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Old May 9, 2015 | 11:26 PM
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The basic point is that it is a myth that public spending was out of control before the crash

To put it in context I believe it was 47% in 97 when Labour came to power, and had reduced to roughly 35% by 2007/8

And similar with the deficit

It went up after 2008, yes, but as I said Public money was used to bail out the banks
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Old May 10, 2015 | 12:07 AM
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No, I never said it was out of control, also it was around 40% of GDP, but then the Tories didn't raid the pensions nor sold off gold at knock down prices. Add to that, neither did they go against a public opinion for a referendum before deciding to surrender Britain's sovereignty under the Lisbon Treaty and costing Britain tens of billions of pounds.

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Old May 10, 2015 | 08:06 AM
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Lol, OK
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Old May 10, 2015 | 08:56 AM
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On a person by person basis there will always be winners and losers but if you vote for who will serve the country best and not who will serve YOU best then I believe the country has won by keeping the Conservatives in power.
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Old May 10, 2015 | 09:09 AM
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If anything, the £30,000 stone tablet that Ed Milliband commissioned just indicated the wastage and pointless spending to come had he got into office.
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Old May 10, 2015 | 09:38 AM
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It could double as his tomb stone , cut down a bit
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Old May 10, 2015 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mrtheedge2u2
On a person by person basis there will always be winners and losers but if you vote for who will serve the country best and not who will serve YOU best then I believe the country has won by keeping the Conservatives in power.
It is going to be quite an interesting few years

Personally, as someone firmly in the high rate tax band, and owner of several properties in London

I absolutely benefit from a Tory victory - the cap (in law no less) on tax rises, the continued promotion of simple asset inflation as a road to wealth and prosperity, the Tory stance on inheritance tax - all great for me and my family

Coupled with tackling the debt/deficit by cutting public expenditure by 12 billion, again great - that will not really effect me

But what is interesting is the reason why Cameron would not say where the 12billion in cuts will come from - is that it will have to come, in large part, from "in work" benefits

I.e from people already working - and I suspect that this will impact quite hard on some Tory voters

People who do work, but due to our inististant on building a low wage, low skill economy built on zero hour / temporary work (remember I posted on the inevitable growth of these 5 years ago)

Will see their living standards fall quite hard

Interesting (and painful for some) times to come

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Old May 10, 2015 | 09:56 AM
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Child benefit and Pissys pool heating allowance
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Old May 10, 2015 | 10:01 AM
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Undoubdtly child benefit
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Old May 10, 2015 | 10:04 AM
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Child benefit should be limited to first two children.
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Old May 10, 2015 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2

Personally, as someone firmly in the high rate tax band, and owner of several properties in London
In Harry Enfields voice....

"I am considerably richer than Yow"


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Old May 10, 2015 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by stilover
In Harry Enfields voice....

"I am considerably richer than Yow"

Considerably Richer Than You - Harry Enfield and Chums - BBC - YouTube
lol, and believe or not, I will on holiday with him (and his
wife Lucy and their 3 children) later in the summer
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Old May 10, 2015 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
lol, and believe or not, I will on holiday with him (and his
wife Lucy and their 3 children) later in the summer
Of course you will.
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Old May 10, 2015 | 11:59 AM
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Lol, yes I will
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Old May 11, 2015 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by stilover
In Harry Enfields voice....

"I am considerably richer than Yow"

Considerably Richer Than You - Harry Enfield and Chums - BBC - YouTube



And name dropping too.

I'm going to shamelessly nick this from a tweet by JK Rowling, amended as appropriate:

Hodgy, The Internet doesn’t just offer opportunities for bragging, you know. ***** enlargers can also be bought discreetly.
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Old May 11, 2015 | 11:13 AM
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Shameless name dropping? It's like saying I'm going on holiday with Ken Dodd is something worth bragging about!
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Old May 11, 2015 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Devildog


And name dropping too.

I'm going to shamelessly nick this from a tweet by JK Rowling, amended as appropriate:

Hodgy, The Internet doesn’t just offer opportunities for bragging, you know. ***** enlargers can also be bought discreetly.
lol, with 5 kids - I don't need it
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Old May 11, 2015 | 09:26 PM
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People who do work, but due to our inististant on building a low wage, low skill economy built on zero hour / temporary work (remember I posted on the inevitable growth of these 5 years ago)

I don't think anyone has insisted....those are the only jobs available to many, many, many people, especially in the north, after Thatcher finished with us.
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Old May 11, 2015 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mrtheedge2u2
On a person by person basis there will always be winners and losers but if you vote for who will serve the country best and not who will serve YOU best then I believe the country has won by keeping the Conservatives in power.


Spot on .......
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