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Yup leads are discount price when buying the ESL or the course.
But if you have OBD2 or OBD1(ssm)then why not just buy the correct lead?
Just sticking a converter on the ssm won't allow you to communicate with ESL(or will it?)
Yup leads are discount price when buying the ESL or the course.
But if you have OBD2 or OBD1(ssm)then why not just buy the correct lead?
Just sticking a converter on the ssm won't allow you to communicate with ESL(or will it?)
Well I've been told the converter works so..... £8 or £95 worth a punt
Well I've been told the converter works so..... £8 or £95 worth a punt
Just keep in mind that the cable is effectively the way that ESL licenses their software. They don't charge for the software, or try to lock it down with activation keys etc, they charge for the cable. Essentially, you can either buy an ESL board and pay a mapper to map it for you, or you buy an ESL board and cable which then entitles you to use their software and map it yourself.
Being a software developer myself, and having had a chat with Andy about how this side of things works, I'd be very surprised if an SSM to OBD cable will work at all with the ESL software.
I'm just trying to save people from wasting their money buying something that I'm pretty certain won't work and pointing out that the £95 for the cable is more than just a cable - it's the software, the use of the ESL software and the support that goes along with it too.
Just keep in mind that the cable is effectively the way that ESL licenses their software. They don't charge for the software, or try to lock it down with activation keys etc, they charge for the cable. Essentially, you can either buy an ESL board and pay a mapper to map it for you, or you buy an ESL board and cable which then entitles you to use their software and map it yourself.
Being a software developer myself, and having had a chat with Andy about how this side of things works, I'd be very surprised if an SSM to OBD cable will work at all with the ESL software.
I'm just trying to save people from wasting their money buying something that I'm pretty certain won't work and pointing out that the £95 for the cable is more than just a cable - it's the software, the use of the ESL software and the support that goes along with it too.
Well said. Plenty of people try to cut corners with this and wonder why it doesn't work properly in the end. Do it right people!!
as above, i had made some enquiries with ESL to see if I could fashion or purchase some kind of multi headed cable to do all years but the word is it's not doable so I would expect the keys are different between the years as well as the physical plug layout.
at the end of the day compared to the likes of a tactrix for doing newage cars the ESL cable is quite cheap and you only need it if you want to tinker with the map. if you just want to have the ECU and someone else map the car they will have a cable and you won't need one.
Well said. Plenty of people try to cut corners with this and wonder why it doesn't work properly in the end. Do it right people!!
It's a fair comment regarding the software, all I asked if their was a converter, someone had one so I'm going to try it, I'm not trying to "cut corners" merely save a few quid like everyone does. If it doesn't work, more the fool me, I'll just buy the genuine obd lead also.
Not getting a dig at anyone in particular, just saying its best to do the job right first time. My thinking behind buying everything new from ESL was that I'd have warranty and support from them if I ever needed it. They've been most helpful from the word go with me.
Not getting a dig at anyone in particular, just saying its best to do the job right first time. My thinking behind buying everything new from ESL was that I'd have warranty and support from them if I ever needed it. They've been most helpful from the word go with me.
Agreed, I'm going on their course and I'll end up buying one of their leads, two if the converter don't work out! All I'm assuming is the converter does pin swaps
hi how much would I be looking for motherboard etc for my 98 terror love the car but unlike my bugeye finding it hard to get ecu mapped all upgrades in place for more power but I've been told either apexi route or esl which I've heard is much better multiple maps? any help appreciated
hi how much would I be looking for motherboard etc for my 98 terror love the car but unlike my bugeye finding it hard to get ecu mapped all upgrades in place for more power but I've been told either apexi route or esl which I've heard is much better multiple maps? any help appreciated
Eh cheers Rich, seen it now. I'm in 2 minds about the mapping course. I see me coming away and learning nothing. I don't have the best attention span lol Hope he posts it on here not everyone's fb.
