The police in St Lois really do like shooting people!
22 August 2014, 12:47 PM
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Is it fear I don't know when I lived there it was respect by me and most of the people I knew black or white had respect for them, of course the odd few thought they we're complete dicks as is the norm world over, the states is difficult though as the right to bare arms is a huge issue,
22 August 2014, 03:59 PM
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Having now seen the video footage the cops completely over reacted in my opinion. That situation could and should have been handled so much better. There was no need for deadly force from what you can see in that video.
America, land of the free, home of the brave.....yeah, right.
America, land of the free, home of the brave.....yeah, right.
22 August 2014, 04:17 PM
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It's no secret the Obama administration want to ban guns, blaming recent high profile shootings. The peoples right and 2nd amendment to own arms for self defence.
With a military police state and no arms to defend themselves and their families the people would have no chance.
Total control.
With a military police state and no arms to defend themselves and their families the people would have no chance.
Total control.
Yove've put 2 and 2 together and come up 49593457049386
22 August 2014, 05:12 PM
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It's all about total control, the militarised police force in America looking like the front line in Afghanistan, terrorising the public they have sworn to protect.
The police are murdering unarmed black Americans, these people have the right to protest,also arms to defend themselves as in time it will get much worse.
It seems every other week the heavy handed police are murdering unarmed civilians.
What I'm saying is when(not if) Obama rips up the 2nd amendment the people will have no chance and will not be able to defend themselves against Obama and the militarised police murderers.
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22 August 2014, 06:16 PM
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Yes but it's all related Martin.
It's all about total control, the militarised police force in America looking like the front line in Afghanistan, terrorising the public they have sworn to protect.
The police are murdering unarmed black Americans, these people have the right to protest,also arms to defend themselves as in time it will get much worse.
It seems every other week the heavy handed police are murdering unarmed civilians.
What I'm saying is when(not if) Obama rips up the 2nd amendment the people will have no chance and will not be able to defend themselves against Obama and the militarised police murderers.
It's all about total control, the militarised police force in America looking like the front line in Afghanistan, terrorising the public they have sworn to protect.
The police are murdering unarmed black Americans, these people have the right to protest,also arms to defend themselves as in time it will get much worse.
It seems every other week the heavy handed police are murdering unarmed civilians.
What I'm saying is when(not if) Obama rips up the 2nd amendment the people will have no chance and will not be able to defend themselves against Obama and the militarised police murderers.
For once please allow the facts and some logic to enter your conspiracy theories.
1. Obama has never once even hinted at scrapping the 2nd amendment. If he’s going to try he needs to get a move on as he only has less than two years left in office to complete his master plan. Oh and by the way there is no chance, zero, nada none whatsoever, that he could ever get this passed.
2. You said that Obama had used the ‘high profile shootings’ as a way of repealing the 2nd amendment – again totally untrue, he actually tried, largely in vain, to get certain types of assault rifles banned, yes the very same types of assault rifles used in the ‘high profile killings’.
3. You are infinitely more likely to be shot at,injured or killed by a criminal than by the police. The Police over the lastdecade have killed 500 people per year in the US (which is admittedly one hell of a lot). Mostly I suspect because they are usually dealing with armed criminals. Overall gun deaths in the US was 14,000 with countless injured
4. Actually you are far more likely to be killed or injured by your OWN WEAPON than you are by the Police. People do not need protection from the police (even though recent events haven’t exactly cast a great light), they need protection from idiots with guns.
I wish Obama did have the ***** and the political will to repealthe lunacy that is the 2nd amendment. To claim that there is somekind of plot by Obama to disarm America and turn it into a police state is (I’llbe kind) idiotic.
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22 August 2014, 06:24 PM
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There is no definition! With out a definition that can be even close to being agreed upon, the concept of god is totally meaningless.
God is a figment of peoples immagination corrupted by a church that desires control,greed and wealth.
God is a fictitious being that is used as a substitute for social interaction by people who have problems and are tbh, not quite at home in the head if you know what I'm saying.
God is for the weak.
God is a figment of peoples immagination corrupted by a church that desires control,greed and wealth.
God is a fictitious being that is used as a substitute for social interaction by people who have problems and are tbh, not quite at home in the head if you know what I'm saying.
God is for the weak.
22 August 2014, 06:40 PM
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For once please allow the facts and some logic to enter your conspiracy theories.
1. Obama has never once even hinted at scrapping the 2nd amendment. If he’s going to try he needs to get a move on as he only has less than two years left in office to complete his master plan. Oh and by the way there is no chance, zero, nada none whatsoever, that he could ever get this passed.
2. You said that Obama had used the ‘high profile shootings’ as a way of repealing the 2nd amendment – again totally untrue, he actually tried, largely in vain, to get certain types of assault rifles banned, yes the very same types of assault rifles used in the ‘high profile killings’.
