JackClark

Ah yes, Android doesn't support four finger typing, Apple patented it.

neil-h

So it's the same as the Xperia Z2? Relying on waterproof sockets and/or covers to achieve an IP rating which equates to basically water tight for the average user.

The way he was going on about I thought someone had come out with a bit of a 'game changer', not a method of water/dust proofing which has been on the market for years. Now if they'd used a hydrophobic coating on the boards then I'd have been impressed.

Galifrey

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How the f*** can you patent 4 finger typing?

And how the f*** do you hold a phone and use 4 fingers to type?

Galifrey

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And the Note, Note 2, Note 3 and Note 4 plus many tablets.

That is an awesome keyboard. What is so great about the iphone 6's?

Serious question, as the pics don't tell me anything

Beef

Xperia Z3

Or you have the Lenovo waterproof phones - here's a picture of my mate's in a glass on a drunken night out:



You have quite a variety of ruggedised phones out there for more demanding uses.

bioforger

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Correct Unless he meant the Z3 which is IP68, but as you said that isn't fully waterproof either really, it means it can be kept under 1.5m of fresh water for up to 30 minutes. So similar to the S5, which is 1m.

I've heard of IP67 phones failing in hard rain so its all a bit meh.

stevebt

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I know the gadget show tested the S5 under water and it worked fine but I have noticed if the screen gets even a little bit damp its unuseable.

JackClark

Reel him in.

jonc

And now you can have the iPhone 6 with curved screens like some of the Android phones....well not quite

http://www.macrumors.com/2014/09/23/...nding-pockets/

JackClark

Because that would never happen to any other similar product/thing. Those sites must love people like you, good headline - Profit.

neil-h

Where as Android phones just crack

Having just checked, I've got 8 seperate cracks round the edge of my HTC. Great eh.

jonc

Well the point is, I don't know why there is this obsession with thinness. Aluminum is one of the most malleable of metals. You make an aluminum backed phone bigger and at the same time thinner, the 6+ being one of the tallest and thinnest, something has got to give. Poor design consideration IMO, the growing number of bent phones is evidence of this.

jonc

Yeah, you're right, bloody Macrumors, nothing but a **** site profiteering like Apple, what would they know about Apple other than sensationalist headline grabbing journalism. TUT! TUT!

JackClark

Oof! Right in the megapixels http://www.cnet.com/news/iphone-6-mo...quality-tests/

Galifrey

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Wow, impressive game changing quality improvements.

Note 4 in 3 weeks, see how it does against that.

Galifrey

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http://www.dailydot.com/technology/i...endgate/?fb=dd

Probably a hoax, but who knows.

bioforger

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^ this, really fair of Jack to keep comparing the new iPhone against 1.5yr old tech isn't it

bioforger

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No its true, the iphone5s suffers from it as well, this is what happens when you use a bendable metal like aluminium

dpb

I reckon I'd swap a few percentage points on the optics side for some showerproofing. !


Think I could get 7 plus skim bounces across water with that bent iphone

Devildog

Some real life observations of the 6

(Obtained free on an upgrade, for the record)

Pros

Originally it felt to big, but the screen size is a definite improvement now I'm used to it.

Its exceptionally well made

Super fast and smooth in operation. Notably better than the 5 & 5S

Phone reception is improved. The 6 gets a stronger more reliable signal than the 5 & 5S. Where I couldn't reliably make a call from my living room I now can on the same network.

Data wise, 3G is as fast on the 6 on three than EE's best 4G on a 5S.

Better wifi connectivity

The screen is excellent.

For me the camera is less important. I've done a fair bit of professional photography and have kit that is woth more than a small family car, so a camera in a phone, no matter how good, is always going to be sub standard and masively compromised by comparison. Having said that, the image quality in the 6 is very good indeed for what it is. Although the flash is as useful as a chocolate teapot (but I've yet to see a phone camera with a flash that actually works outside of close up shots in darkness)

Video quality and functionality is very, very good indeed.


Cons

The fact that the camera lens protrudes from the body - presumably as a result of the phone being so thin. So the risk of damage, being knocked out of alignment, etc, is high. Come on Apple, you can do better than that. It's a poor effort and makes a case mandatory in my opinion.

Is it justifyably better than a 5 or 5S? (having run both at the same time the difference between the 5 and 5s is negligable) - without doubt.

Is it better than the competition? Who knows. Who cares. Each to their own and all that.

It is, however, a big step up for apple from what were already excellent products in the 5 and 5S.

Evolution Stu

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Funny you should say that, I climbed Helvellyn this weekend and, armed with my new iPhone 6 I was keen to try it out back to back against my Canon 5D MK3. The results were MORE than surprising!

Iphone 6

https://www.scoobynet.com/attachment...p;d=1411554918


Canon 5D MK3 and Canon 17-40 F4 L.

https://www.scoobynet.com/attachment...1&d=1411554918


Naturally both are saved to the same resolution (2048) and obviously if you want to crop in or inspect detail with zoom its all over, but for quick web upload memories this thing is incredible and makes me question why I carry 16KG of gear up mountains on 9hr treks!

dpb

How is it a big step up for apple

If, without doubt, the differences are negligible

bioforger

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You seem to be contradicting yourself there.

Markus

Bend(er)gate, yeah, saw some stuff on that yesterday. Really does depend on how much pressure there was to make it bend and where it was placed. For example, skinny jeans would probably not be helpful in this respect to many phones.

I have been using a 6 at work and at first, and I too thought it was quite big, but a few days in, it doesn't feel that big. 5S and 5 feel a little small now, and I guess that was the aim. I've not stress tested the device at all, that's not my bag.
I do need to get to a store and have a look and feel of the Plus, however, I suspect first impressions could be it's very large, but after a few days that may change.

dpb

I got mate who wears these skinny jeans , God knows why , I'll have to ask him what's occurring since he owns an iphone,.

It would be alright, only he's coming on 48, not 14.

JackClark

Not just Apple but all phone cameras are way, way beyond what I thought would ever be possible.

Devildog

Apologies - I meant that the difference between the 5 and 5s is negligable.

Devildog

see above (and edit)

bioforger

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Sure, sure *rubs chin

I think you were right the 1st time, the differences between the 5s and 6 are negligible

JackClark

5s is 2x as good as the 5 in many areas. The camera is a world away from a 5.