Clarkson has been sacked
25 March 2015, 10:24 PM
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The BBC are quite happy to carry on feeding us violence in story lines including faces getting smacked on "Eastenders" etc on a weekly basis with no come back, so why are they in such a tizz about this?
What gets me is that they are using considerable sums of our money to make a point with.
If it's a Police matter, it should have just been left to them. It's ironic the Beeb going for a "Kangaroo Court" considering they ignored the rumours about Rolf Harris.
What gets me is that they are using considerable sums of our money to make a point with.
If it's a Police matter, it should have just been left to them. It's ironic the Beeb going for a "Kangaroo Court" considering they ignored the rumours about Rolf Harris.
25 March 2015, 10:29 PM
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25 March 2015, 10:37 PM
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The official Investigation findings do seem a little biased (and a strangely unique filename)!
There is no information as to what caused Jezza to be upset, or whether the "fracas" was just one way or mutual - lets face it, if someone is slagging you off, you probably won't stay silent, and certainly not for the elsewhere reported 30 minutes. It doesn't take 30 seconds to hit somebody either (could have just been a scuffle)! Also, it doesn't say that Jezza was drunk (as suggested from other sources).
I am sure that more facts will appear in the near future (unless gagged by the BBC),
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There is no information as to what caused Jezza to be upset, or whether the "fracas" was just one way or mutual - lets face it, if someone is slagging you off, you probably won't stay silent, and certainly not for the elsewhere reported 30 minutes. It doesn't take 30 seconds to hit somebody either (could have just been a scuffle)! Also, it doesn't say that Jezza was drunk (as suggested from other sources).
I am sure that more facts will appear in the near future (unless gagged by the BBC),
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25 March 2015, 10:48 PM
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Not sure what employment law would say on technical grounds, but he was suspended from duty during a limited duration of contract and will not be required to fulfill his duties for the remainder of this contract, after which the contract will not be renewed.
Effectively, he's been sacked!
Effectively, he's been sacked!
25 March 2015, 10:54 PM
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LOL I wonder if the people who signed that petition and supported JC with their blind faith in him still think how great he is, with his foul temper over steak and chips.
Now they know that physical assault was involved, not just verbal abuse. But I bet quite a lot of them still think that sun permanently shines through his bumhole.
Fancy busting someone lip and giving them prolonged verbal because you can't get hot food. Even if that producer called him the biggest moodafooka on this earth for demanding hot food, you just don't lash out and punch them on their mouth like that, and then laugh about it in public with calling your bosses effing barswards for suspending you and mock the situation with "Oooh, I need to line up at the job centre tomorrow!" and things like that. This already millionaire presenter has been such a bad model with his childish behaviour for his fans, and makes a cruel joke of those jobless grafters who do have to queue at the job centre with low heart and a few coins in their pocket.
I like his quick wit and some of his humour, but his well-deserved punishment was self-inflicted. Still a landmark publicity for him that he thrives on, so he lost nothing as such.
Fans have lost nothing either, as he'll be out with another show soon, and publicly laugh about punching the victim again as one of his trophy-like experiences.
Now they know that physical assault was involved, not just verbal abuse. But I bet quite a lot of them still think that sun permanently shines through his bumhole. Fancy busting someone lip and giving them prolonged verbal because you can't get hot food. Even if that producer called him the biggest moodafooka on this earth for demanding hot food, you just don't lash out and punch them on their mouth like that, and then laugh about it in public with calling your bosses effing barswards for suspending you and mock the situation with "Oooh, I need to line up at the job centre tomorrow!" and things like that. This already millionaire presenter has been such a bad model with his childish behaviour for his fans, and makes a cruel joke of those jobless grafters who do have to queue at the job centre with low heart and a few coins in their pocket.
I like his quick wit and some of his humour, but his well-deserved punishment was self-inflicted. Still a landmark publicity for him that he thrives on, so he lost nothing as such.
Fans have lost nothing either, as he'll be out with another show soon, and publicly laugh about punching the victim again as one of his trophy-like experiences.
25 March 2015, 11:20 PM
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The end of Top Gear, perhaps. Big deal.
The biggest consequence of this is lost revenue for the BBC, hence why they will inevitably try to resurrect it with new presenters. The show was more hackneyed than Shaftesbury Avenue after the final curtain.
