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Old Jan 25, 2017 | 10:34 PM
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lol lol lol

http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51...NDk5NA%3D%3D.2
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 06:15 PM
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Lol, but the jokes on you though as you're just following the media opinion like a sheep by sharing this stuff! Think about who benefits from Trump's policies most.. it's the poor, the lower middle classes, the demographics with a higher proportion of black and hispanics. These are the people who get hit from globalist policies, and who loses from Trump's policies?.. rich white people whose corporations lose a pool of cheap labour that is being imported, and jobs being offshored - things which increase profits, increase their wealth and widen the rich/poor divide.

People are waking up though, just look on youtube at all the black trump supporters - they get that his policies mean jobs rather than handouts for their communities. People like P Diddy, Ice Cube, Shaq O'Neil, loads are backing him because they can see how their communities will benefit.

But the globalists are using their position of power to fund liberal media to strengthen their position, and in their shoes would be the smart thing to do, but people are waking up to this! (clearly not you though)

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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 06:21 PM
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you have to wonder a bit at why Donald is pursuing the voter fraud thing

the Bernard Langer angle seems outright desperate

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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
Lol, but the jokes on you though as you're just following the media opinion like a sheep by sharing this stuff! Think about who benefits from Trump's policies most.. it's the poor, the lower middle classes, the demographics with a higher proportion of black and hispanics. These are the people who get hit from globalist policies, and who loses from Trump's policies?.. rich white people whose corporations lose a pool of cheap labour that is being imported, and jobs being offshored - things which increase profits, increase their wealth and widen the rich/poor divide.

People are waking up though, just look on youtube at all the black trump supporters - they get that his policies mean jobs rather than handouts for their communities. People like P Diddy, Ice Cube, Shaq O'Neil, loads are backing him because they can see how their communities will benefit.

But the globalists are using their position of power to fund liberal media to strengthen their position, and in their shoes would be the smart thing to do, but people are waking up to this! (clearly not you though)
ah yes , top down conspiracy

You really think its that simple Petem ?

hope youre right in a way
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
Lol, but the jokes on you though as you're just following the media opinion like a sheep by sharing this stuff! Think about who benefits from Trump's policies most.. it's the poor, the lower middle classes, the demographics with a higher proportion of black and hispanics. These are the people who get hit from globalist policies, and who loses from Trump's policies?.. rich white people whose corporations lose a pool of cheap labour that is being imported, and jobs being offshored - things which increase profits, increase their wealth and widen the rich/poor divide.

People are waking up though, just look on youtube at all the black trump supporters - they get that his policies mean jobs rather than handouts for their communities. People like P Diddy, Ice Cube, Shaq O'Neil, loads are backing him because they can see how their communities will benefit.

But the globalists are using their position of power to fund liberal media to strengthen their position, and in their shoes would be the smart thing to do, but people are waking up to this! (clearly not you though)
Lol, wake up sheeple

It's all the fault the globalist new world order, the illuminati <yawn>

Fight back by electing a billionaire and lets hope he fills his cabinet with other billionaires, some who made their fortune forclosing on middle Americas mortgagees

Fingers crossed

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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 06:57 PM
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and lets get all our information from those well known down to earth men of the people the billionaires

Lord Rothermere - Mail, Mail On sunday etc

Murdoch - Sun, Times, Sunday times, wall street journal, Sky Fox News etc etc etce

Barclay Brother - Telegraph etc etce


wake up sheeple

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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by gary77
Your graph actually shows it didnt more than double . a
really

What was it at the end of Clinton - what was it at the end of Bush

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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gary77
And while im here i might aswel add a link to an interesting conspiracy theory

http://www.westernspring.co.uk/the-c...les-of-europe/
simple claptap that belongs on https://www.davidicke.com/

exposing the dream world we believe to be real

or b0ll0x as its known
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 07:12 PM
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in fact here it is

https://www.davidicke.com/article/36...y-media-fakery
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Lol, wake up sheeple

It's all the fault the globalist new world order, the illuminati <yawn>

Fight back by electing a billionaire and lets hope he fills his cabinet with other billionaires, some who made their fortune forclosing on middle Americas mortgagees

Fingers crossed
Ok so lets look at it, which demographic wins from the following policies?;

1) Reducing illegal immigration (source of cheap labour)
2) Bringing back offshore jobs which have been farmed out to workers who can do it cheaper (to maximise company profits)

Do you think;

a) The Rich
b) The Middle Classes
c) The Low Paid
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
Ok so lets look at it, which demographic wins from the following policies?;

1) Reducing illegal immigration (source of cheap labour)
2) Bringing back offshore jobs which have been farmed out to workers who can do it cheaper (to maximise company profits)


Do you think;

a) The Rich
b) The Middle Classes
c) The Low Paid
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but what makes you think Trump has the first clue how to deliver on those promises? (forgetting for a minute whether he even wants to, or stands a chance of getting any attempt to past the corporate leaders who fill the Republican ranks of the Senate and Congress)
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
really

What was it at the end of Clinton - what was it at the end of Bush

I cant tell you that from your graph it only shows the percent it increased by. Which isnt more than 100%

So yes really
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
simple claptap that belongs on https://www.davidicke.com/

exposing the dream world we believe to be real

or b0ll0x as its known
You are entitled to your opinion . And it would take far to much time for me to look into in depth to make a decision either way
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Should everything david icke be written of as bull**** ? Ok he does believe the royals are shape shifting lizards. But surely some of what he talks about could be legit .or at least worth further investigation .

