2 examples of how you can have seriously bad tyre pressure due to no fault of your own;

1:My daughters brand new car was delivered with 50psi in the tyres.This is how they are transported from the factory & should be rectified on the Pre-Delivery Inspection.

2:Last year I was in my mates airport hire car,a nearly brand new Honda Civic.It had a tyre inflation error on the screen which he chose to ignore.I persuaded him to check the tyres for obvious reasons.They were all at 3.2bar!!!! I guess some numpty at the hire car place thought it was 32psi.

 

If you lower your SPEED then you will have more time for positioning, judgement and anticipation of others etc.

It's a speed LIMIT not a target, if you drive round at the speed LIMIT on ever bit of road there will be times when you are going too fast, hence, SPEEDING for the conditions.
You don't have to be going over the the speed limit to be going too fast.

Idiot " But officer, l was only going 50mph and it's a 60mph limit"

Officer "But son, it was a 90 degree bend in very wet conditions with mud on the road"

 

I used to be too, but having just started doing a lot more driving again compared to the last decade I think the overall driving standards in this country have dropped to such a low level I almost wonder whether 70mph is too fast now.

The amount of tailgating, p1ss poor judgement, bad lane discipline, lack of attention and downright psychotic levels of aggression causing drivers to behave like ill tempered apes is beyond belief.

Some actual proper policing rathe than sitting in camera vans on bridges would not go amiss!

 

All speed limits are arbitrary.
Moses did not come down from Mt Sinai with these on his tablets (I'm hoping not to get pulled up on my 30+yr old R.E.)
As such they are frequently way off kilter with what is appropriate for any given road type and location, and therefore rigidly arguing your point based on them is too narrow minded.
Simply put, exceeding a speed limit is breaking the law and may be nothing more than that. Circumstances will dictate if a 'real' offence is being committed.

 

Yah, they just stick up any old figure on the sign

Purely to annoy the general public.



Have you been ticketed Maguire, it sounds like you bitter

 

I should add that I appreciate the need for some kind of limits, as if there were none and everyone had carte-blanche to do what speed they wanted it would be mayhem.
However I feel the limits should have a level of discretion about them (call them advisory if you like). After all, at one extreme, is doing 190mph down the four lane A1 near Peterborough at 3am with no one about really that big a deal? I wouldn't complain too much at 3 or 4 points and a fine, but banned for 3 years, £1000 fine and test retake. Really? You'd get less grief for slapping your wife about.
Move my hypothetical offence to 3pm. Different story.
Don't consider this on under-inflated tyres. Now that would be crazy.

 

Hands up, I've been ticketed numerous times. All on Dual carriageways or Motorways, and always by mobile camera vans.
Unlike a lot of people I am a model citizen in built up areas, but I haven't come across many camera vans there anyway, they tend to hang about on the roads where it is safer to go faster and as such some people (me included) do so.
And yes, it irritates me.
Particularly in view of some of the dangerous/careless driving I witness on a regular basis. But those offences are just a moment in time.....

 

I thought it was "speed kills" not "breaking the speed limit kills"

 

It was 'speeding' actually, which I expect most people would relate directly to speed limits as you are only technically speeding when you exceed them, although I full appreciate as I've said that it is not always appropriate to reach that limit.

Although I originally intended to point the finger at the poor state of many vehicles on the road (negligence) that receives so little publicity compared to speed.
Remember the road safety adverts in the 70's/80's? My favourites were the Austin 1100 with cross plies/radials on it that ended up on its roof, and the Sierra towing a caravan that had dodgy shock absorbers and trashed the caravan after a getting in a speed weave. There was another funny one with a Marina but I can't remember the specifics.

 

They did in Grimsby, but the locals revolted and got the limit increased.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-29278779

I can think of many similar examples, one being the B1228 out of Howden. Have a look on Google maps and tell me why that is a 40mph limit?