As I said in my previously deleted post, two fat blokes and a midget poncing about in cars virtually nobody can afford anyway. Re-jigging that is an easy call for anyone with a bit of nous, as it desperately needed a change of tack anyway.
I doubt the BBC will pull it off though.
The biggest consequence of this is lost revenue for the BBC, hence why they will inevitably try to resurrect it with new presenters. The show was more hackneyed than Shaftesbury Avenue after the final curtain.
As I said in my previously deleted post, two fat blokes and a midget poncing about in cars virtually nobody can afford anyway. Re-jigging that is an easy call for anyone with a bit of nous, as it desperately needed a change of tack anyway.
I doubt the BBC will pull it off though.
25 March 2015, 11:37 PM
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I'd imagine so, but then we don't know the cicumstances and the stipulations involved in what they were currently filming. Christ knows what may have been written in their contract, you know what celebrities and their 'riders' can be like.
Given there was an apparent 30 minute argument both parties would have both said things they shouldn't have and obviously one took it a step too far.
Must say I'm loving the anti clarkson opinions based on what they've read in the media. Typical that it's those normally anti media posters who are now using it to suit their agenda.
Given there was an apparent 30 minute argument both parties would have both said things they shouldn't have and obviously one took it a step too far.
Must say I'm loving the anti clarkson opinions based on what they've read in the media. Typical that it's those normally anti media posters who are now using it to suit their agenda.
25 March 2015, 11:41 PM
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I'd imagine so, but then we don't know the cicumstances and the stipulations involved in what they were currently filming. Christ knows what may have been written in their contract, you know what celebrities and their 'riders' can be like.
Given there was an apparent 30 minute argument both parties would have both said things they shouldn't have and obviously one took it a step too far.
Must say I'm loving the anti clarkson opinions based on what they've read in the media. Typical that it's those normally anti media posters who are now using it to suit their agenda.
Given there was an apparent 30 minute argument both parties would have both said things they shouldn't have and obviously one took it a step too far.
Must say I'm loving the anti clarkson opinions based on what they've read in the media. Typical that it's those normally anti media posters who are now using it to suit their agenda.
Has even Clarkson denied any of this?
26 March 2015, 12:05 AM
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I'd have hit you for saying that if you were close enough
They are the worst possible candidates. An racing driver, a sort-of/ex racing driver, an annoying horsey woman and another racing driver. At least you didn't mention the honey monster (although he's not that bad to read, just terrible on camera).
As I said in my previously deleted post, two fat blokes and a midget poncing about in cars virtually nobody can afford anyway. Re-jigging that is an easy call for anyone with a bit of nous, as it desperately needed a change of tack anyway.
I doubt the BBC will pull it off though.
I doubt the BBC will pull it off though.
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26 March 2015, 12:56 AM
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I can see it as the BBC will lose out on hundreds of millions of £s, which they will use as an excuse to put up the licence fee.
No Top Gear, half a season of Grand Prix and the best thing they have left will be Pointless. Surely that's not worth the licence fee!
No Top Gear, half a season of Grand Prix and the best thing they have left will be Pointless. Surely that's not worth the licence fee!
26 March 2015, 08:55 AM
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The only BBC programmes I will watch now are their natural history ones so basically anything with David Attenborough in it or the SpringWatch/Autumn Watch programmes. Other than that there is nothing on BBC or the TV generally I will watch apart from any decent films that get shown, oh and Dave obviously for endless repeats of Top Gear.
26 March 2015, 10:35 AM
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Obviously you guys haven't worked in the places I have worked: Full on fist fights have happened. We get over it, we carry on.
And indeed on a couple of occasions it was during a hard day when lunch was skipped. Skipping lunch does bad things; even I've been on both the receiving and dishing-out end. And almost always its usually the silly stuff that causes the worst of altercations too.
Indeed I've learnt that skipping on breaks ruins the day and general workplace moral, even now being asked to cut short a break because a customer wants something done there and then will get my back up...f**k-em they come during lunch time during THEIR lunch break and expect ME not to have lunch?...I hope you can see how that can cause issues if it were not addressed correctly.
