ditchmyster

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Bullies are everywhere, why would the internet be any different.

stipete75

IMO karate is a dying art, there seems to be more and more effective fighting styles in the mainstream now, most readily available to learn.
I haven't a clue who this Russian dude is but damn he is super quick and super deadly with all the throat strikes etc.

mantazini

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You're going down biiaaaattchhh

mantazini

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Russian ffs , he's French..

ditchmyster

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You right it is a dying art and that's because most people don't make it to the stage where you learn how to use it, Black belt has always been seen as something that means your a bit of a bad ***, but it's not strictly true, especially in more recent times.

All you've really done when you get to black belt is conditioned yourself and learned the style through Kata, Acting out the moves with a partner helps each person to get a feel for the style and movements but there is a big difference between that and some dude down the pub trying to shove a pint glass in your face.

My main teacher would of advised the best defence for that is not to be there, which a significant part of the ART, learning to spot trouble and remove yourself from it before you have to use violence, it's not just your body you should be conditioning it's the mind too, something which is lost these days.

There's a philosophy to Martial arts, remember the line on the Boat to the Island, "The art of fighting without fighting"

Back to my main point and what set this off.

I used to see it all the time in various classes I have attended, you go to Karate to learn Karate then when it comes to fighting they start jumping around like Kick Boxers, you didn't go to kick boxing so why would you expect to be any good at it

Then when they get there *** kicked by some wild street fighter they think Karate is useless, but that's because they weren't using it and never learned how to, what they actually did was go Kick boxing in a Karate dojo, it's like going to the dentist to have your hair done.

thenewgalaxy

I hear the hit girl from kick *** is looking for a new mentor for the third movie

mantazini

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Since when kick boxers started jumping. What you do for living , you shouldn't be here . You should be blasting in some top level fight promotion by the looks of it... i partly agree on what you say , but your Ego is bigger than what you really are fella.

jayallen

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41 different fighting styles! I've said it many times before, your tall tales crack me up!

The Pink Ninja

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Roll of duct tape an a bat will sort most styles out in reality...apparantly.

fat-thomas

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ditchy will sort you out,when he gets really mad he will send you a whinging p.m.
ive had two so far this year

Kwik

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Only in competition can any fighting styles be helpful. Although it teaches blocking and timing again it's useless down the pub. Kata and form are wastes of time and really the popularity of MMA will develop other martial arts more into fighting rather than ****ing about.

ditchmyster

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You really need to learn to read.

ditchmyster

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Ego has noting to do with it, it's just a conversation about a subject that I spent part of my life studying, No need to be abusive and join in with the play ground bullies.

I'm 48 mate so I'm a bit too old and wise to be rolling around the floor having my head pounded by men half my for money, but it doesn't stop me from having a conversation about Martial Arts or the general lack of it on the internet.

As for the Kick boxing thing it was just the closest thing that it looks like to me, because it sure as hell doesn't look like any Karate I've ever seen.

ditchmyster

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Well I tried ignoring you but you still carried on with your bollax.

So first off I sent you a polite request to stop trolling my serious threads, then since that didn't appear to have an effect, I sent you a slightly more direct one telling you to leave me out of your bull ****/bollox, which seems to have had a similar effect and fallen on deaf ears.

You really are very boring and rather pathetic little boy inside aren't you, why you feel the need to constantly pick on myself and others with your snide comments and little digs yet not actually add any content to discussions just shows me what a sad little boy you are.

I can only imagine that you have some serious inadequacy issues that must be a follow on from your childhood because you don't appear to have matured mentally beyond the age of 5 or 6.

It's ok dan none of us are perfect, you don't have to pick on other people so as not to draw attention to your own short comings.

Now I'm not going to bother to reply to you again and I'll again politely ask that you stop trolling me and go find someone else to pick on.

hodgy0_2

mmm, that's what he wants you to believe

fat-thomas

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epic from the racedriving tuning God ninja

ditchmyster

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Again this illustrates the point I'm making, people don't put the style into practice because they've not got to the stage or not been taught properly, to understand all the movements and the reasons for them, that's just poor training.

That's why stance and moving in patterns is important to keep distance maintain balance and not end up rolling around the floor with a guy that weighs 2 times what you do.

It's also conditioning mind and body, training yourself to be physically and mentally stronger as well as react in certain ways.

Everyone focuses on the fighting and macho bollax but it's more about not fighting being calm, inner peace you have to be at one with yourself, only then can you use what you have learned or more to the point not have to use it.

I know it sounds like bollax but it's really not, it's all about flowing with the movements and then it will come to you over time.

This modern world has taken something that was meant to provide well being and turned it into men rolling around the floor like dogs for money and hurting each other for gratification.