 

Talk about MOTs reminded me to check out mine as I figured it was about due. I always regard them as a technicality, as I don't need an MOT to tell me if there's an issue with one of the fleet, so occasionally I discover they have expired when I try and tax the vehicle.
Anyhow, due in 3 weeks so I had it done today. Vehicle in question is my work van with 90K showing.
The abridged result is as follows:

Receptionist: "Your Astravan's done."
Me : "Righto. All sorted then?"
Tester : "Nothing to worry about there. Everything spot on. That makes a change"
Me : " Why's that then? Are most vans worse than the cars?"
Tester : "No, not that, but nearly every vehicle that turns up for MOT has some fault on it. They even turn up sometimes with flat tyres."
Me : " The only thing most people do to them between services is put fuel in, I expect."
Tester : " If they get them serviced. The same cars turn up here at MOT time with no indication anyone has serviced them since the MOT. We only see some cars when they break down or are noisy."


Coincidental, and with no prompting from me, but backs up my assertion somewhat.

 

It is true. There is a fraternity of drivers that just do nothing on their car until it breaks or fails the MOT.

Servicing cars isn't what it used to be either. Most servicing schedules for many cars are now 2 years/15K+ miles. And that'll be a interim "oil service" which is just change oil and top up fluids NOTHING else - although most dealerships will check your tread depths and have a glance at the brake outer pads as tyre and pad sales are a nice earner. So a "full" or "Major" service, where things like brakes and suspension are properly checked can be as long as once every 4years or 30K to 40K miles! Even then the manufacturer's shedule somtimes doesn't mandate to remove the wheels or clean/inspect/adjust drums.

 

And its only getting worse.common sense is becoming less.

 

Vosa are to busy flashing their amber lights at trucks.

 

It's quite scary to think that we all share the roads with these people, one thing that does often worry me is the amount of large vehicles, in particular it seems to be BMW X5's that have bald tyres or almost no tread at all, they seem to be one car that people buy but can't afford to change the tyres, or just don't look at them due to some sort of attitude problem.

Honestly look at a few, especially the slightly older ones when your next in the supermarket car park, it's uncanny.

 

trolling a bit here, but idiots at the gov.uk. should really correct this statement of "speed kills". It doesn't . Sudden deceleration is the one that kills you. you can go 500mph and be alive. yet try stopping in 0.1 seconds from 30 mph and you probably are dead

 

I can confirm inappropriate speed nearly kills.



The result of following a dawdling car at less than 2/3 the speed limit and being caught in the wrong place at the wrong time.

If I had managed to overtake her when I wanted to, I would have been long gone. Unfortunately, oncoming traffic prevented me from doing so.

If I had been going even slower, the large plywood plank, which fell off the back of an oncoming lorry, would have dropped lower and gone right through the screen.

 

I think you find that in your case its a unsecured load that kills (or nearly did).

Hope nobody was injured too badly.

 

ok , so more speed would have decreased the severity of an oncoming traffic/anything


im not convinced

 

No injuries, just showered with glass.

The annoying thing was, being a hit and run, I had it on video but the lorry's number plate was washed out with my headlight reflection and whilst I saw an identical lorry the following morning on a different part of my route and effectively with similar timing regarding the location, the police, after several months, finally advised that whilst he had been in the area, his GPS indicated he was not on that road at that time. Still not convinced!!

My point is that travelling too slowly can also result in having an incident. Who knows how many serious incidents I've avoided in the past by pushing on with my driving and passing the location of a future crash.

Incidents are not solely the domain of driving too fast.

Also, by driving faster, you are at risk of someone else doing something stupid for a shorter time.

 

I once had a lorry wheelnut come right THROUGH the windscreen.
I was overtaking a very slow lorry while towing a caravan on the A1 at the time.

Luckily I had sunglasses on, since the powdered glass that came through razzed my face, but not my eyes.

The nut hit me on the shoulder, bounced up and hit the roof, before hitting one of the lads in the back in his face.

Bruising all round.

But at 60mph, it could have been so much worse.

 

Agreed, that if you were doing 60, it could have been so much worse but if you were doing 60 it would have missed you - That's my point really as there is an element of luck, or bad luck, involved.


Assume this was in the days of toughened windscreens as I guess the relative speed was actually not that great.

 

Had half a house brick get thrown up by a truck...all I saw was this large object flying over the top of the car infront of me, as it came closer it had me thinking wut the fuh is that...oh shiiii.....Yeah I ducked. It hit the windscreen right inline to where my head is, cracked both the inner and outer panes of the laminate. Brick carried on over the top of the van and no doubt caused futher mayhem behind me.

If I had been where that car infront was, it'd have flown over the top of the van....s**t happens