I've got into one right old barmy over getting blocked in on the car park (it was deliberate...IMO), another was down to the way I shut the office door (the door is f**ked so it never shuts properly), and another over the way I looked at the gaffer when he said something utterly idiotic...yeah I got into a fight for a real-life implied facepalm. All stupid reason to get into a fight..be it intensely verbal or physical.
My problem is I don't back down, I rarely do once I'm fired up. And there are guys I've work with/for in past and present have been the same. So in a situation when the other person doesn't back down everything just escalates and escalates. It just takes something silly to light the fire and all hell can brake loose.
I admit I've done it, I'm not proud. But if I don't stand my ground when the situation becomes unreasonable, then it just gets worse and worse until something snaps. I can understand that going for most of the day without food only to be told at the end there's just some cold nibbles would have me seething to say the least...it actually happened once during a stag weekend...luckily I found a maccy-D's that was still open, crisis/armageddon averted.
And indeed on a couple of occasions it was during a hard day when lunch was skipped. Skipping lunch does bad things; even I've been on both the receiving and dishing-out end. And almost always its usually the silly stuff that causes the worst of altercations too.
Indeed I've learnt that skipping on breaks ruins the day and general workplace moral, even now being asked to cut short a break because a customer wants something done there and then will get my back up...f**k-em they come during lunch time during THEIR lunch break and expect ME not to have lunch?...I hope you can see how that can cause issues if it were not addressed correctly.
I've got into one right old barmy over getting blocked in on the car park (it was deliberate...IMO), another was down to the way I shut the office door (the door is f**ked so it never shuts properly), and another over the way I looked at the gaffer when he said something utterly idiotic...yeah I got into a fight for a real-life implied facepalm. All stupid reason to get into a fight..be it intensely verbal or physical.
My problem is I don't back down, I rarely do once I'm fired up. And there are guys I've work with/for in past and present have been the same. So in a situation when the other person doesn't back down everything just escalates and escalates. It just takes something silly to light the fire and all hell can brake loose.
I admit I've done it, I'm not proud. But if I don't stand my ground when the situation becomes unreasonable, then it just gets worse and worse until something snaps. I can understand that going for most of the day without food only to be told at the end there's just some cold nibbles would have me seething to say the least...it actually happened once during a stag weekend...luckily I found a maccy-D's that was still open, crisis/armageddon averted.
People have rows, I accept that, even some quite nasty ones, but once you hit them, it's too far. Clarkson is an international star, for some (god knows why) is probably a role model, something to aspire to. Hitting someone because you didn't get some food is a rubbish excuse. No doubt the producer had to work just as hard, as did the rest of the crew, it's not like a brawl ensued. I've had to work extremely long hours, under extreme stress, with only coffee and a few **** to keep me going, never once did it occur to me to hit the person who had caused the situation.
He is, as even he admits, a dinosaur.
I'm sure he will make a bomb on whatever channels he goes to, though.
26 March 2015, 10:48 AM
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You are joking right?
TG in its current format was conceived by Clarkson and Wilman. Other countries have tried to copy the format, without anywhere as near the success of 'our' version. Clarkson kind of is Top Gear.
And the beeb has charged the head of bbc2 to reinvent it for 2016. She is a woman, and probably not a petrol head. Probably end up as loose women does top gear.
TG in its current format was conceived by Clarkson and Wilman. Other countries have tried to copy the format, without anywhere as near the success of 'our' version. Clarkson kind of is Top Gear.
And the beeb has charged the head of bbc2 to reinvent it for 2016. She is a woman, and probably not a petrol head. Probably end up as loose women does top gear.
Secondly, I said it would be difficult for the BBC to get it right and make a popular show. It will be extremely, and I think the show is probably left in the pages of history now, but you or I do not know what the future holds. It could turn out to be better, it could turn out to be dog ****.
So no, I wasn't joking, but I didn't say what you think I said.
As for Rolf Harris, rumours is one thing, a complaint is another. Or if Rolf Harris had fessed up, which is what Clarkson did.
26 March 2015, 11:18 AM
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Obviously you guys haven't worked in the places I have worked: Full on fist fights have happened. We get over it, we carry on.
And indeed on a couple of occasions it was during a hard day when lunch was skipped. Skipping lunch does bad things; even I've been on both the receiving and dishing-out end. And almost always its usually the silly stuff that causes the worst of altercations too.
