And there was me thinking Scabbynet had gone soft.

 

Clearly has inferiority complex

 

Yep, I'm sure that we would be happy with the Anglo-French initiative.........oh......wait......Mrs Alcazar would tear anyone who tried a new @rsehole.
LOL

Seen today on t'internet in two different places, the little boy who downed, they were already settled in Turkey, fled Syria years ago, the father dicided to come to the west for a better life again, so paid for the boat.

We really need to stop believing what the media tells/shows us and start prosecuting those who put their families in danger. We could start with that guy who threw his wife and baby off a railway platform last week.

 

I feel horrible mentioning it but if they were refugee's why did the father go back to his family in Syria to bury the dead.

 

The majority of them want to go to Germany so DONT PANIC not yet anyway ......

 

This.

 

They go to Germany, then once they've got their German passport they're free to travel throughout Europe.

This whole situation really is unbelievable. Even Germany is saying only 20% of the migrants claiming asylum are from Syria, and the fact that the vast majority are males of working age it should be obvious even to naive liberals that the majority are economic migrants jumping on the bandwagon. Yes there are clearly some cases of human suffering, but many others are also playing the game - they don't seem too happy to settle in poorer EU countries, they want to get to the richest ones like Germany, and ones with families are quick to hold up babies to the cameras and signs asking 'where are our human rights?' to get the liberal hearts bleeding.

The fact Germany is giving the green light to accepting migrants will be a green light to millions in poorer countries that all they need to do is get to Europe. Germany accept 800,000 this year, then 2 million next year, then 3 million - where does it end? What strain will it have on social services, healthcare, eduction, competition for jobs, housing?

It's like Europe is a boat full of people, and all around are people drowning. You want to let some climb aboard, but if you let too many on the boat sinks.

 

It takes 5 years plus to get a passport after having ACTUALLY secured asylum

- honestly the level of ignorance , deliberate or otherwise is astounding

By then "Europe" probably won't even exist

 

It clearly is, where do I ever state a timescale on how long it takes to secure a passport? The level of naivety of people like yourself is staggering.

 

Well you make it sound as though after 6 months wash and brush up they'll be free to land up here looking to steal jobs

 

read this on the net just now. just about sum's it up isn't it strange how none of the arab/muslim state's haven't taken any
Weve all seen 'that' picture of the dead little boy and it plays on the hearts and minds of many people. Myself included. Exactly what it's meant to do. Media doing what it does best. Now please take a good look at this picture I've posted..... and tell me why it happened. If they are only wanting safety and to flee a war torn country then why didnt his parents stay in anyone of these on the map. Then remember that 'your opinion is based on the facts you have' so based on the facts i have....if I told you that his parents were already in a 'safer' country and they were trying to get to Greece to eventually get to Canada. It WASNT A FLEE TO SAFETY at all it was a ****ing life style choice. But it gets played as something else. I have seen fractions of this immigration first hand while sat for 4 hrs in traffic at Calais. Where.....for those 4 hrs I watched people breaking into trucks then i had my van kicked....and spat on and I was threatened and intimidated by men and women and laughed at by children thinking it funny. What a different picture that would make. But, not a big deal I hear you say.....no...maybe not but what about if it was you sat in your car with your children or when they are here in England robbing you or your elderly neighbours or children in the street....breaking into your homes, your car's, your businesses etc....stealing your pets from your gardens. Doing anything it takes to survive. Will you still support them then....after all its only another degree of desperation isnt it...... you forgive them and offer sympathy for risking their kids lives but would you still forgive them for robbing you to feed the same children? If it was a choice between your safety and your 3 year old sons or daughters safety.....WHICH WOULD YOU CHOSE? And before anyone makes the obvious comment....I'm not saying that every single immigrant is a criminal but if desperation drives you to risk your own and your child's life, then what else will it make you do......a desperate person is a dangerous person. Make your comments but please have a good read first and think. I know these people need help...I'm not denying that but we have enough of our own issues going on, when other countries like the UAE, Dubai, Saudi have wealth beyond belief and enough land/space for 10's of thousands of people and yet they do nothing and get away with it....they just say NO and that's that. Look at the poor migrants who have successfully made it to Hungary....nice and safe and could settle but why don't they want to.....cos Hungary have a poor economy and they want to get to Germany. ......ANOTHER ****ING LIFESTYLE CHOICE. DO NOT GET CAUGHT UP IN THE SYMPATHY PROPAGANDA. Cos in 5/10 years when England is ****ed. YOU....THE SYMPATHETIC ONES WILL BE TO BLAME.

