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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Welcome to the club James
Thanks, Hodgy. It feels good!

(Neil-h, if you would oblige. Maybe, just maybe, you too can join our unholy trinity. We can then become the quad squad or something. Then, once you've recruited a 'quoter' so that warren continues to see your posts, we will become the infamous five or something. You never know, once everyone's in on it with a bit of luck Warren will have the whole of nsr blocked, but will still be able to read every post. I love a good farce, me.)
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 06:34 PM
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Neil-h, can you quote this for me, please?

Warren, I forgive you. x
No problem, I just needed someone else to post first so I could quote it for thread continuity (other wise he might block me to)
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
No problem, I just needed someone else to post first so I could quote it for thread continuity (other wise he might block me to)
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 06:38 PM
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It's a sad really that he can't simply ignore/not reply to people who's views he doesn't like, pretty closed minded by all accounts.
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 06:38 PM
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You got it blue by you

Total nutters, but unfortunately amazingly influential in Americans politics

And people like that could get the White House

And they have the same philosophical underpinnings as the far right Brexiters

They too talk about "taking back control, immigrants, elites, big government, NWO"

They spout this faux concern for the simple working class

Utter nutters

They live in a self fulfilling echo chamber of bollox endlessly repeating the same tired warn out arguments

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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
Top quote from the vid,
"Maybe it's not the guns, it's the people holding the guns"
No **** sherlock!
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
You got it blue by you

Total nutters, but unfortunately amazingly influential in Americans politics

And people like that could get the White House

And they have the same philosophical underpinnings as the far right Brexiters

They too talk about "taking back control, immigrants, elites, big government, NWO"

They spout this faux concern for the simple working class

Utter nutters

They live in a self fulfilling echo chamber of bollox endlessly repeating the same tired warn out arguments
This needs quoting.
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 06:53 PM
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Warren won't hear you, he has you an me blocked

He is living in a self fulfilling echo chamber spouting the same tired old bollox
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
You got it blue by you

Total nutters, but unfortunately amazingly influential in Americans politics

And people like that could get the White House

And they have the same philosophical underpinnings as the far right Brexiters

They too talk about "taking back control, immigrants, elites, big government, NWO"

They spout this faux concern for the simple working class

Utter nutters

They live in a self fulfilling echo chamber of bollox endlessly repeating the same tired warn out arguments
This needs quoting.
Was that a statement or a thinly veiled hint?
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 07:00 PM
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turns out he is a muslimist then,maybe trumps got a point.
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
turns out he is a muslimist then,maybe trumps got a point.
At the risk of being a bit of a conspiritard. He was always going to be: a radical Muslim, an ISIS sympathiser and branded a terrorist. The Americans wouldn't have it any other way.
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
At the risk of being a bit of a conspiritard. He was always going to be: a radical Muslim, an ISIS sympathiser and branded a terrorist. The Americans wouldn't have it any other way.
There was never any question about that, after all the culprit was never going to be one of 'Their Own' was he?

Because as we know....
Originally Posted by Blue by You
"Maybe it's not the guns, it's the people holding the guns"
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
At the risk of being a bit of a conspiritard. He was always going to be: a radical Muslim, an ISIS sympathiser and branded a terrorist. The Americans wouldn't have it any other way.
At the risk of sounding a bit chicken-and-egg philosopher, which came first, his leanings toward radical islamo-political ideology, or his awkward personal realization that he was starting to find some of the other guys pumping their toned butts and torsos at the local gym a little too buff for his inner mental comfort?

All joshing aside, there's no denying this is an absolute tragedy, in so many ways.
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 07:57 PM
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This is what is so fascinating

The illiberal, authoritarian, anti gay, anti science , anti progress, gun loving tendencies of the American right are quite similar to the illiberal, authoritarian, anti gay, anti science anti progress , gun loving tendencies of ISIS
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 07:59 PM
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And agree horrific
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
This is what is so fascinating

The illiberal, authoritarian, anti gay, anti science , anti progress, gun loving tendencies of the American right are quite similar to the illiberal, authoritarian, anti gay, anti science anti progress , gun loving tendencies of ISIS
Two sides of the same coin.
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 08:00 PM
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Perhaps Warren is a homosexual.
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Welcome to the club James
This club isn't nearly as exclusive as it used to be.

As founder member I feel I should draw up some rules 😀
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Two sides of the same coin.
We live in a strange age JT - it is hard not to feel pessimistic about it all, but I think I have faith in humanity

Originally Posted by JTaylor
Perhaps Warren is a homosexual.
Lol, stranger things!!

Originally Posted by Martin2005
This club isn't nearly as exclusive as it used to be.

As founder member I feel I should draw up some rules 😀
Ahah, maybe a Facebook page, lol - anyway happy to be a member
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
This club isn't nearly as exclusive as it used to be.

As founder member I feel I should draw up some rules 😀
It's a badge of honour.
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
It's a sad really that he can't simply ignore/not reply to people who's views he doesn't like, pretty closed minded by all accounts.
Sigh, you taking misunderstanding to new levels. Is it accidental (ie stupdity) or just being deliberately ignorant? That was a rhetorical question BTW

You were present in the debate when I blocked Hodgy. It was ad hom after ad hom after ad hom, even when I pointed this out. Blocking him is not close minded, it is rejecting someone who is being a fvcktard. If you fail to understand that, then you truely are a cretin.

What is more interesting is why the leftist window lickers here care who I block or not? Does it effect your life in any way? Who gives a **** who I listen to or think is a retard?? Because I give someone a chance and debate them, but discover they are strangers to reason, why would I want to engage with them further?