I can't speak for other "Styles" as I never did any for long enough but Shotokan Karate isn't bouncing around like a boxer throwing kicks and punching, it's a series of flowing movements designed to take energy out of an attackers movements, unbalance and disable them, it can be used to attack but it's primarily a defensive art.

stipete75

A genuine mistake on my part, was a rush post at work.
With regards to believing, I am of open mind.
You on the other hand are a sheep, there for believing everything the propaganda machine tells you.
Course I don't believe the elite who rule us are not active nonses,
Or Diana and Jill Dando were not murdered to protect the royals.
There's no way our governments would cause harm injuries and deaths to its own people.
There is no way our governments our tracking all our private emails, phone calls etc?
C'mon you would have to be mental to believe any of these things.

stipete75

This master is epic.

ditchmyster

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That's Jay's style, rolled up newspaper in the back pocket makes for a great weapon on the terraces.

Kwik

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I'm agreeing with you Ditch to an extent. My youngest lad doesn't get into rows, and if someone ends up hitting him then it has very little effect on him because he knows he can seriously hurt someone of his age. He's quite a sensitive lad, so wouldn't hurt someone because he wouldn't want to be treated that way but it's obvious when he's amongst his friends they know of his ability and tend to avoid messing with him. He's had a certain young lad in his class who just seems to go round hitting other kids, and then cries to his teacher if anything is done in retaliation. I've been tempted to tell him he was free to react in whatever way he wanted and I'd face his teacher if it came to it, but I don't think he would anyway. His Kung fu goes in three stages, little dragons (4 - 8) juniors (8-12) and then seniors for 12+. He's learnt the basics, they are just less strict on the technique at junior level and you can see the seniors have the technique drilled into them.

jayallen

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In all seriousness, my 4 year old daughter started "Little Ninjas" only yesterday, it's Tae Kwon Do for pre school.....She was a little weary because she is the only girl there which I found surprising but hopefully she will stick with it.

stipete75

I'd love for my kids to do tae Kwan do or Muay Thai but they would rather play the xbox or playstation lol, although my middle child does play footy.

jayallen

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My little girl also does Gymnastics on a Wednesday, if it wasn't for her age she would also be doing Street Dancing but no one will take her until she is 5.

I spent 9 years watching my son play football, from 4 years old playing inside where its like watching a swarm of bees, then onto astro turf and finally grass...He no longer plays but has just started to get back out on his BMX now he has his own car to take him to the parks.

ditchmyster

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It really does depend who teaches you, 41yrs ago when I started it was all quite new, over the years things have been dumbed down and a lot of these schools are about making money and less about the art.

I really wanted to do Aikido with my son but all the place I took him to were interested in was getting me to sign and commit two of us for a year and do a direct debit agreement through some sort of finance company/collection agency, my boy was 4yrs old at the time how do I know he'd like it and not want to quit after a month, shame because the students looked like they were pretty good, but no way was I going to commit to that from the off.

ditchmyster

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So you'll be handing over the baseball bat to her in a few years.

Well done though mate for getting her into a club, I view it as pretty much the best thing my parents did for me as a kid, it's something that stays with you your whole life, I'm pushing 50 and I can still kick above head height, start them young and they'll be flexible and fit their whole life.

skoobidude

Is this a thread about Enter The Dragon?

daveyj

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I'll stick with my Judo.......

I did it for a few weeks as a kid and, purely by fate, got introduced to it again by our local Sensei after a conversation about ADHD with my Osteopath, who also happens to be his. Started out in Aug 2013 and graded for my 4th Kyu (Orange Belt) last week. I'll compete in the winter generally as work's quieter (can't risk breakages as self-employed). Best thing I've ever got into tbh. We're not a club full of hot heads, although there is healthy competition/banter amongst us seniors. I do general training on Weds nights for 2hours and Kata training when work allows for another 2 hours on Fridays. We did a Kata course in Dorchester a few weeks back and it was awesome seeing 5th Dan Grades showing us the course as it is meant to look, not how us awkward lower belt grades do it.

The discipline and focus have helped my wayward mind no end and the excess energy getting transferred helps with sleep. It's nice having the discipline more than anything else. Showing the other half the latest shin bruises comes a close second.

I'd recommend it to anyone. Especially males (no sexism intended), purely to "get your gun off" if you are that way inclined. I always feel a lot less bothered after my weekly sessions. You also know, in the Dojo, you are safe. There are boundaries/safety mechanisms in place that aren't there in the outside world. Knowing you can look after yourself is very different to thinking it and there's no substitute for the former.

I'd love to take up Kick Boxing too, for something slightly higher tempo, but it's just not feasible. By the time you tot £90 a term of Judo up, travel, post Judo Yoga/therapy, Osteopath sessions the bank and the calendar say NOPE!

Martial Arts are a great social event and great for all ages and, if anyone's considering it, no matter what your age, I'd say have a go! I'm constantly ruing the fact I've started late. Despite feeling fitter than my 17yr old self, I don't recover quite like I could have back then.

daveyj

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Latest Television X film starring Deborah Meaden? Wonder if Peter Jones will leave his socks on?!

ditchmyster

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Good post daveyj, it sounds like you've found yourself a good dojo.

A good Osteopath is worth his weight in gold, mine is brilliant took me quite a few years and far too many duds to find him, but he's sorted my 15yr old shoulder injury out which would pop one of my ribs out and trap a nerve (no fun) I still go to see him when ever I can just to straighten me out every so often.