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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 10:19 PM
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How many do you think they'll have to sell to cover R&D? They went to great lengths to create the perfect Gold for use in a watch case, that's not cheap.
Based on the pricing, not as many as you think and I'm sure they'll sell by the bucket load, besides, Apple are hardly short on cash to cover the cost of "R&D".

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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 10:32 PM
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Based on the pricing, not as many as you think and I'm sure they'll sell by the bucket load, besides, Apple are hardly short on cash to cover the cost of "R&D".
I think we're getting somewhere, you're implying Apple do R&D, not just slap some **** together, well done Jon.
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by jonc
Based on the pricing, not as many as you think and I'm sure they'll sell by the bucket load, besides, Apple are hardly short on cash to cover the cost of "R&D".
R&D will be significant - same for any similar product.

And come on Jon, you should know that the R&D costs for a particular product affect its profitability and hence viability, irrespective fo whether Apple has the reserves to cover them or not.
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
I doubt they set out to produce not so perfect gold for their watch.
What they clearly set out to produce was be a hard wearing case material comprising 75% gold which either by design (likely) or default (unlikely) has, what, half the gold content by volume and therefore has significantlty less material costs.

Very clever indeed but its not an 18ct gold watch as we know it.
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 10:46 AM
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Reckon I'm going for tomtom multisport , a real fitness machine.


No daft interruptions. Waterproof. And 80 quid

No bling 50 cent gold though, but it does tell the time

( I won't be out there posing with it)

If I need communications, I'll reach for my phone when I get home
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Devildog
R&D will be significant - same for any similar product.

And come on Jon, you should know that the R&D costs for a particular product affect its profitability and hence viability, irrespective fo whether Apple has the reserves to cover them or not.
Sure it is, that is in no doubt, however, the majority of the R&D will have been bought in since I doubt Apple are expert metallurgist. Of course R&D affects the bottom line, that's why Apple have conveniently designed a process that allows them to call Apple Gold 18ct despite using less gold than regular 18ct gold alloys. Like I said, I'm sure Watch will sell by the millions and the R&D will be more than covered. I admire their ability to post massive annual profits year in year out whatever products they bring out, that in itself is pure commercial gold.
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 11:35 AM
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Apple should patent "pull the wool over your eyes "
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
Sure it is, that is in no doubt, however, the majority of the R&D will have been bought in since I doubt Apple are expert metallurgist.
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/brian-gable/a/70a/984

Just part of the team. You should try Google Jon, it might help keep your foot out of your mouth.
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/brian-gable/a/70a/984

Just part of the team. You should try Google Jon, it might help keep your foot out of your mouth.
Which proves my point. Thanks.
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
Which proves my point. Thanks.
Apple hiring a world leading Metallurgist and Ceramicist in 2012 proves that they don't have any Metallurgists and Ceramicists working at Apple.

My god man, I know it's Friday but it's a bit early to be hitting the sauce.
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Apple hiring a world leading Metallurgist and Ceramicist in 2012 proves that they don't have any Metallurgists and Ceramicists working at Apple.

My god man, I know it's Friday but it's a bit early to be hitting the sauce.
And where exactly did I say Apple did not have any metallurgists? Apple started the Apple Watch project towards the end of 2011, your link shows he was brought in very soon afterwards.
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
And where exactly did I say Apple did not have any metallurgists? Apple started the Apple Watch project towards the end of 2011, your link shows he was brought in very soon afterwards.
Right here "R&D will have been bought in since I doubt Apple are expert metallurgist"

Maybe it's Pot not Booze, that's one short memory.
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Right here "R&D will have been bought in since I doubt Apple are expert metallurgist"

Maybe it's Pot not Booze, that's one short memory.
Ok, before Watch, no metallurgist expert, Watch project starts, metallurgist brought in, is that so difficult to grasp? Nevermind!
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
Ok, before Watch, no metallurgist expert, Watch project starts, metallurgist brought in, is that so difficult to grasp? Nevermind!
So you were stating the obvious? I'm sure they just expanded the team anyhow, you may not have noticed but Apple use a lot of metal.
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 05:12 PM
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Here's a great article that really shows the detail and craftsmanship of the Watch.

http://atomicdelights.com/blog/a-gli...-watch-is-made
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 05:24 PM
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Why is it the watch with a large W
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 05:34 PM
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Oh no, don't tell me....
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 05:37 PM
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Watch aficionados won't buy it though.Just not appealing as a watch.

Its more of a gadget with a watch as one of the functions
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 05:42 PM
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Watch aficionados won't buy it though.Just not appealing as a watch.

Its more of a gadget with a watch as one of the functions
That's the smart in smartwatch.
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 05:45 PM
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Lol.Not saying its not clever.Just isn't what watches are about.

Its like the 80's with calculator watches (not that I wouldn't have killed to have one then!)
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 06:01 PM
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Two wrists. Rolex on the left, Watch on the right, Ferrari keys in the fishbowl.
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Two wrists. Rolex on the left, Watch on the right, Ferrari keys in the fishbowl.
Hah!
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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 12:32 PM
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I know some were concerned about water resistance.

"*Apple Watch is splash and water resistant but not waterproof. You can, for example, wear and use Apple Watch during exercise, in the rain, and while washing your hands, but submerging Apple Watch is not recommended. Apple Watch has a water resistance rating of IPX7 under IEC standard 60529. The leather bands are not water resistant."

IPX7 the X is for unknown dust ingress and Wikipedia stats the 7 as "7":Ingress of water in harmful quantity shall not be possible when the enclosure is immersed in water under defined conditions of pressure and time (up to 1 m of submersion)."

http://www.apple.com/watch/health-and-fitness/

Going for a run in the rain will not be a problem.
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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 12:42 PM
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Thank God ;-)
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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 12:44 PM
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So funny some of these posts Jack.

Really is an ace gadget but completely rubbish watch.lol
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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Two wrists. Rolex on the left, Watch on the right, Ferrari keys in the fishbowl.
lol, absolutely

and a Vodka Martini so ice cold and dry it takes the top layer of you tongue off
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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 02:25 PM
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Who's afraid of the Apple Watch

Quite a long read, but so true.
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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 02:50 PM
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I'm not reading all that



And anyway its written by a faithful
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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 02:59 PM
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Have a nap, it'll help with all those big words.
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Old Mar 17, 2015 | 01:29 PM
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It was only last night I downloaded the new iOS on my i-gadgets, and the Apple watch icon has now come up on the desktop; luring me to buy it and then synching it to all other i-things. I did visit the Apple Watch website and I have to say that all the Apple watches look smart! The best ones are as expensive as over 13,000 pounds!

I think I'll have to get a 500 quido one; just to feel like James Bond.

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