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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 05:37 PM
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Verses like this might help you understand: http://quran.com/47/4
I saw that quite a while back and thought of quoting it in the past but I just thought it would dig up a world of ****.
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Back to basics: It's about angry, misguided men mowing down a load of people for taking the **** out of their made up fairy stories. Which is rather silly.
And that's what religion is, brainwashing through stories that aren't true about people that never existed in a way of controlling people. Written by someone living a very long time ago.
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 05:42 PM
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
And that's what religion is, brainwashing through stories that aren't true about people that never existed in a way of controlling people. Written by someone living a very long time ago.
Would you condone a ban on religion.
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
And that's what religion is, brainwashing through stories that aren't true about people that never existed in a way of controlling people. Written by someone living a very long time ago.
Yet millions fall for it. Total madness.

All this talk of AK47s; that's an incredibly old assault rifle; they used more modern AK74 variant (probably the AK101)
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by zip106
What are the differences between the two?

They both come under the heading 'Bible', don't they?
Fair question. Yes they are both part of the Bible, but the differences can be best summed-up by John 1:17 who says “The law came by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ” and also Romans 6:14 that says "For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under law, but under grace.” So we need to distinguish between the law of the Old Testament and the grace of the New. The former is rooted in flesh and the latter the spirit.

Probably the best two examples I can think of are first, circumcision: in the Old Testament the command was to be physically circumcised whereas in the New Testament Christians are expected to have an unseeable and spiritual and metaphorical circumcision of the heart (Romans 2:29). The second I can think of would be the commandment to only eat 'clean' foods in the Old Testament whereas Christ says in Matthew 15:11 (New Testament) "It's not what goes into your mouth that defiles you; you are defiled by the words that come out of your mouth."

It's the external 'legalism' of the old and the inner 'spirituality' of the new. Sorry if that's a bit wordy and churchy, I'm happy to try and answer any clarifying questions.

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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Yet millions fall for it. Total madness.

All this talk of AK47s; that's an incredibly old assault rifle; they used more modern AK74 variant (probably the AK101)
Careful Mattee you'll get accused of being a delusional self proclaimed know it all on ballistics.
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 05:51 PM
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Religion,do some people really believe that bull**** ...
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Maz
Careful Mattee you'll get accused of being a delusional self proclaimed know it all on ballistics.
My observations require the most basic of knowledge. It's like saying the Brits still all use SLR rifles...
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 05:58 PM
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Theres no god either when your gone,your gone ...........
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
My observations require the most basic of knowledge. It's like saying the Brits still all use SLR rifles...
I thought that was a camera...

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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by zip106
I thought that was a camera...

Self Loading Rifle; our main assault rifle for decades; used a lot in the Falklands and in NI. Replaced by the SA80 which is still used. The number often denotes approximate year of introduction (not the AK101 though!)

Both take rubbish photos.
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Self Loading Rifle; our main assault rifle for decades; used a lot in the Falklands and in NI. Replaced by the SA80 which is still used. The number often denotes approximate year of introduction (not the AK101 though!)

Both take rubbish photos.
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
So why wouldn't you make eye contact with someone who has the cross of ST George outside their home?
Why not?
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaid
Why not?
I won't bother asking the original question. We all know the answer.
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 07:50 PM
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Shooting people because they don't believe your made up religion....
Brainwashed nutters
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
I won't bother asking the original question. We all know the answer.
Which is?
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Carnut
For example, do the majority of Muslims in the uk actually value women less than what is expected in our society?
Why don't you put it to test.

I dare you to go to upto a Muslim (and not some frail old type that fascists usually question but a lad of healthy age) then tell him you think his mum and sister are a pair of slags.

His reaction will answer your question. I'm sure you'll be able to gauge just how valuable we consider our womenfolk
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Maz
Which is?
Maz, by now you'll have worked out that I have very little respect for certain posters. Why bother entertaining them? They have made up their minds about me. No matter what I do it will never be enough for them. **** em.... (well not you but in general).
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaid
Why don't you put it to test. I dare you to go to upto a Muslim (and not some frail old type that fascists usually question but a lad of healthy age) then tell him you think his mum and sister are a pair of slags. His reaction will answer your question. I'm sure you'll be able to gauge just how valuable we consider our womenfolk
Pmsl.
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 08:54 PM
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Maz, by now you'll have worked out that I have very little respect for certain posters. Why bother entertaining them? They have made up their minds about me. No matter what I do it will never be enough for them. **** em.... (well not you but in general).
Sadly Shaid that is about the size of it. I have no idea why you and Maz keep posting here. You are to be admired for your thick skins. Fair play to both of you
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
Pmsl.
Anyway... Slagging each other aside do you really think I am a killer extremists closet terrorist supporter type?
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaid
Maz, by now you'll have worked out that I have very little respect for certain posters. Why bother entertaining them? They have made up their minds about me. No matter what I do it will never be enough for them. **** em.... (well not you but in general).
It was to confirm that he's still got me on ignore.
I assume he doesn't have the ability/inclination to engage with me.
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 08:58 PM
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Sadly Shaid that is about the size of it. I have no idea why you and Maz keep posting here. You are to be admired for your thick skins. Fair play to both of you
I have no idea why either. However the reason I am not an extremist today IS due to the action of white folk who are often ridiculed as the left. Much like yourself

Plus my business partner is white, so are a couple of my cousin and so is my first love (that's another story though).

You can have a million people telling you that you are scum and one little guy will stand by your side and tell the million they are wrong. That little guy matters.
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Sadly Shaid that is about the size of it. I have no idea why you and Maz keep posting here. You are to be admired for your thick skins. Fair play to both of you
Thanks Chris. If I and others didn't post the likes of Kwik will presume we silently condone the actions of the extremists.
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaid
I have no idea why either. However the reason I am not an extremist today IS due to the action of white folk who are often ridiculed as the left. Much like yourself

Plus my business partner is white, so are a couple of my cousin and so is my first love (that's another story though).

You can have a million people telling you that you are scum and one little guy will stand by your side and tell the million they are wrong. That little guy matters.


Good post ....
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaid
Anyway... Slagging each other aside do you really think I am a killer extremists closet terrorist supporter type?
Of course not. But then I think you and certain others have this idea that I spend my weekends on EDL marches in my bomber jacket and DM's.
But, looking at someone and the way they dress and assuming they are a certain way is no different to seeing a muslim and assuming he is making bombs in his loft.
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More double standards.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...nelka-quenelle
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 09:06 PM
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Plus my business partner is white, so are a couple of my cousin and so is my first love (that's another story though).
Are you doing this deliberately?
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 09:25 PM
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Sounding like a broken record but where was the French appetite for free speech here.

http://libcom.org/library/politics-french-rap
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