3. You are infinitely more likely to be shot at,injured or killed by a criminal than by the police. The Police over the lastdecade have killed 500 people per year in the US (which is admittedly one hell of a lot). Mostly I suspect because they are usually dealing with armed criminals. Overall gun deaths in the US was 14,000 with countless injured
4. Actually you are far more likely to be killed or injured by your OWN WEAPON than you are by the Police. People do not need protection from the police (even though recent events haven’t exactly cast a great light), they need protection from idiots with guns.
I wish Obama did have the ***** and the political will to repealthe lunacy that is the 2nd amendment. To claim that there is somekind of plot by Obama to disarm America and turn it into a police state is (I’llbe kind) idiotic.
1. Obama has never once even hinted at scrapping the 2nd amendment. If he’s going to try he needs to get a move on as he only has less than two years left in office to complete his master plan. Oh and by the way there is no chance, zero, nada none whatsoever, that he could ever get this passed.
2. You said that Obama had used the ‘high profile shootings’ as a way of repealing the 2nd amendment – again totally untrue, he actually tried, largely in vain, to get certain types of assault rifles banned, yes the very same types of assault rifles used in the ‘high profile killings’.
3. You are infinitely more likely to be shot at,injured or killed by a criminal than by the police. The Police over the lastdecade have killed 500 people per year in the US (which is admittedly one hell of a lot). Mostly I suspect because they are usually dealing with armed criminals. Overall gun deaths in the US was 14,000 with countless injured
4. Actually you are far more likely to be killed or injured by your OWN WEAPON than you are by the Police. People do not need protection from the police (even though recent events haven’t exactly cast a great light), they need protection from idiots with guns.
I wish Obama did have the ***** and the political will to repealthe lunacy that is the 2nd amendment. To claim that there is somekind of plot by Obama to disarm America and turn it into a police state is (I’llbe kind) idiotic.
Your last paragraph is positively correct and the most sense you have ever made on these forums. Why on earth do you think American police need to be armed to the hilt with military armoury/vehicles, it's certainly not for the local thugs and vandals, something is brewing in the states and the powers that be are getting prepared.
Kind of scary considering it's against the American people.
Ps. Statistically you are 16 times more likely to get killed by a cop than a terrorist.
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22 August 2014, 06:46 PM
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Ok, I can live with that. Ineffable almost.
Agreed.
This appears to be an attempt at a definition.
As does this.
Yet according to your opening sentence you're unable to define God, before you go on to try and define God. Would it be fair of me to say that the God of your third and fourth sentences is "for the weak"? I say this because it would seem absurd to say that something you're unable to define is "for the weak".
With out a definition that can be even close to being agreed upon, the concept of god is totally meaningless.
God is a figment of peoples immagination corrupted by a church that desires control,greed and wealth
God is a fictitious being that is used as a substitute for social interaction by people who have problems and are tbh, not quite at home in the head if you know what I'm saying.
God is for the weak.
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22 August 2014, 06:47 PM
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I'm sorry Martin but we will agree to disagree.
Your last paragraph is positively correct and the most sense you have ever made on these forums. Why on earth do you think American police need to be armed to the hilt with military armoury/vehicles, it's certainly not for the local thugs and vandals, something is brewing in the states and the powers that be are getting prepared.
Kind of scary considering it's against the American people.
Ps. Statistically you are 16 times more likely to get killed by a cop than a terrorist.
Your last paragraph is positively correct and the most sense you have ever made on these forums. Why on earth do you think American police need to be armed to the hilt with military armoury/vehicles, it's certainly not for the local thugs and vandals, something is brewing in the states and the powers that be are getting prepared.
Kind of scary considering it's against the American people.
Ps. Statistically you are 16 times more likely to get killed by a cop than a terrorist.
22 August 2014, 06:57 PM
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Ok, there is no true definition.
What I wrote above are my attempts to define an entity, it's like trying to define nothing.
People obviously believe in something though hence my explanation of being weak and not right in the head.
The wealth,power and influence of the church on weak people is all based on lies or hearsay not fact!
The same can be said for all religions, the power of lies and myth that cause so much hurt and violence through out the world over for centuries, these so called gods are the cause of so many lost human life.
What I wrote above are my attempts to define an entity, it's like trying to define nothing.
People obviously believe in something though hence my explanation of being weak and not right in the head.
The wealth,power and influence of the church on weak people is all based on lies or hearsay not fact!
The same can be said for all religions, the power of lies and myth that cause so much hurt and violence through out the world over for centuries, these so called gods are the cause of so many lost human life.
22 August 2014, 07:09 PM
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All these millions of innocent civilians slaughtered.
All the family's destroyed by lost loved ones fighting terror.
All the billions upon billions spends fighting terror.
Seems ironic that statistically we/us are 16 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than a terrorist.
Who's protecting us from the police?