 

Hang on , so there's no Muslim Arabs in Egypt Lebanon Turkey Jordan Iraq or North Africa ?

 

it's only what i read, no economic migrants/ people fleeing war have been taken in by uae dubai saudi etc, ironic thing is isis said a few years back we will flood europe with hundreds of thousands of migrants to cause europe financial hardship, and some of them will be members os isis seems like its about to come true

 

And so it begins:

A German school has already written to all it's girls telling them to cover arms, legs and hair "so as to avoid any "misunderstandings" " with the new "refugees".

You couldn't make it up.

The Germans will be sorry.

 

The full / real story


http://www.pnp.de/region_und_lokal/s...nderhetze.html

 

From two years ago very pertinent. Worth watching through 21 mins.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-in-Syria.html

Looks like Russia is getting serious in its efforts to back the Assad regime in Syria, in other words combating ISIS. Military advisors and possibly unofficially combat troops on the ground, and an Airbase being established to mount airstrikes from.

I find it somewhat strange that the US/EU are making so little effort to combat ISIS despite the obvious problems this civil war is causing, and the brutality of ISIS. Russia have been an ally of Assad for some time, and besides selling them weapons they potentially have an interest in ensuring a gas pipeline is NOT built across Syria from the Middle East to Europe through Syria as this would be massive competition for Russian gas supplies to Europe, but I'm not really sure if the Americans have some sort of interest in letting ISIS continue. ISIS are after all in part born out of CIA efforts to overthrow the Assad regime by supplying the anti-Assad rebels with weapons and training.

 

What exactly do you mean by 'lifestyle choice'?

 

I think the problem is far too complex, there are no allies in this conflict and therefore no good outcome. If we fight ISIS we help Assad, if we fight Assad we help ISIS, if we sent troops in, our soldiers would likely fight both. The west doesn't have much of an option. If we've learnt anything from the previous conflicts, direct military intervention has done little in the way of restoring peace, cost many lives and would further stretch our military capabilities. If Russia helps Syria, let them, personally I think it would be the lesser of the two evils.

 

nothing i didn't write it, the first line of my post explain's it was something i had read, if however the boot was on the other foot, and i as a family decided we have had enough of working for **** all in the uk, and packed our bags bought a people carrier and fecked off to sweden or germany and tryed to claim anything until i could find a job with any of the bearing companies i wonder what would happen, i think the point made by the poster of what i put up meant that, when they get to hungary they are already safe, but that isn't good enough they want more so off to a better country they go

 

They not welcome in hungry , besides they can't even feed them.
And why not transit whilst Dublin treaty is suspended

 

This one? It was obvious to anyone with two brain cells that the fathers story was fabricated.

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com...ied-for-entry/

 

Really , So Kobani isn't a war zone , and everything is working normally ?

There's absolutely millions of em I'm Turkey , id go somewhere else given the opportunity, especially the west

 

But they don't have the right. You cannot flee a war zone, then move on because the country you got to won't give you benefits.

And that's what they are doing!

 

I think he's been incredibly stupid , he should have waited, in time he could been sponsored

 

... or selfish, greedy, calculating even?

But don't answer that, answer this instead. If and when the dust has settled, IS are no longer a threat, and internal stability and peace finally return to Syria (after Assad is kicked out or some sort of deal is reached between him and the oppoosition), what proportion of those who fled do you think will want to or try to go back to their former homes there? Also, do you think that proportion will be any different for those who came to Europe than those who stayed put in Jordan, Turkey or any other countries actually on Syria's border?

 

I think a fair proportion will want to go back , when they realise what its actually like being a refugee in Europe . That'll be a long time though

 

And who will pay to repatriate them? Us of course.

We've given Syria £1billion this year...that's more than any other EIGHT EC countries combined, apparently.

Yet THEY are pointing the finger at us for not accepting more economic migrants.

 

Second largest after USA

Coincidence ?

 

Look the simple answer is no.we are full.This country is already bursting with people,i do not understand why we compare ourselves to much bigger country's who can accommodate the masses.