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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 09:23 AM
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Yet when I took you up on the offer you withdrew your invitation. Remember?
Probably did and the reason would have been justified at the time. However feel free to join. You have many questions which can be answered. Unfortunately I have lost a lot of respect that I had for you and this is one of the reasons I would not join you.
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 09:26 AM
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So why spread hate/lies? If you don't want to learn or are not willing to learn why then insist that lies are true when you clearly have no knowledge.
Mate you are clearly starting another thread about your religion spoiling for a fight.
Surely there must be a specific forum for it.
This is a Subaru forum and I doubt anyone really gives a **** other than you.
Pray to Sarah,invoke some law I couldn't care less in all honesty.
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Jesus Shaid, you really are loosing the plot nowadays, you knew when you created this thread which direction it would take, but still felt the need to create it anyway.

You really need to get that bag of chips off your shoulder and sort your **** out fella.
^^^^ this. Never a truer word spoken on Scoobynet
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 09:32 AM
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^^^^ this. Never a truer word spoken on Scoobynet
This thread is a magnet for all the gutter trash.
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
Mate you are clearly starting another thread about your religion spoiling for a fight.
Surely there must be a specific forum for it.
This is a Subaru forum and I doubt anyone really gives a **** other than you.
Pray to Sarah,invoke some law I couldn't care less in all honesty.
Have you ever said the same words to anyone else about starting such a thread here? Doubt it.... Goes to show the double standards that exist within your mindset. The rhetoric you use to describe us says all I need to know about you.
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaid
This thread is a magnet for all the gutter trash.
Is that the best you can do?

And "bottling it" is hardly a justifyable reason for withdrawing the invitation to JT
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaid
Have you ever said the same words to anyone else about starting such a thread here? Doubt it.... Goes to show the double standards that exist within your mindset. The rhetoric you use to describe us says all I need to know about you.
As as you are doing is quoting me for a response as nobody else is commenting I'll make this my last reply
In all honesty sioc offend me far more than you brain washed lot.
I find the post box woman a bit kinky in a way,I imagine them wearing suspenders underneath
Piece out shaid,love yah xxx
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaid on another thread
You want to learn about islam... Come over to gawaher.com and I'll be happy to debate. A subaru forum is not a place to learn of such things
Originally Posted by Shaid less than 24 hours later
Have you ever said the same words to anyone else about starting such a thread here? Doubt it.... Goes to show the double standards that exist within your mindset
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I marely invite people to it so that they can discuss their grieviences on a appropriate platform
And yet you start your very own thread on here, having accused others of trolling.

Perhaps you should f*ck off (a phrase you like to use) to a more appropriate platform Shaid, rather than being a complete fud on here?

Either that or drop the hypocricy and fix that gouge in your shoulder.
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
As as you are doing is quoting me for a response as nobody else is commenting I'll make this my last reply
In all honesty sioc offend me far more than you brain washed lot.
I find the post box woman a bit kinky in a way,I imagine them wearing suspenders underneath
Piece out shaid,love yah xxx
Love you too bro
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
Mate you are clearly starting another thread about your religion spoiling for a fight.
Surely there must be a specific forum for it.
So after literally years of people on here starting threads about Muslims (generally as a way to pick a fight with them and trot out a load of anti-Muslim rhetoric) you decide to criticise a Muslim for doing it
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Devildog
And yet you start your very own thread on here, having accused others of trolling.

Perhaps you should f*ck off (a phrase you like to use) to a more appropriate platform Shaid, rather than being a complete fud on here?

Either that or drop the hypocricy and fix that gouge in your shoulder.
I appreciate you feel inadequate. It is a natural feeling after all

Hence why you spread lies. Nevertheless this thread is about Muslims > Christians in Brum.

So please take my and your mutually agreed advice and **** off.
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
So after literally years of people on here starting threads about Muslims (generally as a way to pick a fight with them and trot out a load of anti-Muslim rhetoric) you decide to criticise a Muslim for doing it
It's my attempt at integration. My intention was to bait Maz and Jamal into a conversation and convert him. I didn't plan the rest hehe

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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
So after literally years of people on here starting threads about Muslims (generally as a way to pick a fight with them and trot out a load of anti-Muslim rhetoric) you decide to criticise a Muslim for doing it
I dont discriminate I hate everyone !
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Jesus Shaid, you really are loosing the plot nowadays, you knew when you created this thread which direction it would take, but still felt the need to create it anyway.

