Paris Shooting
08 January 2015, 09:09 PM
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Sorry, but your complete lack of rational and critical thought, your trawling of extremist websites spouting conspiratorial nonsense
Your capability to jump to the most outlandish conclusions given zero knowledge
Your ability to be led, blind like a donkey - by fellow conspiratorial nutters
Your blind irrational distrust of anyone in authority, your blind irrational distrust of the democratic process and organisations
Yes you are part of the problem
Your capability to jump to the most outlandish conclusions given zero knowledge
Your ability to be led, blind like a donkey - by fellow conspiratorial nutters
Your blind irrational distrust of anyone in authority, your blind irrational distrust of the democratic process and organisations
Yes you are part of the problem
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08 January 2015, 09:24 PM
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08 January 2015, 09:27 PM
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Sorry, but your complete lack of rational and critical thought, your trawling of extremist websites spouting conspiratorial nonsense
Your capability to jump to the most outlandish conclusions given zero knowledge
Your ability to be led, blind like a donkey - by fellow conspiratorial nutters
Your blind irrational distrust of anyone in authority, your blind irrational distrust of the democratic process and organisations
Yes you are part of the problem
Your capability to jump to the most outlandish conclusions given zero knowledge
Your ability to be led, blind like a donkey - by fellow conspiratorial nutters
Your blind irrational distrust of anyone in authority, your blind irrational distrust of the democratic process and organisations
Yes you are part of the problem
Your capability to believe the most outlandish conclusion because John Snow says it so.
It's the brainwashed consumer like yourself that is the problem,
It makes it so easy for them,over and over again.
Its your incapability to look past what the BBC tells you,
Oh it must be true.
It's your ability to be led, blind like a sheep by Natasha Kaplinski.
Your complete irrational trust of anyone in authority.
Bahhhhh.
The problem my friend is yours!
08 January 2015, 09:33 PM
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On the contrary. Your capability to believe the most outlandish conclusion because John Snow says it so. It's the brainwashed consumer like yourself that is the problem, It makes it so easy for them,over and over again. Its your incapability to look past what the BBC tells you, Oh it must be true. It's your ability to be led, blind like a sheep by Natasha Kaplinski. Your complete irrational trust of anyone in authority. Bahhhhh. The problem my friend is yours!
Or so they'd have you believe!
08 January 2015, 09:37 PM
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08 January 2015, 09:38 PM
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An easy mistake considering I try not to watch the news.
Although I did find a video of a sky news reporter at the scene of the ak shooting to the head in which he points to the bloodstained pavement saying "the blood that was put here" then suddenly changes his words.
Although I did find a video of a sky news reporter at the scene of the ak shooting to the head in which he points to the bloodstained pavement saying "the blood that was put here" then suddenly changes his words.
08 January 2015, 09:40 PM
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Draw upon your own personal experiences, like I asked you to do when you said you hated the EDL and you conveniently forgot to reply.
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08 January 2015, 10:07 PM
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08 January 2015, 10:15 PM
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Do you think they are allowed out after dark?
08 January 2015, 10:19 PM
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I tell you what.. log onto Pistonheads and search for Muslims. Now replace the word Muslim for black? Still acceptable.
I had a friend. He was like a brother to me. In fact he was more than a brother. I would have done anything for him. The guy even taught me to BBQ, we were close. He was a Hindu bloke. Then he moves away gets brainwashed by BF then starts giving me **** about Muslims and how it is my responsibility to x, y and z. I now don't talk to him because he is apparently a fully fledged member of BF now. Traitor or what.
Facebook hate groups? I mean seriously, to claim otherwise is absurd.
08 January 2015, 10:25 PM
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Okay then here goes. Now bare in mind i'm a bloke, big and fat so bigots don't normally try it on. My sister has been verbally abused by idiots, my niece has been abused, my wife has been abused. Of course this never happens when the men are around. It's always when they are driving, or at a bus stop, etc. I work with professionals. The comments they come out with towards muslims and the utter tripe they come out with is a fair indication to say that 'well... you Muslims are hated'.
I tell you what.. log onto Pistonheads and search for Muslims. Now replace the word Muslim for black? Still acceptable.
I had a friend. He was like a brother to me. In fact he was more than a brother. I would have done anything for him. The guy even taught me to BBQ, we were close. He was a Hindu bloke. Then he moves away gets brainwashed by BF then starts giving me **** about Muslims and how it is my responsibility to x, y and z. I now don't talk to him because he is apparently a fully fledged member of BF now. Traitor or what.
Facebook hate groups? I mean seriously, to claim otherwise is absurd.
I tell you what.. log onto Pistonheads and search for Muslims. Now replace the word Muslim for black? Still acceptable.
