I think we currently have quite a tacky version of the House of Cards on the show, in the UK. All this explicit political manoeuvring, backstabbing and how the gutter press twists and turns things should encourage someone to make The House of Boris, actually.

The chip paper (I'd like to share it nonetheless) that I read this morning is this:

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews...Q&ocid=UE07DHP

I've never seen such explicit shallow politics and gutter journalism in relation to the UK politics before. Well I have, but only an episode here and an episode there. Not for a period full of many surprises. It's like a magician pulling 'dangerous' rabbits out of his hat; one after another and another and another.............


I do believe that Boris's flippant and exaggerating ways have been the catalyst in terms of sparking this sort of record low politics in the UK. The boastful material full of bull$h7t and dreams that Boris offered on a plate didn't often require twisting by any journalist. Thanks to Boris, that 'jumped up in advance' Farage felt even more encouraged to show himself up openly on the world stage. This sort of gutter level political climate may not be just Boris's legacy but a shared one, but I must give a major credit to him.

Divisive mighty Brexit; PM resigning; Boris disappearing in the background; Farage resigning as a leader to his party; Corbyn in a pickle; Chilcot’s chilling findings; an unknown entity suddenly stands up against a well-known one for the PM’s post- so much surprises and instability all over the place on this political horizon. Interesting but disturbing at the same time. I don’t currently wait for the next series of the House of Cards, it’s all happening here, in real.

Oh, I forgot to count another very surprising and upsetting event of our England losing to that tiny and semi-professional Iceland in Euro football. That has happened during the same time. But that external event is not really a game of politics, so that's better left out.

 

Something I haven't heard (read) since the muppet days

....What is it with you and rabbits TH LOL?


Being honest this media overload (for want of a better term) has made my mind switch off from most of news/media and social web about this. The referendum thread can rot for all I care with all the tosh within it has drowned out any thing rational on either side. And its the same situation everywhere else be it the media overdrive, sulking inners, "mal-informed" outers. I can't escape it...its spouted at work, by staff, customers, delivery drivers, its on the radio, its in the pub, on the TV, on the forums, Farcebook, its inescapable to the point I feel like going off grid to block out the nonsense.

Its been that bad I actually found it "refreshing" to find a big news headline about a wall collapsing. For once a recent headline based on a proper event; something actual and factual that could be reported "as-it-is". Nope, even then the media couldn't make their mind up if it was concrete, brick or breeze block or if those buried were Spanish or Gambian...FFS if you don't know, don't publish it....and there we go, thats what its all been about in the past month over the referendum, party leaders and everything else of recent: People who "don't know" reporting as if they do know, conjuring up soundbites and spreading it across the nation where it gets repeated by the greater audience like a bunch of demented parrots.

God is mocking us, I'm sure of it. If "it" isn't, then I'm an Atheist. LOl

 

Here you go Ali, something to cheer you up:

 

Glad you made a connection to that old tale that is my copyright. That was the idea.

There we are! Another evidence of the fact that the innocent looking fluffy bunnies can indeed be quite dangerous.

 

please don't build a myth Alib

I see no sulking inners on the referendum thread

Hislop puts it better than I can

here you go


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36742691

 

I disagree.

 

My mate had a Lop-eared thing. It'd stare at you for hours on end from the corner of the room. Doing nothing, just staring. I'd swear it was plotting something evil, maybe practicing mind control on Brexiters

 

Oh, right!

The fat one from my tale used to come to our garden, skip about and terrorise our smaller cat. I tried to carry him once to take him back to his owner (my neighbour). But he nearly bit me, man! Baastward! My neighbour told me that his dangerous and extremely illogical Brexiter rabbit obviously voted 'OUT' with great passion.

 

Then provide the the evidence, show the posts of sulking inners

I can show the posts of sulking outers - who took their ball home

You show sulking inners

 

Here we go. I'm not going to sift through a 100+page thread to "win" over over you.

Do it yourself through my eyes (if you can).

 

Very funny phrase, that!

 

I watched the Hislop clip when it was first broadcast on Thursday night, and from what I remember, he wasn't in the slightest bit denying that there were a fair few Remainers being quite vocal about how big a mistake they thought the country had made in voting to leave. He was merely pointing out that it's in no way incumbent on them "to just suck it up" and keep their opinions to themselves, in the way that a lot of Leavers seem to think they should. He's 100% right on both counts IMO.

 

Good of him, that.

Being quite vocal and still believing that Brexit is a big mistake doesn't mean sulking.

If we went by that as 'sulking', then everyone, who's slating Tony Blair for his bloody lies and not going to jail for it, is sulking.

Come on, we're all entitled to discuss matters here, with our leanings to either way. The one who takes ball home (copyright hodgy ) and goes off in a huff-and-puff is a sulker tbh.

