UK told to pay £1.7bn extra to EU
26 October 2014, 08:12 PM
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Well kind of. In this case the EU has increased everyones GDP figures by including drugs and prostitution. The technical changes have been agreed, you're correct on that. How much that will be due is a bit subjective though. Hence this is why it will be haggled, but Cameron will end up paying because as you correctly state, he signed up to it!
26 October 2014, 09:10 PM
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Well kind of. In this case the EU has increased everyones GDP figures by including drugs and prostitution. The technical changes have been agreed, you're correct on that. How much that will be due is a bit subjective though. Hence this is why it will be haggled, but Cameron will end up paying because as you correctly state, he signed up to it!
26 October 2014, 10:41 PM
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27 October 2014, 04:31 PM
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28 October 2014, 03:52 PM
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It's ironic that the UK's performance has been better than others in the EU in part because we didn't join the single currency so have control over our interest rates.
Sooner we're out of that mess the better. Depressing that we'll likely have to pay that £1.7 billion either way which will end up paying for stuff like French benefits payments and public sector pensions for those 55 year old retirees.
28 October 2014, 09:24 PM
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Good to hear, more votes for UKIP the better.
It's ironic that the UK's performance has been better than others in the EU in part because we didn't join the single currency so have control over our interest rates.
Sooner we're out of that mess the better. Depressing that we'll likely have to pay that £1.7 billion either way which will end up paying for stuff like French benefits payments and public sector pensions for those 55 year old retirees.
It's ironic that the UK's performance has been better than others in the EU in part because we didn't join the single currency so have control over our interest rates.
Sooner we're out of that mess the better. Depressing that we'll likely have to pay that £1.7 billion either way which will end up paying for stuff like French benefits payments and public sector pensions for those 55 year old retirees.
Would you care to comment on the fact that we received payments under the same scheme for the previous two year?
28 October 2014, 10:58 PM
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The payments we have 'received' are not over and above what we've paid in - for example last year we paid over £8000million, yet received back a £400million rebate - net payment is still approx £7600million.
Summary, we pay in signficantly more than we receive and have to put up with an extra layer of government at time when we need less government not more.
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29 October 2014, 12:09 AM
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We pay billions to the EU for them to do some administration then send us back half. Why not pay are farmers direct and enforce the laws that we like, we could copy some laws created by the EU if people think they are so great but why pay billions to middle men and for another layer of politics?
What does the EU do that we can't do ourselves?
What does the EU do that we can't do ourselves?
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29 October 2014, 12:10 AM
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We pay billions to the EU for them to do some administration then send us back half. Why not pay are farmers direct and enforce the laws that we like, we could copy some laws created by the EU if people think they are so great but why pay billions to middle men and for another layer of politics?
What does the EU do that we can't do are selves?
What does the EU do that we can't do are selves?
08 November 2014, 12:17 PM
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Osbourne allegedly claiming HE negotiated the bill to be halved to 850 mil (to be paid in two instalments).
But commentators are saying that the UK would have got a rebate of 850M in due course, anyway!
So is it just political bluster/spin, on the Tories' part...?
But commentators are saying that the UK would have got a rebate of 850M in due course, anyway!
So is it just political bluster/spin, on the Tories' part...?
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08 November 2014, 01:03 PM
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We had a big bill and Osborne got it halved... that is all they will remember! Nice work by the Tories in terms of politics to be fair!
08 November 2014, 11:14 PM
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So does this mean we will no longer get a rebate, will get the rebate at a recalculated amount or i assume by what has been said, no rebate?
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09 November 2014, 10:45 AM
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The spin by Osbourne claiming to have halved the bill to "only" £850 million is staggering - if a company was looking to secure investment and claimed it was in-line to make £40 million in profits, but was actually going to make £30m and include £10m from the following years profits this would be a false and illegal statement - Osbourne is basically lying.
Fortunately there has been quite a lot of coverage surrounding this, so hopefully UKIP will be the winners from this fiasco.
Fortunately there has been quite a lot of coverage surrounding this, so hopefully UKIP will be the winners from this fiasco.
09 November 2014, 06:43 PM
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Tesco's are facing a criminal investigation, whilst the EU accounts have not been signed off for 20 years. So yes, I'd say the EU has it's own rule book.