CH4: Things we won't say about race that are true
20 March 2015, 04:12 PM
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20 March 2015, 09:03 PM
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you're at it again, dog with a bone to pick. It's no surprise that the vast majority of people getting drunk are white, that is because despite what the various racist propaganda certain groups trot out would like us all to believe, the vast majority of people in the UK are white. You obviously have your own personal agenda with regards this particular subject, you need to try and look at things from all sides as you just come across as an angry white man from the 70's and 80's with that "they're all coming over here stealing our jobs and women" type attitude, whilst failing to realise that they were invited to do the jobs the white indigenous population thought below them. Just because a certain minority cause a few problems it's not reason enough to stop and search everyone, they tried that with the sus (SP) laws in the 80's and all it did was lead to mass riots up and down the country culminating in the beheading of a police officer, would you like to see a return to such antics? Which only serves to prove that if you treat people like animals for long enough eventually they will become animals. Oh and please define "Look suspicious" is that tight curly hair and big lips. 
There are 2 sides to every argument. Just because someone has a different opinion to you doesn't mean they are a bad person, racist, stupid or ignorant it means they have different life experiences to you.
In fact if you'd actually have watched the programme in question you'd realise it was aimed at people like you and as the op has said its actually opinions like yours, not mine, that is causing racial tension.
20 March 2015, 11:26 PM
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If you seriously believe what you just wrote then you have a problem!
21 March 2015, 12:09 AM
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Racism is ugly, perhaps the ugliest being hating ones own race.
I don't understand why either of you get so heated about a subject which should be as open to discussion as any other.
21 March 2015, 12:15 AM
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Exactly, I'm HALF WHITE the people I love most left in this world are WHITE mother son and wife, I don't see how my opinions can even begin to be biased most of my current best friends are white and I grew up with Pakistanis, Indians, Jamaicans and whites, I don't know many people that could possibly have a broader social spectrum and point of view than mine, as well as the fact that I'm completely open and quite able to see things for what they are, most people that truly know me think I'm quite smart and very worldly wise, I have my opinions but don't get too caught up by them.
I don't ere on one side or the other but I have been a victim from all sides, now we all have choices in life and one can either choose to accept that things will never be perfect or you can fight and become bitter like those you oppose, much like my creed I chose the middle ground and balance between the two because neither is correct in my experience, also hate is an all consuming emotion that I prefer not to succumb too.
Edit to add; I also don't have a problem with being shown the error of my ways and being proved wrong, life is a learning experience and one should never have a problem with being able to change a point of view based on on new information.
I'm HALF WHITE the people I love most left in this world are WHITE mother son and wife, I don't see how my opinions can even begin to be biased most of my current best friends are white and I grew up with Pakistanis, Indians, Jamaicans and whites, I don't know many people that could possibly have a broader social spectrum and point of view than mine, as well as the fact that I'm completely open and quite able to see things for what they are, most people that truly know me think I'm quite smart and very worldly wise, I have my opinions but don't get too caught up by them.I don't ere on one side or the other but I have been a victim from all sides, now we all have choices in life and one can either choose to accept that things will never be perfect or you can fight and become bitter like those you oppose, much like my creed I chose the middle ground and balance between the two because neither is correct in my experience, also hate is an all consuming emotion that I prefer not to succumb too.
Edit to add; I also don't have a problem with being shown the error of my ways and being proved wrong, life is a learning experience and one should never have a problem with being able to change a point of view based on on new information.
Last edited by ditchmyster; 21 March 2015 at 12:28 AM.
21 March 2015, 12:38 AM
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And you aren't like a dog with a bone? You're also pushing the anti-White, pro multi cultural UK.
There are 2 sides to every argument. Just because someone has a different opinion to you doesn't mean they are a bad person, racist, stupid or ignorant it means they have different life experiences to you.
In fact if you'd actually have watched the programme in question you'd realise it was aimed at people like you and as the op has said its actually opinions like yours, not mine, that is causing racial tension.