You really need to get that bag of chips off your shoulder and sort your **** out fella.
To be fair to Shaid I think he's probably had enough of certain people on here (not you by the way).

It seems to me that we still get a number of posters who love nothing more than to post fairly harsh anti-Muslim rhetoric and who, in some cases, are very guilty of tarring all Muslims with the extremist brush.

When Shaid or Maz or banny (not these days as he was driven out) or whoever try and add some balance they are metaphorically prodded with various 'sticks' until they get fed up and make a less than balanced retort whereupon the perpetrators state how said retort justifies their, frankly bigoted, opinions.

To go back to banny for a minute I have to say I find it very odd that the moderators of this board seem quite happy to see a member driven out of the community whose knowledge of and activity within the Subaru enthusiast scene is huge yet let certain other posters remain on the board who have no other agenda than to stir up racism, homophobia and misogyny and use the forum as a conduit to spout their nonsense and take pleasure in seeing people like banny leave for good!

If all that seems a bit strong then tough! It's about time someone told it like it is. There is a growing culture of bullying on this forum... in NSR it is about the issues I mention above whereas on General it tends to be more towards people that don't conform to the current 'breed' of Subaru enthusiast such as the crap that powerwrx gets from trinity's little clique for just trying to find the right car.

I have seriously questioned in recent weeks why I come back here as RTMs are basically ignored and frankly I find the treatment of some members of the board as utterly distasteful. There are two reasons I stay, one is that there are some posters on here who I very much enjoy interacting with and secondly I am not going to give the ****s the pleasure of driving me away too!

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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 10:08 AM
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moderators of this board seem quite happy to see a member driven out of the community whose knowledge of and activity within the Subaru enthusiast.

Not one person has F1
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamie
moderators of this board seem quite happy to see a member driven out of the community whose knowledge of and activity within the Subaru enthusiast.

Not one person has F1
Not one person has what? If you must post can you at least make it comprehendible?
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaid
I appreciate you feel inadequate. It is a natural feeling after all
You do realise that continually posting something only makes it real in your own mind?

Hence why you spread lies
Yep, same again

So please take my and your mutually agreed advice and **** off.
Ahh..your stock cop out. I wondered when that would appear
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Devildog
You do realise that continually posting something only makes it real in your own mind?



Yep, same again



Ahh..your stock cop out. I wondered when that would appear
I think it's fair to say we don't get on really innit?
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaid
So why spread hate/lies? If you don't want to learn or are not willing to learn why then insist that lies are true when you clearly have no knowledge.
Have you taken this grievance of yours up to the moderators? Lies and abuse can be very disturbing and damaging to the forum, and can be even lawfully challenged. Internet is accessible to all those official bodies that are to preserve peace and remove disturbance. I see that your way of dealing with all that is to cause another ripple, as you may feel that you aren't being heard by the ones responsible to keep peace and harmony here. Am I right?
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Have you taken this grievance of yours up to the moderators? Lies and abuse can be very disturbing and damaging to the forum, and can be even lawfully challenged. Internet is accessible to all those official bodies that are to preserve peace and remove disturbance. I see that your way of dealing with all that is to cause another ripple, as you may feel that you aren't being heard by the ones responsible to keep peace and harmony here. Am I right?
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
Has it ever occurred to you that the general Scoobynet user doesn't give two ***** about whatever made up religion you have been brain washed by??
I do, and I value his opinion. Shame some others can't just play nicely and listen.
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Originally Posted by Shaid
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Many thanks, Shaid.

Responded.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
To go back to banny for a minute I have to say I find it very odd that the moderators of this board seem quite happy to see a member driven out of the community whose knowledge of and activity within the Subaru enthusiast scene is huge yet let certain other posters remain on the board who have no other agenda than to stir up racism, homophobia and misogyny and use the forum as a conduit to spout their nonsense and take pleasure in seeing people like banny leave for good!
Out of order! I was far from happy when Banny contacted me about having a break from SN. He gave his reason for that to some degree and I respect his wish, but it made me anything but happy.

As for what others users are allowed to post, it is bloody hard drawing a line between what is a fair discussion, and what is out of bounds. People would be going mad if we just said, to hell, any topic involving anything to do with Islam is a no no. If we allow such topics (considering there are a lot of current affairs with Islam in some way involved) then where do we draw the line on what people can say? It's easy if someone uses offensive terms, a bit more difficult if people are 'just' voicing an opinion however much some of us may not agree with it.