 

For the record I define "sulk" as this: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/sulk


Clearly something got lost through cyber space, maybe I'll try and re-quote my earlier post again with the aim of it being read in a more open mind.....





I made a point, with fair share of blame to all parties with most of my scathing on the media...I make a generalised slight toward "inners" and Hodgy jumps on that, cherry pick it as a quote, removing the context of the whole post and try and turn it in to a argument about the bickering in a thread on Scoobynet mentioned in the earlier sentence.

Nothing is going to being achieved by prancing about with this over-defensiveness attitude (I could call that sulking too ) Does anyone honestly think it will change other people's views? Can you even accept criticism of a collective group that you feel you identify with, even if you may not be the individual person responsible? Afterall, I did vote "IN"...right? (Its rather hard to hide: There is only one bright pink name that voted "IN" in the poll results ), so I've already included myself here.


So if Hodgy is inferring that "us" inners are totally blameless in all of this, well, excuuuuuse me Peter Perfect.

 

Me, too. That's why I wondered why the 'vocal about their wound' ones are being called sulkers.



To be honest with you, in your #182 I think you mean 'still feeling upset' by 'sulking' and I understand that same $h£t different day does get boring. I don't think you meant 'sulking' as factually sulking sulking, if you know what I mean. I personally find real 'sulky' sulkers quite annoying. Passive aggressors that like to get their own way with their sulk.

I agree with you on your comments on the media. Although I still remain very interested in this Brexit aftermath, my football watching on TV and some other activities give me a break from it and I don't feel overloaded with the same $h5t different day.


Yes, I believe that people's views can be changed provided their brains are capable to absorb the facts that are being discussed, not fiction that they fell for.

Regarding the inners not being totally blameless, generally speaking, I agree. Major political IN figures are to blame as well, because their national campaign was an utter disgrace. All what they're bringing out now should have been highlighted well enough, before the vote. It's too late now, to be fair. But imo not the gutter press but good quality press articles, on line thought blasting and discussions must go on nonetheless. More stimulating than reading about Kardashians and shyte like that.

 

Forgot to add:

I don't think hodgy cherry picked tbf, if you consider the broader picture.

To my understanding, your stance toward IN has been ambivalent; that's despite you having voted for IN. There have been several occasions on the Referendum thread where you and the clear cut IN supporter hodgy clashed on this IN and OUT. So, when hodgy senses your ambivalence with a wrong blame on the inners (e.g. in this case, you blaming the inners for sulking) in your post, he challenges you. His challenges are quite direct as well.

It's all harmless. It's good see you two locking horns from where I'm sitting. Instead of it being harmful, it actually is an intellectual banter, so it can't be bad. You both are cool chappies.

 

yes, my thoughts exactly

which is in a way why I linked to it - he expressed it brilliantly

 

Sometimes,I really wish the press/media would just grow up

 

It seems Andrea Leadsom might stand down. Perhaps Cameron should be persuaded to stay on?

 

I can't help but feel there should be at least two candidates. Becoming prime minister by default doesn't seem right.

 

well that was over quick

 

I don't think Mrs Leadsom stood any chance against May and at least this way she can fight again in a few year's time.


FWIW I thought the whole Times generated fuss about "Children are Good for You" to be so relatively unimportant when there real issues to discuss.


I have 2 kids but couldn't care less if a woman has kids or not. As it happens I think having children does give one a better perspective on life. For example I found the plight of Syrian refugee children especially upsetting and had a huge amount of sympathy with the parents. I feel that my feelings were partly brought on by the bond and love I have for my own children. I suspect mothers feel this even more.


So it looks like May until the tabloids push out more sleaze so don't be surprised when you see "May - Merkel Affair" or "When 14 year old Theresa visited Abortion Clinic"


David

 

Female PM........now why does that particular scenario fill me with dread?

 

my wife often says something similar

 

Not to me she doesn't

 

In normal circumstances the Tories would be viewed as being in disarray, what with Brexit and the leadership election, and a prime moment for Labour to strike. But no, Labour have contrived to make the Tory problems looking like a slight amount of chop on an otherwise calm blue lake. Is Corbyn a Tory mole?

 

true

 

A female Tory PM no less.

 

Well a large amount of his vote came from Tories who joined the Labour Party to get him in and make Labour unelectable, so the answer's yes, but not intentionally (on his part).

It makes me laugh when I see all these earnest Momentum lefties saying how popular he is amongst the members, blissfully unaware of exactly why that is.

The daft thing is, I get the impression he's actually a nice chap, albeit in my opinion wholly misguided.

 

Oh well, I suppose its stirred the pot a bit, guess she cant be worse than the other duffers