I predict a free Scotland.

YES is clearly more revolutionary in this particular context of the event than the NO, which sounds stagnant; again, in this particular context. Polling seems absolutely revolutionary there! I don't think Scotland has seen such zeal to poll in any of the elections in the history! Allowing over hundred thousand youngsters to vote also helps, I know. I will be very surprised if it goes other way, and the devastated Alex Salmond will be going for a pint to drown his sorrow.

If NO loses, our Cameron will stay in for a day or two before he goes out again.

 

So is it actually normal to place your vote with a pencil? Can't say I was very impressed by that one TBh..

 

Thats what i was given to use at last two votes down here in south of england - seems very wrong

 

Yes, It seems to be very open to mismanagement and wrong doing and I wouldn't put it past our government to actually try something either.......

 

It's pretty normal actually

 

Yup i reckon in this interweb age with all this technology. There could still be a few politicians who have heard of that age old espionage tool ,,, the rubber !!!

 

So what procedures are in place to prevent wrong doing Martin? Are the ballot boxes under protection till the votes are actually ready to be counted then under constant survellance (sp?) till the count is complete?

 

"Oh, noh noh noh noh, just the dog! Just the dog."

 

Don't ask me, ask the counting officer.

BTW are you seriously suggesting there's someone hidden away with a rubber and pencil altering the ballot papers?

 

 

Its not that hard to imagine is it ,,, theres a reason binding contracts are signed in ink after all

And personally no i think any management of the figures would be done with a slip of the finger on inputting data to the system but when you have a system run by people you distrust totally its hard to overlook the gapingly obvious

 

I'm suggesting the current system could be open to exploitation, and some would actually be dishonest enough to do it.

 

I know Salmond is a slippery bugger but I can't believe he stoop that low

 

Maybe you can't believe Salmond wouldn't , But I believe Cameron would, he's even more slippy.

 

And therein lies the problem. Not reality, but what swirls around inside your cynical mind.

 

That's only your opinion and your entitled to it, But everyone knows what opinions are like.

 

What I see on Sky is that every counting person is making two piles in front. I presume one is for YES and the other one is for NO. But I don't see any one of them making a note of how many YES and how many NO. I mean, what if they forget the number, get mixed up etc.?

I think they should have had two boxes each in front; green for YES and red for NO. Each box should have been big enough to contain maximum 100 votes only. Once full, move it behind you, and get on with your further counting and use new box. This way, they would have counted more accurately and re-count could have been much easier.

Anyway. Let them get on with it.

The YouGov poll speculates that it's 99% certain that the NO has won already. I also hear that all Tories in London office are quite confident for the NO's win. I don't know who and what to believe.

 

Do you remember that, originally?

 

Of course, I do, Joz! I hardly ever forget anything. Coincidentally it was only last night/early morning I was looking at the old photos and came across some pictures of that Chinese artist's workshop who wanted to leave the 'hot' and eat the 'dog' lol. Memories!

 

I just heard that the first one Clackmannanshire resulted with 54% NO.

 

3 councils' results in, so far...

NO winning by almost 60:40.

(I always thought NO might win by that exact ratio).

However, a long way to go yet, with the 'big boys' still to come, e.g. Glasgow, Edinburgh, etc., etc.

And don't forget, it's not the result of the 32 constituencies, but the actual amount of individual votes that it goes on. So 50% +1 of the vote is the minimum needed for that all-important overall majority.

 

Makes me crack.

 

Update:

4 councils votes in.

NO 58%; YES 42% (to the nearest whole %).

 

Sack it, I'm gonna push on through till time for work! My mincers are gonna feel like red hot needles have been pushed into them. And I'll be shattered.

But what the hell... This is a once in a lifetime historic event.

Kettle's on...

 

5/32...

Inverclyde: NO 50.08; YES 49.92 !!
Fewer than 100 votes in it!


Overall vote so far: 55/45 for NO.

 

I'm up all night watching this.

 

6/32...

Dundee: 57/43 YES

OVERALL: 51/49 NO

This is gonna go down to the wire! The large councils - due to the huge number of voters involved (like this Dundee vote) - are gonna be the deciding factors. Unsurprisingly.

 

7 done now, that is close. 49.1% yes

 

8/32...

Dunbarton: YES. A margin of 5K votes!

OVERALL: 50.2/49.8 NO

Christ!

 

9/32...

Midlothian: NO. By over 7k votes.

OVERALL: 51/49 NO