I've already removed a comment from this thread that was not acceptable, there are plenty more that should have gone as well in my opinion, but as they have been replied to, it seems a bit pointless now. I will say though, I'd appreciate it if 'raghead' and the likes didn't keep cropping up though.

While on the subject of that particular term, it does actually surprise me that only one RTM came in about it, and I'll not name the person who did, but I will say I'm surprised by who didn't. And saying RTMs are ignored is a cop out, as yes, some are not acted upon, many are (including as I say, one on this thread).
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Out of order! I was far from happy when Banny contacted me about having a break from SN. He gave his reason for that to some degree and I respect his wish, but it made me anything but happy.

As for what others users are allowed to post, it is bloody hard drawing a line between what is a fair discussion, and what is out of bounds. People would be going mad if we just said, to hell, any topic involving anything to do with Islam is a no no. If we allow such topics (considering there are a lot of current affairs with Islam in some way involved) then where do we draw the line on what people can say? It's easy if someone uses offensive terms, a bit more difficult if people are 'just' voicing an opinion however much some of us may not agree with it.

I've already removed a comment from this thread that was not acceptable, there are plenty more that should have gone as well in my opinion, but as they have been replied to, it seems a bit pointless now. I will say though, I'd appreciate it if 'raghead' and the likes didn't keep cropping up though.

While on the subject of that particular term, it does actually surprise me that only one RTM came in about it, and I'll not name the person who did, but I will say I'm surprised by who didn't. And saying RTMs are ignored is a cop out, as yes, some are not acted upon, many are (including as I say, one on this thread).
My comments aren't particularly aimed at you Lisa as I feel you do more than your fair share, but the fact remains that there is a small set of people on here who get away with undertones of bigotry over and over again so my criticism is aimed at SN as a whole tbh!

If you feel I am being overly critical just ban me, but I am not going to back down over what I feel to be true.

You may not have been happy about banny leaving but nothing was done about the reasons why! Not that that should be solely down to you hence my comment!

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My comments aren't particularly aimed at you Lisa as I feel you do more than your fair share, but the fact remains that there is a small set of people on here who get away with undertones of bigotry over and over again so my criticism is aimed at SN as a whole tbh!

If you feel I am being overly critical just ban me, but I am not going to back down over what I feel to be true.

You may not have been happy about banny leaving but nothing was done about the reasons why! Not that that should be solely down to you hence my comment!
I'm not going to ban you for being critical. It's how you feel, and you are entitled to your view.

I'm not trying to avoid the issue, but I don't really want to discuss Banny, in the sense that I wouldn't want him to feel he's been talked about, if that makes sense. What I will say, is we are friends away from here too, and whenever he wishes to speak in depth about how he feels regarding SN, who/what specifically is the problem and if/how it can be resolved, then he knows I am always there for him.
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I'm not going to ban you for being critical. It's how you feel, and you are entitled to your view.

I'm not trying to avoid the issue, but I don't really want to discuss Banny, in the sense that I wouldn't want him to feel he's been talked about, if that makes sense. What I will say, is we are friends away from here too, and whenever he wishes to speak in depth about how he feels regarding SN, who/what specifically is the problem and if/how it can be resolved, then he knows I am always there for him.
Fair enough Lisa, but I think it's the whole undertone of the site that is the problem. It's very borderline I grant you, but I wouldn't come here if I were a Muslim given some of the general feeling from a certain section of the community. He's not the only one either btw, but anyway I have said my piece!
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Originally Posted by Shaid
I think it's fair to say we don't get on really innit?
Nice to see you getting something correct about me for a change

Its not because you're a Muslim, by the way. I just think you're a fud.

Which, given you've called me a *****, pretty much make it mutual
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Fair enough Lisa, but I think it's the whole undertone of the site that is the problem. It's very borderline I grant you, but I wouldn't come here if I were a Muslim given some of the general feeling from a certain section of the community. He's not the only one either btw, but anyway I have said my piece!
Chris

Shaid himself was banging on yesterday about democracy and acceptance of the majority view being the be all and end all.

If the majority view differs from his, then by his own words he should accept that, as should we all.

Can't have it every way mate.
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Chris

Shaid himself was banging on yesterday about democracy and acceptance of the majority view being the be all and end all.

If the majority view differs from his, then by his own words he should accept that, as should we all.

Can't have it every way mate.
'Majority view' according to what?
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I'm not bothered about religion either.
Yes, I guess that's why you only ever frequent Scoobynet or contribute to in any way unless there's a thread about religion involved.

Not religious my ar$e, your actually more religious than you think Shaid.
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