that actually shows device activity underneath the battery graph. Like so (not my phone by the way);




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2 pints down at a guess.

Probably Ringwood old thumper
Ooooh now there's a good beer
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Should 'spark' this nutty thread into life again:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.tel...p-reports/amp/

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Yeah, it was pretty surreal seeing the many millions Samsung had spent plastering Hong Kong and especially the airport with adverts for the Note 7 countered by advertising by the airlines about the fire risk!!
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Originally Posted by joz8968
Should 'spark' this nutty thread into life again:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.tel...p-reports/amp/

BREAKING NEWS: Samsung infiltrated by ISIS!
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It's a good thing the iPhone doesn't require one them Big batteries
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Toffee's quiet ...!

Fallen on his sword presumably
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Nothing to do with the size of the battery, it's a manufacturing defect/feckup.

The s7e has a larger batt than the note7 and that hasn't had these issues.
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Originally Posted by dpb
Toffee's quiet ...!

Fallen on his sword presumably
Just in case I'll fill in...

iSheep
Fast Charge
Bla, Bla, Bla
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Originally Posted by dpb
It's a good thing the iPhone doesn't require one them Big batteries
The S7 Edge already has a bigger battery, anyway.

Its some monumental screw up by Samsung who by all accounts were killing it in 2016, Samsung released the 'fixed' Note 7 too quickly without truly getting to the root cause of the issue and were left in no position but to cancel it for good.

If only Apple did not release the most boring of iPhone 7s they might have some chance to lure some Note 7 fans to the iPhone 7 plus but a bowl of weetabix is more interesting than that debacle.

Instead it will be the case where people who wanted Note 7s will just get alternative Androids and there are many to choose from including the S7 series and others from Acer Zen Fone 3 Deluxe, HTC 10, LG G5, Huawei P9 , Sony Xperia Z5 and the new Google ones.

As for Jack, its amazing he can pull the wool from so many peoples eyes here, he has been talking shiiite for probably years now harping on about Apple and how great they are:

things like...

poor resale value of Androids (only to post up a ebay sale of an iPhone 6 plus that went for less money than my note 5)

Apple watches, brutal sales. If someone walked into dragons den and said they had 4% product sales from key clients - They would be told where to go.

'Innovation' in the iPhone 7... useless battery life, ancient display, 16bit audio, haptic function which doesnt seem to have any real use other than perhaps accessibility feature. Apple have not even released sales figures...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspen.../#5c09bbc36ba1

If they grew a pair and made a more exciting device they would have an excellent opportunity to grab peoples attention, people who were to buy Note 7 for instance. With all the money they have in the bank for ripping off people for years its scandalous that this is all they can come up with.

Before Jack or his entourage of fanboys chime in here with 'Oh, Apple wont release bigger screens and larger batteries until they know the time is right' BS... Almost every other Android manufacturer uses larger displays and larger batteries (safely) and then there is the S7 Edge. They also use fast charging and other tech (32 bit DACs hello) that are alien to Apple.

Jack is too loved up in Apple to ever criticise them indeed he probably has a child called Apple.

besides, it looks like they might have some problems themselves aside from rubbish sales.

http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/...xplode-Battery

http://bgr.com/2016/10/10/iphone-6-plus-explosions/

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*ding ding* Seconds out, round #2...
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are you still going.
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Id predict some apple converts , after this debacle tbh

who knows how many
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Just in case you read it this time, too much custard pie in your eyes I suspect.

2nd largest Watch manufacturer in the world, year one.
Best display on any mobile device, most perfect ever tested.

Now for audio, a link to an Android site http://www.androidauthority.com/why-...it-dac-667621/

And another that's not too impressed with your beloved Samsung http://www.sammobile.com/2016/02/22/...se-audio-chip/
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Originally Posted by neil-h
are you still going.
suck it up boyo, unless you have anything useful to add other than

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Originally Posted by JackClark
Just in case you read it this time, too much custard pie in your eyes I suspect.

2nd largest Watch manufacturer in the world, year one.
Best display on any mobile device, most perfect ever tested.

Now for audio, a link to an Android site http://www.androidauthority.com/why-...it-dac-667621/

And another that's not too impressed with your beloved Samsung http://www.sammobile.com/2016/02/22/...se-audio-chip/
Jack, I already posted up detailed sales figures of the Apple watch, even fanboys dont want them

They are shiite, they might seem good to Apple however in a year of dissapointing sales.

http://www.dezeen.com/2016/07/22/sma...ularity-dives/

The display is only good to you it seems as Apple will most definately have a OLED display on the new iphone in 2017

The HTC10 is widely regarded as having excellent sound and it uses a dedicated 24 bit DAC, Apple are just making mugs of people continually. Yes, that is you again Jack.

Take sabbatical leave until 2017 it should be an exciting time for fanboys to see how much ground they can gain on the competition with the recent Samsung fiasco.

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Originally Posted by dpb
Id predict some apple converts , after this debacle tbh

who knows how many
until they move to the 21st century I cant see many take the plunge, about 3 hours to charge an iPhone 7 plus.

If I spent over £900 on a phone I would expect faster charge times, its not 2013 (when quick charge 1.0 was out)

then again Apple have over priced products for years.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10685/...-plus-review/5
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Yes, the HTC does have a 24 bit DAC and I'm sure it's great, but you didn't buy that device so it's a bit odd that you're even mentioning it.

Here's a great picture of Tim for you, it might help you understand the great success of the Apple Watch.

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Originally Posted by JackClark
Yes, the HTC does have a 24 bit DAC and I'm sure it's great, but you didn't buy that device so it's a bit odd that you're even mentioning it.

Here's a great picture of Tim for you, it might help you understand the great success of the Apple Watch.

That is great Jack however its 2016 now.

http://qz.com/658010/a-year-after-it...n-apple-watch/

I know about the tech in lots of devices, like the Zen Fone Deluxe with its 6GB of RAM. HTC are famous for boomsound so its rare to find an Android fan who doesnt know this stuff.


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