I had a friend. He was like a brother to me. In fact he was more than a brother. I would have done anything for him. The guy even taught me to BBQ, we were close. He was a Hindu bloke. Then he moves away gets brainwashed by BF then starts giving me **** about Muslims and how it is my responsibility to x, y and z. I now don't talk to him because he is apparently a fully fledged member of BF now. Traitor or what.
Facebook hate groups? I mean seriously, to claim otherwise is absurd.
Shaid, what is BF?
08 January 2015, 10:34 PM
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I don't hate Muslims.
I hate Muslims that kill people.
Like I hate Christians that kill people.
Anyone else here feel the same?
Or are Muslims hated, full stop?
I hate Muslims that kill people.
Like I hate Christians that kill people.
Anyone else here feel the same?
Or are Muslims hated, full stop?
08 January 2015, 10:46 PM
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As I said before, the word hate is very strong.
To me, you'd have to hate someone if you took an AK47 to where they worked and killed them.
Although obviously distressing your experiences have been I don't think you've experienced hate in comparison.
I very much doubt you'd find the words 'we hate Muslims' on any Britains first propaganda either.
To me, you'd have to hate someone if you took an AK47 to where they worked and killed them.
Although obviously distressing your experiences have been I don't think you've experienced hate in comparison.
I very much doubt you'd find the words 'we hate Muslims' on any Britains first propaganda either.
08 January 2015, 10:48 PM
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Okay then here goes. Now bare in mind i'm a bloke, big and fat so bigots don't normally try it on. My sister has been verbally abused by idiots, my niece has been abused, my wife has been abused. Of course this never happens when the men are around. It's always when they are driving, or at a bus stop, etc. I work with professionals. The comments they come out with towards muslims and the utter tripe they come out with is a fair indication to say that 'well... you Muslims are hated'.
I tell you what.. log onto Pistonheads and search for Muslims. Now replace the word Muslim for black? Still acceptable.
I had a friend. He was like a brother to me. In fact he was more than a brother. I would have done anything for him. The guy even taught me to BBQ, we were close. He was a Hindu bloke. Then he moves away gets brainwashed by BF then starts giving me **** about Muslims and how it is my responsibility to x, y and z. I now don't talk to him because he is apparently a fully fledged member of BF now. Traitor or what.
Facebook hate groups? I mean seriously, to claim otherwise is absurd.
I tell you what.. log onto Pistonheads and search for Muslims. Now replace the word Muslim for black? Still acceptable.
I had a friend. He was like a brother to me. In fact he was more than a brother. I would have done anything for him. The guy even taught me to BBQ, we were close. He was a Hindu bloke. Then he moves away gets brainwashed by BF then starts giving me **** about Muslims and how it is my responsibility to x, y and z. I now don't talk to him because he is apparently a fully fledged member of BF now. Traitor or what.
Facebook hate groups? I mean seriously, to claim otherwise is absurd.
08 January 2015, 10:50 PM
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He has also got a sky reporter saying something, "the blood that was put there"
He obviously meant by a lunatic with an AK47, (presumably it was a pretty stressful morning work for the journalist) but not to stipete - no that is cold hard proof of a conspiracy
He obviously meant by a lunatic with an AK47, (presumably it was a pretty stressful morning work for the journalist) but not to stipete - no that is cold hard proof of a conspiracy
08 January 2015, 10:55 PM
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As I said before, the word hate is very strong.
To me, you'd have to hate someone if you took an AK47 to where they worked and killed them.
Although obviously distressing your experiences have been I don't think you've experienced hate in comparison.
I very much doubt you'd find the words 'we hate Muslims' on any Britains first propaganda either.
To me, you'd have to hate someone if you took an AK47 to where they worked and killed them.
Although obviously distressing your experiences have been I don't think you've experienced hate in comparison.
I very much doubt you'd find the words 'we hate Muslims' on any Britains first propaganda either.
08 January 2015, 11:27 PM
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Ok. What I will say though is although verbal abuse is obviously a horrible thing for anyone to tolerate, my personal experiences with SOME Muslims, and some of the things I have seen happen to my friends and family over the years are far worse than verbal.
I do not hate anyone. I'd hazard a guess that most EDL or BF supporters haven't had quite the negative experiences I have had.
There are good eggs and bad eggs. My only gripe would be that situations like this in Paris everyone should condemn these actions. I see very little condemnation from the 3 mosques in my home town, or around the world. And on threads like this there should be no ifs, buts or maybes, it should be a thread where we all agree.
You and I should not be agreeing to disagree, as (I assume) we are both British regardless of religion and upbringing and we should share the same moral beliefs.
I do not hate anyone. I'd hazard a guess that most EDL or BF supporters haven't had quite the negative experiences I have had.
There are good eggs and bad eggs. My only gripe would be that situations like this in Paris everyone should condemn these actions. I see very little condemnation from the 3 mosques in my home town, or around the world. And on threads like this there should be no ifs, buts or maybes, it should be a thread where we all agree.