22 August 2014, 07:11 PM
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[QUOTE]No we bloody well won't. That would indicate there's some balance of probabilities that could potentially validate your argument.
Obama is not going to repeal the 2nd amendment, end of. You are wrong.
btw - are you suggesting that the answer to the recent Police shootings is MORE GUNS?
Obama is not going to repeal the 2nd amendment, end of. You are wrong.
btw - are you suggesting that the answer to the recent Police shootings is MORE GUNS?
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22 August 2014, 07:12 PM
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All these millions of lost lives fighting the war on terror.
All these millions of innocent civilians slaughtered.
All the family's destroyed by lost loved ones fighting terror.
All the billions upon billions spends fighting terror.
Seems ironic that statistically we/us are 16 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than a terrorist.
Who's protecting us from the police?
All these millions of innocent civilians slaughtered.
All the family's destroyed by lost loved ones fighting terror.
All the billions upon billions spends fighting terror.
Seems ironic that statistically we/us are 16 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than a terrorist.
Who's protecting us from the police?
A truly feckin stupid statistic to use
22 August 2014, 07:14 PM
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22 August 2014, 07:30 PM
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Police fired 8 times at Lee Rigby's killers IIRC.........all at the centre of body mass. By rights they should have killed them but for some reason they survived !!
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22 August 2014, 07:35 PM
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Not that simple humans like you and I are capable of expressing within the confines of language I agree.
Or everything, depending upon whether one is a theist or an atheist.
You believe in conspiracy theories, Pete.
Possibly. Corruption was one reason for the Reformation.
All? What about the Jains and Buddhists and, dare I say it, Welsh Baptists?
Matthew 7:15
What I wrote above are my attempts to define an entity, it's like trying to define nothing.
People obviously believe in something though hence my explanation of being weak and not right in the head.
The wealth,power and influence of the church on weak people is all based on lies or hearsay not fact!
The same can be said for all religions,
the power of lies and myth that cause so much hurt and violence through out the world over for centuries, these so called gods are the cause of so many lost human life.
22 August 2014, 07:37 PM
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[QUOTE=Martin2005;11496806]
No we bloody well won't. That would indicate there's some balance of probabilities that could potentially validate your argument.
Obama is not going to repeal the 2nd amendment, end of. You are wrong.
btw - are you suggesting that the answer to the recent Police shootings is MORE GUNS?
My argument is more valid than you would like to believe Martin.
America is getting ready for a home turf war.
The DHS has reportedly bought enough ammunition for a 20year war, 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition, some of this purchase order is for hollow-point rounds, forbidden by international law for use in war, this year another 75 million rounds.
At the height of the Iraq war 6 million rounds were used on average monthly, at that rate it would take 20 years to fire all rounds.
Not to mention DHS now is showing off its acquisition of heavily armored personnel carriers.
Why??
Obama can not personally repeal the 2nd amendment but he can personally squeeze the living hell out of it.
As ludicrous as it may sound, I wouldn't be surprised if there won't be an attempt to repeal the second amendment by executive order. Not directly anyway, but in a roundabout way, maybe by a declaration of martial law or some other "national emergency measure".
No we bloody well won't. That would indicate there's some balance of probabilities that could potentially validate your argument.
Obama is not going to repeal the 2nd amendment, end of. You are wrong.
btw - are you suggesting that the answer to the recent Police shootings is MORE GUNS?
America is getting ready for a home turf war.
The DHS has reportedly bought enough ammunition for a 20year war, 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition, some of this purchase order is for hollow-point rounds, forbidden by international law for use in war, this year another 75 million rounds.
At the height of the Iraq war 6 million rounds were used on average monthly, at that rate it would take 20 years to fire all rounds.
Not to mention DHS now is showing off its acquisition of heavily armored personnel carriers.
Why??
Obama can not personally repeal the 2nd amendment but he can personally squeeze the living hell out of it.
As ludicrous as it may sound, I wouldn't be surprised if there won't be an attempt to repeal the second amendment by executive order. Not directly anyway, but in a roundabout way, maybe by a declaration of martial law or some other "national emergency measure".
22 August 2014, 07:51 PM
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Not that simple humans like you and I are capable of expressing within the confines of language I agree.
Or everything, depending upon whether one is a theist or an atheist.
You believe in conspiracy theories, Pete.
Possibly. Corruption was one reason for the Reformation.
All? What about the Jains and Buddhists and, dare I say it, Welsh Baptists?
Matthew 7:15
Or everything, depending upon whether one is a theist or an atheist.
You believe in conspiracy theories, Pete.
Possibly. Corruption was one reason for the Reformation.
All? What about the Jains and Buddhists and, dare I say it, Welsh Baptists?
Matthew 7:15
Gods existence is probably the biggest conspiracy theory there is.
22 August 2014, 08:19 PM
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