There are 2 sides to every argument. Just because someone has a different opinion to you doesn't mean they are a bad person, racist, stupid or ignorant it means they have different life experiences to you.
In fact if you'd actually have watched the programme in question you'd realise it was aimed at people like you and as the op has said its actually opinions like yours, not mine, that is causing racial tension.
Nope I never watched the program, I'm in Croatia and only recently got BBC Iplayer.
I think if you have a look at my past posts you'll find that no terms or discussion matter is "out of bounds" for me as as far as I'm concerned they are just words and I, Me< Myself and I am in control of their effect.
21 March 2015, 12:56 AM
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Unsurprising as your comments also tend to be anti-White nonsense after a good old left wing brainwashing.
Racism is ugly, perhaps the ugliest being hating ones own race.
I don't understand why either of you get so heated about a subject which should be as open to discussion as any other.
Racism is ugly, perhaps the ugliest being hating ones own race.
I don't understand why either of you get so heated about a subject which should be as open to discussion as any other.
Which FYI are a race of mongrels, much like myself.
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21 March 2015, 08:10 AM
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5 replies but apparently I'm the angry one .
I love the old "I'm not racist as my (insert relative/friend here) is (insert race here).
Apparently you aren't racist but you've called me "an angry white man from the 70's or 80's" in this thread. So you've taken something I've said and presumed my race from it. I'm not offended by being called white, I'm offended by the hypocrisy and the new agenda everyone seems to have of censoring the white british but allowing everyone else to say what they like.
I actually believe in equality, and that everyone should actually be able to say what they like. If a certain trait is typical of a race then we should say it out loud in the hope that it would shame that race to evolve and change the error in their ways.
And that was what this programme was about, using facts to say that actually certain things regarding different races were actually true, and that we shouldn't be afraid to say them. And, as he was employed to help integration and spent 10 years believing things shouldn't be said, and now realises that was categorically wrong.
Nobody is afraid to say that drunken fighting at weekends is a "white disease" but it would be racist to say that even though Romanians make up less than 1% of the population are to blame for 30% of pickpocketing in the capital.
It's perfectly acceptable for a major channel to broadcast a black man saying the n word. But a white person mutters it on a recording which was never broadcast and all hell breaks loose. How many people have the opinion that Jeremy Clarkson is racist? How many people think the same of Kanye West?. Equality? Or the left making a mockery of its own beliefs.
Just as it is hypocritical of a certain member to bleat on about other people being racist, then go on and on about how he hates England, the english flag and football fan's (typically white working class).
. I love the old "I'm not racist as my (insert relative/friend here) is (insert race here)
. Apparently you aren't racist but you've called me "an angry white man from the 70's or 80's" in this thread. So you've taken something I've said and presumed my race from it. I'm not offended by being called white, I'm offended by the hypocrisy and the new agenda everyone seems to have of censoring the white british but allowing everyone else to say what they like.
I actually believe in equality, and that everyone should actually be able to say what they like. If a certain trait is typical of a race then we should say it out loud in the hope that it would shame that race to evolve and change the error in their ways.
And that was what this programme was about, using facts to say that actually certain things regarding different races were actually true, and that we shouldn't be afraid to say them. And, as he was employed to help integration and spent 10 years believing things shouldn't be said, and now realises that was categorically wrong.
Nobody is afraid to say that drunken fighting at weekends is a "white disease" but it would be racist to say that even though Romanians make up less than 1% of the population are to blame for 30% of pickpocketing in the capital.
It's perfectly acceptable for a major channel to broadcast a black man saying the n word. But a white person mutters it on a recording which was never broadcast and all hell breaks loose. How many people have the opinion that Jeremy Clarkson is racist? How many people think the same of Kanye West?. Equality? Or the left making a mockery of its own beliefs.
Just as it is hypocritical of a certain member to bleat on about other people being racist, then go on and on about how he hates England, the english flag and football fan's (typically white working class).
21 March 2015, 08:45 AM
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No Kwik, I am not anti-white, but to you my views may seem to be anti-white because you are twisted and bitter.