I haven't blocked you Neil, I think its fair to say you and I have different views, and as long as you post moderately intelligent points whether I agree with them of not, I will engage with you. If you become a dogmatic moron with no logical argument then that will change. Jtaylor deliberately tried winding me up so I blocked him, simples.

Now back on topic, people died, there are more important things going on
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
Sigh, you taking misunderstanding to new levels. Is it accidental (ie stupdity) or just being deliberately ignorant? That was a rhetorical question BTW

You were present in the debate when I blocked Hodgy. It was ad hom after ad hom after ad hom, even when I pointed this out. Blocking him is not close minded, it is rejecting someone who is being a fvcktard. If you fail to understand that, then you truely are a cretin.

What is more interesting is why the leftist window lickers here care who I block or not? Does it effect your life in any way? Who gives a **** who I listen to or think is a retard?? Because I give someone a chance and debate them, but discover they are strangers to reason, why would I want to engage with them further?

I haven't blocked you Neil, I think its fair to say you and I have different views, and as long as you post moderately intelligent points whether I agree with them of not, I will engage with you. If you become a dogmatic moron with no logical argument then that will change. Jtaylor deliberately tried winding me up so I blocked him, simples.

Now back on topic, people died, there are more important things going on
This must go down as one of the funniest and most hypocritical post ever.

Well done Warren, keep up the fine work.
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Freethinker
This must go down as one of the funniest and most hypocritical post ever.

Well done Warren, keep up the fine work.
It is hilarious.

Anyway, there have been the usual, "you want to take our guns away" reactions to Obama wanting to restrict guns a little, of late. Obama's response was quite good I thought.

I don't know what sort of tragedy it will take to get some decent regulation in place, I dread to think.

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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Torquemada
It is hilarious.

Anyway, there have been the usual, "you want to take our guns away" reactions to Obama wanting to restrict guns a little, of late. Obama's response was quite good I thought.

I don't know what sort of tragedy it will take to get some decent regulation in place, I dread to think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSEoVkl0W30
It's just too easy for nutters to get ridiculously powerful weapons.

As I speak the right wing are going into overdrive again about terrorism, doing all they can to deflect from a fundamental flaw in all Americans security.
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 11:51 PM
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Being American he probably shouted Aloha Snackbar, and they got confused
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
As I speak the right wing are going into overdrive again about terrorism, doing all they can to deflect from a fundamental flaw in all Americans security.
Yep, they are absolutely insane. I see it day to day, I work with people who spout it all the time. It's weird, as sometimes it's people I would consider intelligent and perfectly reasonable, who start banging on about liberals and how they are trying to make America soft and how we should bomb these terrorists off the map (because it's that easy, huh?) etc.

We're about to have a terrible president elected, whoever it is. I can't see them making great decisions on firearms. There will be another big mass shooting story within the next couple of months, no doubt the same cycle will continue.
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Torquemada
It is hilarious

I don't know what sort of tragedy it will take to get some decent regulation in place, I dread to think.
Well, nothing happened after Sandy Hook, when another lunatic took an assault rifle, along with high capacity magazines (little children can be hard to hit sometimes) into a primary school and massacred teachers and toddlers alike

So I suspect nothing will change (and I have been posting the same for the last 10 years)

How do they respond - large sections simply "deny" there is a problem, smaller sections simply deny it ever took place, and in fact it was a hoax

I suspect as we speak the Orlando false flaggers / hoaxers are in force on the Internet spouting cr4p

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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
This is what is so fascinating

The illiberal, authoritarian, anti gay, anti science , anti progress, gun loving tendencies of the American right are quite similar to the illiberal, authoritarian, anti gay, anti science anti progress , gun loving tendencies of ISIS
Correct, and to tell you the truth, it has always been like that since this 'terrorism' has become big in this day and age. Organised crime based on the airy fairy premises on not, you have to be an Islam follower to be a terrorist. Rest are just random psychologically disturbed people on a rampage.

On that 'anti-science' American Righties, perhaps the symptoms e.g. brainwashed attitude to the rest of the human race and killing techniques are less traumatic/severe and limited to their own country therefore they escape the 'terrorist' label? Or perhaps, as I say, one has to be a Muslim in order to be branded as a terrorist; subject to his/her brainwashed self terrifying/killing others on international level; by applying horror-filled, no-frills, self-destructive methods?

Or are the killings by the American Right are less traumatic because they prefer to be killed by their own but not by the Islamist terrorist? Mind boggles , although a killing is a killing.
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 09:27 AM
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I'm not so sure it has that much to do with Isis.
He sounds like a mentally disturbed individual with homophobic issues.
The problem is in the u.s. mental people can get hold of guns easily so can shoot whoever they have a problem with this week.
On another point is it the law to have silly eyebrows if you are a woofer???
(The last part is a lighthearted observation by the way)
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
I'm not so sure it has that much to do with Isis.
He sounds like a mentally disturbed individual with homophobic issues.
The problem is in the u.s. mental people can get hold of guns easily so can shoot whoever they have a problem with this week.
On another point is it the law to have silly eyebrows if you are a woofer???
(The last part is a lighthearted observation by the way)
In the Sky news it said that FBI knew him for him being influenced by the destructive Islamic fundamentalist ideology. That was like 3 years ago. So, let's see how he gets branded in a long term. I think his picture is stuck amongst the Islamic terrorists on the Police station wall, not amongst the 'mental illness' labelled random ones. I don't know for sure, though.

To be honest, all terrorists are mentally ill. we do know that.
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