I suppose i dint care enough to look into in depth. But i find it an interesting theory worth looking into if i find some time
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by markjmd
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but what makes you think Trump has the first clue how to deliver on those promises? (forgetting for a minute whether he even wants to, or stands a chance of getting any attempt to past the corporate leaders who fill the Republican ranks of the Senate and Congress)
Should we maybe wait and see before jusging him ?
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
and I clearly shows in % terms it more than doubled under Bush - I repeat more than DOUBLED
Originally Posted by gary77
I cant tell you that from your graph it only shows the percent it increased by. Which isnt more than 100%

So yes really
Originally Posted by gary77
Should everything david icke be written of as bull**** ? Ok he does believe the royals are shape shifting lizardse
okay Gary

you are beyond help


look up the "broken clock fallacy"

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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 09:06 PM
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Illegal workers have gone down under Obama , and of those that did arrive Mexicans have formed lower percentage of the figure

But trump still wants the wall
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 09:32 PM
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Not sure about the reintroducing of waterboarding but apparently there is a scene in Trainspotting 2 where they waterboard using Irn-bru.lol

Honestly,just the wall nonsense is just plain daft,ignoring everything else.

We really are in for some comedy moments.
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 09:36 PM
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I can see ditchmysters graph shows debt had risen from $1.5 t to almost $5t . So that is more than a 200% rise . But your graph states that debt had risen around say 85%.

Clinton debt grow by around say 40% .

So im guessing you are pointing out that bush increased debt by a larger % than clinton ?

Fair enough .but pretty uninteresting point

I must be missing something since both graphs dont seem to tell the same story

If im reading hodgys graph right and i taje ditchmysters to start with a debt of $1.5t and then increase that by the 85% stated on hosgies graph .takes debt to under $3t and then obama by say 100% would take debt to $6t . What am i missing here

Actually i'll fix this post when ive looked at the graphs a bit more. I assume ditchmysters graph shows the invrease not the total debt

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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 09:37 PM
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and approx 350million crossings from mexico into the us every year $10bucks a time the mexicans will pay for the wall if they want to keep thier job in the usa like it or not wait n see, thats my prediction trump idiot or not is a buisness man 1st not a career politition like our lot of lovies, he will make them pay for it themselves
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
okay Gary

you are beyond help


look up the "broken clock fallacy"
Nice quote that last one . Pointless but very well done
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Originally Posted by gary77
Should we maybe wait and see before jusging him ?
I'm happy to do that, the same as I am with any newly-elected leader. What remains to be seen though are whether the legions of Trumpatistas who are convinced the guy can walk on water are going to be willing to do the same four years from now, when it's become painfully obvious that he can't
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Originally Posted by madscoob
and approx 350million crossings from mexico into the us every year $10bucks a time the mexicans will pay for the wall if they want to keep thier job in the usa like it or not wait n see, thats my prediction trump idiot or not is a buisness man 1st not a career politition like our lot of lovies, he will make them pay for it themselves
really, do you have a source for that

that sound like the entire population of the US
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 10:06 PM
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I don't know where you got that figure from

Boris Johnson ??
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by markjmd
I'm happy to do that, the same as I am with any newly-elected leader. What remains to be seen though are whether the legions of Trumpatistas who are convinced the guy can walk on water are going to be willing to do the same four years from now, when it's become painfully obvious that he can't
the problem is when you have "alternative facts"

white is black and black is white

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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by markjmd
I'm happy to do that, the same as I am with any newly-elected leader. What remains to be seen though are whether the legions of Trumpatistas who are convinced the guy can walk on water are going to be willing to do the same four years from now, when it's become painfully obvious that he can't
I personally dont know anybody that doesnt think he is going to make a complete mockery of the whole thing. Myself included .

But im very interested to see what happens .
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I found this to show in a clear way how debt rose during Bush (2001-2009) and obama (2009-2015)

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Originally Posted by Petem95
Ok so lets look at it, which demographic wins from the following policies?;

1) Reducing illegal immigration (source of cheap labour)
2) Bringing back offshore jobs which have been farmed out to workers who can do it cheaper (to maximise company profits)

Do you think;

a) The Rich
b) The Middle Classes
c) The Low Paid
when they've lost their entitlements and health care the the low paid will soon let Trump know how they feel.

You also carefully forgot to mention huge corporate tax cuts and astonising levels of deregulation. I'm sure the poor will be delighted at those.

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Old Jan 27, 2017 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
really, do you have a source for that

that sound like the entire population of the US
work it out the wording was crossings not people, 1 person would cross 250times per year if they lived in mexico and worked in the us, bit like us idiots paying to go in to wales via the bridges
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You've got him going as well as coming ?

Sound business
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