Just because I don't like football fans that cause trouble, lazy people and people who get drunk and fight does not make me anti-white or even anti-English.
Also you need to understand that words themselves are not necessarily offensive, but it's how they are used that makes them so and then you can stop banging on about Kanye West.
Just because I don't like football fans that cause trouble, lazy people and people who get drunk and fight does not make me anti-white or even anti-English.
Also you need to understand that words themselves are not necessarily offensive, but it's how they are used that makes them so and then you can stop banging on about Kanye West.
21 March 2015, 09:00 AM
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Just to sum up
Whites get drunk and have a punch up, race or religion unimportant they fight whoever
Blacks rob people again race or religion unimportant, money in your wallet moreso
Pakis rape young white girls and groom them for sex etc
Romanians steal our metal and walk round with shopping trolleys
I know which one i see as racist there
Whites get drunk and have a punch up, race or religion unimportant they fight whoever
Blacks rob people again race or religion unimportant, money in your wallet moreso
Pakis rape young white girls and groom them for sex etc
Romanians steal our metal and walk round with shopping trolleys
I know which one i see as racist there
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21 March 2015, 09:06 AM
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Just to sum up
Whites get drunk and have a punch up, race or religion unimportant they fight whoever
Blacks rob people again race or religion unimportant, money in your wallet moreso
Pakis rape young white girls and groom them for sex etc
Romanians steal our metal and walk round with shopping trolleys
I know which one i see as racist there
Whites get drunk and have a punch up, race or religion unimportant they fight whoever
Blacks rob people again race or religion unimportant, money in your wallet moreso
Pakis rape young white girls and groom them for sex etc
Romanians steal our metal and walk round with shopping trolleys
I know which one i see as racist there
They seem to have the biggest Chips on their shoulder
21 March 2015, 09:29 AM
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Just to sum up
Whites get drunk and have a punch up, race or religion unimportant they fight whoever
Blacks rob people again race or religion unimportant, money in your wallet moreso
Pakis rape young white girls and groom them for sex etc
Romanians steal our metal and walk round with shopping trolleys
I know which one i see as racist there
Whites get drunk and have a punch up, race or religion unimportant they fight whoever
Blacks rob people again race or religion unimportant, money in your wallet moreso
Pakis rape young white girls and groom them for sex etc
Romanians steal our metal and walk round with shopping trolleys
I know which one i see as racist there
Pakis are also masters of fraud too! We have also monopolised the cash for cash market.
21 March 2015, 10:02 AM
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No Kwik, I am not anti-white, but to you my views may seem to be anti-white because you are twisted and bitter. Just because I don't like football fans that cause trouble, lazy people and people who get drunk and fight does not make me anti-white or even anti-English. Also you need to understand that words themselves are not necessarily offensive, but it's how they are used that makes them so and then you can stop banging on about Kanye West.
You can then explain why in the 21st century there is a word that can be used by one race but not another, which is racist in itself.
Equality remember, one rule for everyone, nobody is to be treated any differently
.Somehow I don't think you will. Instead just call names and play down my intelligence. That's your usual response when you're backed into a corner lol.
21 March 2015, 11:07 AM
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21 March 2015, 11:38 AM
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5 replies but apparently I'm the angry one .
I love the old "I'm not racist as my (insert relative/friend here) is (insert race here).
Apparently you aren't racist but you've called me "an angry white man from the 70's or 80's" in this thread. So you've taken something I've said and presumed my race from it. I'm not offended by being called white, I'm offended by the hypocrisy and the new agenda everyone seems to have of censoring the white british but allowing everyone else to say what they like.
I actually believe in equality, and that everyone should actually be able to say what they like. If a certain trait is typical of a race then we should say it out loud in the hope that it would shame that race to evolve and change the error in their ways.
And that was what this programme was about, using facts to say that actually certain things regarding different races were actually true, and that we shouldn't be afraid to say them. And, as he was employed to help integration and spent 10 years believing things shouldn't be said, and now realises that was categorically wrong.