You and I should not be agreeing to disagree, as (I assume) we are both British regardless of religion and upbringing and we should share the same moral beliefs.
08 January 2015, 11:47 PM
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This whole 'Muslims should condemn these acts' mantra gets right on my t1ts.
Surely it's a given that any decent human being be they Muslim or otherwise finds this sort of thing abhorrent and just because the perpetrators are acting in the name of Islam should not act as a requirement for all Muslims to have to publicly condemn them to be seen as viewing these atrocities as wrongdoings as opposed to being seen to be silently supporting their cause.
I don't seem to remember any similar requirement for all Catholics to condemn the IRA in the 70s and 80s.
Surely it's a given that any decent human being be they Muslim or otherwise finds this sort of thing abhorrent and just because the perpetrators are acting in the name of Islam should not act as a requirement for all Muslims to have to publicly condemn them to be seen as viewing these atrocities as wrongdoings as opposed to being seen to be silently supporting their cause.
I don't seem to remember any similar requirement for all Catholics to condemn the IRA in the 70s and 80s.
09 January 2015, 01:50 AM
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This whole 'Muslims should condemn these acts' mantra gets right on my t1ts.
Surely it's a given that any decent human being be they Muslim or otherwise finds this sort of thing abhorrent and just because the perpetrators are acting in the name of Islam should not act as a requirement for all Muslims to have to publicly condemn them to be seen as viewing these atrocities as wrongdoings as opposed to being seen to be silently supporting their cause.
I don't seem to remember any similar requirement for all Catholics to condemn the IRA in the 70s and 80s.
Surely it's a given that any decent human being be they Muslim or otherwise finds this sort of thing abhorrent and just because the perpetrators are acting in the name of Islam should not act as a requirement for all Muslims to have to publicly condemn them to be seen as viewing these atrocities as wrongdoings as opposed to being seen to be silently supporting their cause.
I don't seem to remember any similar requirement for all Catholics to condemn the IRA in the 70s and 80s.
This also applied to kickboxing.
I would also expect a true subaru enthusiast to consider the marques reputation when putting some stupidly loud exhaust on. And so on and so on.
If a Muslim is to choose not to stand up against these crimes then fine, and i don't think it should be expected of them either, but personally if i were Muslim, i would. (As the man did this evening on Question Time)
To just come to some earlier points, fat people get called names for being fat, people with glasses get called for wearing glasses, etc etc. I think what the majority of Muslims etc that get called names is just part of being in the club, "the human club". (Name calling and bullying is not necessarily hate or racism).
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09 January 2015, 02:10 AM
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Just as an angle on the whole 'false flag' fake shooting thing..
YouTube is now full of videos of the point blank 'head shot' being 'fake' because his head doen't explode etc.
So how about this. The policeman was shot and was rolling around, rolled over, realised the gunman was running towards him so thought no point playing dead as he's seen me. Gunman running, goes to shoot him in the head but misses (policeman was no danger and gunman could have taken rough aim and looked up the street for incoming as he pulled the trigger) If the gunman did miss, the policeman would have experienced some serious shock from the gun shot and may have either just gone down to play dead or the shock/noise at that range might have even knocked him out, who knows. But he then dies from the previous gunshot wounds anyway.
Point is, even if the gunman missed with the head shot, doesn't mean the whole thing was a fake does it.. Just means.. he missed with the head shot!
People all getting in a twist over it, but it's only because it was reported by the media that "the gunman ran towards the policeman who was pleading with him and shot him in the head"
YouTube is now full of videos of the point blank 'head shot' being 'fake' because his head doen't explode etc.
So how about this. The policeman was shot and was rolling around, rolled over, realised the gunman was running towards him so thought no point playing dead as he's seen me. Gunman running, goes to shoot him in the head but misses (policeman was no danger and gunman could have taken rough aim and looked up the street for incoming as he pulled the trigger) If the gunman did miss, the policeman would have experienced some serious shock from the gun shot and may have either just gone down to play dead or the shock/noise at that range might have even knocked him out, who knows. But he then dies from the previous gunshot wounds anyway.
Point is, even if the gunman missed with the head shot, doesn't mean the whole thing was a fake does it.. Just means.. he missed with the head shot!
People all getting in a twist over it, but it's only because it was reported by the media that "the gunman ran towards the policeman who was pleading with him and shot him in the head"
09 January 2015, 07:42 AM
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To just come to some earlier points, fat people get called names for being fat, people with glasses get called for wearing glasses, etc etc. I think what the majority of Muslims etc that get called names is just part of being in the club, "the human club". (Name calling and bullying is not necessarily hate or racism).
Everyone at some point faces abuse from some ******* for a vast array of reasons. Not that it's right.
09 January 2015, 08:33 AM
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09 January 2015, 09:04 AM
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Sky news saying they've got them cornered and a siege is beginning, 2 dead many more injured apparently
http://news.sky.com/
http://news.sky.com/
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