Indeed I've learnt that skipping on breaks ruins the day and general workplace moral, even now being asked to cut short a break because a customer wants something done there and then will get my back up...f**k-em they come during lunch time during THEIR lunch break and expect ME not to have lunch?...I hope you can see how that can cause issues if it were not addressed correctly.
I've got into one right old barmy over getting blocked in on the car park (it was deliberate...IMO), another was down to the way I shut the office door (the door is f**ked so it never shuts properly), and another over the way I looked at the gaffer when he said something utterly idiotic...yeah I got into a fight for a real-life implied facepalm. All stupid reason to get into a fight..be it intensely verbal or physical.
My problem is I don't back down, I rarely do once I'm fired up. And there are guys I've work with/for in past and present have been the same. So in a situation when the other person doesn't back down everything just escalates and escalates. It just takes something silly to light the fire and all hell can brake loose.
I admit I've done it, I'm not proud. But if I don't stand my ground when the situation becomes unreasonable, then it just gets worse and worse until something snaps. I can understand that going for most of the day without food only to be told at the end there's just some cold nibbles would have me seething to say the least...it actually happened once during a stag weekend...luckily I found a maccy-D's that was still open, crisis/armageddon averted.
And indeed on a couple of occasions it was during a hard day when lunch was skipped. Skipping lunch does bad things; even I've been on both the receiving and dishing-out end. And almost always its usually the silly stuff that causes the worst of altercations too.
Indeed I've learnt that skipping on breaks ruins the day and general workplace moral, even now being asked to cut short a break because a customer wants something done there and then will get my back up...f**k-em they come during lunch time during THEIR lunch break and expect ME not to have lunch?...I hope you can see how that can cause issues if it were not addressed correctly.
I've got into one right old barmy over getting blocked in on the car park (it was deliberate...IMO), another was down to the way I shut the office door (the door is f**ked so it never shuts properly), and another over the way I looked at the gaffer when he said something utterly idiotic...yeah I got into a fight for a real-life implied facepalm. All stupid reason to get into a fight..be it intensely verbal or physical.
My problem is I don't back down, I rarely do once I'm fired up. And there are guys I've work with/for in past and present have been the same. So in a situation when the other person doesn't back down everything just escalates and escalates. It just takes something silly to light the fire and all hell can brake loose.
I admit I've done it, I'm not proud. But if I don't stand my ground when the situation becomes unreasonable, then it just gets worse and worse until something snaps. I can understand that going for most of the day without food only to be told at the end there's just some cold nibbles would have me seething to say the least...it actually happened once during a stag weekend...luckily I found a maccy-D's that was still open, crisis/armageddon averted.
What sort of work place is that, anyway?
To my knowledge, even on the shop floors of some half prestigious factories, verbal as well as physical assaults are unacceptable. I hear that catering can be the industry where loads of verbal can be tolerated from the overworked chef, but I've known of a very recent incident when a top chef in some Italian has been sacked for pushing a temp waiter in a rage. Despite it beng common place where yo work, or what your opinion of it is, for most people, assault in the workplace is never acceptable.
People have rows, I accept that, even some quite nasty ones, but once you hit them, it's too far. Clarkson is an international star, for some (god knows why) is probably a role model, something to aspire to. Hitting someone because you didn't get some food is a rubbish excuse. No doubt the producer had to work just as hard, as did the rest of the crew, it's not like a brawl ensued. I've had to work extremely long hours, under extreme stress, with only coffee and a few **** to keep me going, never once did it occur to me to hit the person who had caused the situation.
He is, as even he admits, a dinosaur.
I'm sure he will make a bomb on whatever channels he goes to, though.
People have rows, I accept that, even some quite nasty ones, but once you hit them, it's too far. Clarkson is an international star, for some (god knows why) is probably a role model, something to aspire to. Hitting someone because you didn't get some food is a rubbish excuse. No doubt the producer had to work just as hard, as did the rest of the crew, it's not like a brawl ensued. I've had to work extremely long hours, under extreme stress, with only coffee and a few **** to keep me going, never once did it occur to me to hit the person who had caused the situation.
He is, as even he admits, a dinosaur.
I'm sure he will make a bomb on whatever channels he goes to, though.
You have to be warped to think that one should 'get over it' and move on.
26 March 2015, 11:53 AM
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