Nobody is afraid to say that drunken fighting at weekends is a "white disease" but it would be racist to say that even though Romanians make up less than 1% of the population are to blame for 30% of pickpocketing in the capital.
It's perfectly acceptable for a major channel to broadcast a black man saying the n word. But a white person mutters it on a recording which was never broadcast and all hell breaks loose. How many people have the opinion that Jeremy Clarkson is racist? How many people think the same of Kanye West?. Equality? Or the left making a mockery of its own beliefs.
Just as it is hypocritical of a certain member to bleat on about other people being racist, then go on and on about how he hates England, the english flag and football fan's (typically white working class).
. I love the old "I'm not racist as my (insert relative/friend here) is (insert race here)
. Apparently you aren't racist but you've called me "an angry white man from the 70's or 80's" in this thread. So you've taken something I've said and presumed my race from it. I'm not offended by being called white, I'm offended by the hypocrisy and the new agenda everyone seems to have of censoring the white british but allowing everyone else to say what they like.
I actually believe in equality, and that everyone should actually be able to say what they like. If a certain trait is typical of a race then we should say it out loud in the hope that it would shame that race to evolve and change the error in their ways.
And that was what this programme was about, using facts to say that actually certain things regarding different races were actually true, and that we shouldn't be afraid to say them. And, as he was employed to help integration and spent 10 years believing things shouldn't be said, and now realises that was categorically wrong.
Nobody is afraid to say that drunken fighting at weekends is a "white disease" but it would be racist to say that even though Romanians make up less than 1% of the population are to blame for 30% of pickpocketing in the capital.
It's perfectly acceptable for a major channel to broadcast a black man saying the n word. But a white person mutters it on a recording which was never broadcast and all hell breaks loose. How many people have the opinion that Jeremy Clarkson is racist? How many people think the same of Kanye West?. Equality? Or the left making a mockery of its own beliefs.
Just as it is hypocritical of a certain member to bleat on about other people being racist, then go on and on about how he hates England, the english flag and football fan's (typically white working class).
As for the comments about my best mate etc, I know it's corny but I was just trying to show I'm a true product of this multi-cultural experiment in every sense of the word as I grew up in a family with two different cultures and spent a lot of my time as a small boy in the house of my grand mothers Pakistani neighbours with their twin boys the same age as me and they were lovely people, on the other side was a Jamaican family, next to them were Indians, Polish across the road and Africans at the end of the street and we all got along famously.
As for the angry white man comments you do come across a little like that, which is what I said, but I can see some of your point of view and don't see you as being racist, more a bit of a teller of the uncomfortable truth from the perspective of a proud British man, which I personally don't have a problem with.
Words are exactly that and I don't believe that any should be out of bounds, it's always going to be about the context and I think we're all smart enough to know when someone has malicious intent. The problem we're suffering from is the mere use of certain terms regardless of context has been turned into an "Offence" trying to Police it is always going to be a mine field as there will always be those who are "More" offended than others.
I still disagree with your profiling based on statistics though because regardless of whether you chose to believe it or not, they are more often than not manipulated to suit specific agendas and for me that's the only part of what you're saying that I take issue with.
Last edited by ditchmyster; 21 March 2015 at 12:27 PM.
21 March 2015, 11:51 AM
#57
2 massive fail's by goverments in last 30 year's.
FORCED SOCIAL INTERGRATION (building social housing right next to private estate's, and removing where you live school restriction's)
FORCED ETHNIC INTERGRATION,( no need to explain this one )
both have failed and are still failing to this day, because sadly we are all HUMAN, and a large % of us believe in adult fairy tales and unlike animals can't just get along.
FORCED SOCIAL INTERGRATION (building social housing right next to private estate's, and removing where you live school restriction's)
FORCED ETHNIC INTERGRATION,( no need to explain this one )
both have failed and are still failing to this day, because sadly we are all HUMAN, and a large % of us believe in adult fairy tales and unlike animals can't just get along.
