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Old 21 August 2014, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
I normally agree with your posts, but the fact the black car did not crash has nothing to do with preparation or skill... it was complete luck. Not having a go as there but for the grace of God go all of us, but I don't think it's a video to be lauded or even laughed at.... it could have been very serious if Lady Luck hadn't been smiling on all involved.
Absolutely.
All concerned did well to avoid damage, but luck played a big part in their success.
You know the saying though, I'd rather be lucky than good!
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
Absolutely.
All concerned did well to avoid damage, but luck played a big part in their success.
You know the saying though, I'd rather be lucky than good!
the black and red car in the video are not who I mentioned.
Old 21 August 2014, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
but the black car is not anyone I mentioned.
I mentioned Dave and Gaz,neither had an incident or breakage,I'd say down to preparation and sensible driving.
Fair enough, apologies for the misinterpretation
Old 21 August 2014, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave-W-
Going out blind ? I bought a xbox one and forza to try and get some help before I went so who is the assuming **** now

As for my comments get a grip you ***** and go back and see your first post on this thread it shows what a arrogant pleb you are could you not of got your point over in a different way ? No because your a tool
I think you'd do well to go for an eye test, you obviously have some sort of problem with them, first you accept the worlds worst paint job, then the dodgy lines round the ring and now your struggling to read what it is i'm actually writing.

And you say i'm making assumptions.

Why so defensive about your driving and abusive towards someone offering good advice, you really should look at a bit of anger management after you get your eyes seen to that is.
Old 21 August 2014, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Fair enough, apologies for the misinterpretation
I agree on the cars in the vid were very lucky I think he even admitted earlier on in the thread they were following too close.
a large amount of skill and the same in luck avoided a nasty accident.
Old 21 August 2014, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
I agree on the cars in the vid were very lucky I think he even admitted earlier on in the thread they were following too close.
a large amount of skill and the same in luck avoided a nasty accident.
Agreed.

At the end of the day no one got hurt and no one's car got damaged so alls well that ends well.
Old 21 August 2014, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
If that was my lap i'd be ashamed to post it, I stopped watching after 4 mins as i'd seen enough.

Dude get some tuition, your lines are abysmal.

Edit to add; Amongst other things.

oh ditchy please teach me how to drive because you must be awesome

(is this the response you wanted ?)

speak to me like a **** and you will get the same or worse back
what part of me wanting to go to the ring and get back without incident and enjoy the experience did you not understand ?
Old 21 August 2014, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave-W-
oh ditchy please teach me how to drive because you must be awesome (is this the response you wanted ?) speak to me like a **** and you will get the same or worse back what part of me wanting to go to the ring and get back without incident and enjoy the experience did you not understand ?
Don't feed the troll Dave.
Old 21 August 2014, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
Don't feed the troll Dave.

I will feed him a c@ck meat sandwich
Old 21 August 2014, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
the black and red car in the video are not who I mentioned.
My post contained no reference to anything you posted TT. It was in agreement with F1's general remark that all were lucky "it could have been very serious if Lady Luck hadn't been smiling on all involved."
As I said "All concerned did well to avoid damage, but luck played a big part in their success"
Old 21 August 2014, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
My post contained no reference to anything you posted TT. It was in agreement with F1's general remark that all were lucky "it could have been very serious if Lady Luck hadn't been smiling on all involved."
As I said "All concerned did well to avoid damage, but luck played a big part in their success"
yup I agree bloody lucky and could have been a nasty accident.
scary stuff and a reason to have track insurance.
Old 21 August 2014, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
scary stuff and a reason to have track insurance.


I got covered by moley for £60 per day
Old 21 August 2014, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave-W-
oh ditchy please teach me how to drive because you must be awesome

(is this the response you wanted ?)

speak to me like a **** and you will get the same or worse back
what part of me wanting to go to the ring and get back without incident and enjoy the experience did you not understand ?
Hi dave are we friends again now.

Actually I went back and watched the whole 9mins odd of your vid as I thought I was maybe being a little harsh in my comments, but nope I got it right the first time round.

I was quite amused by the bike that went round you with some very nice lines and then disappeared off into the distance.

Oh and what was the bimmer a 1.6L you should have looked at the lines he was taking and tried to follow them.

I ok enough p!ss taking.

Ok first lesson, you were trying too hard to go fast around a track that you don't know, which is why I mentioned sighting laps and why your lines were suffering along with your braking and gear changing.

Take it a section at a time, you shouldn't be trying to go quickly around the whole track but to get the first few bends right as a sequence, then slow down again and look at the best lines for the next bit, after that use the rest of the lap to familiarise yourself, you'll notice bits along the way that just work for you and you can already remember from the computer game, it's like playing join the dots, experiment and have some fun in those areas.

It's not just about the corner in front of you, there's the ones after it too, the best line or apexing a particular corner isn't always going to be the best line for the one after it especially when they are close together as you discovered, at one point and ended up braking mid corner during a direction change, do that at speed and you'll be bouncing off the armco backwards.

People think that going fast is what it's about but it's not, smooth clean lines will make you much quicker because you'll flow along not upsetting the balance of the car and end up having to brake or correct, like you were doing, then your off line and slowing down as well as being hard on the tyres and brakes.

You say you were taking it easy and it's a good thing that you did really and as you say made it back in one piece.

Is that a little less cnuty for you, Wong key dave.
Old 21 August 2014, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Hi dave are we friends again now.

Actually I went back and watched the whole 9mins odd of your vid as I thought I was maybe being a little harsh in my comments, but nope I got it right the first time round.

I was quite amused by the bike that went round you with some very nice lines and then disappeared off into the distance.

Oh and what was the bimmer a 1.6L you should have looked at the lines he was taking and tried to follow them.

I ok enough p!ss taking.

Ok first lesson, you were trying too hard to go fast around a track that you don't know, which is why I mentioned sighting laps and why your lines were suffering along with your braking and gear changing.

Take it a section at a time, you shouldn't be trying to go quickly around the whole track but to get the first few bends right as a sequence, then slow down again and look at the best lines for the next bit, after that use the rest of the lap to familiarise yourself, you'll notice bits along the way that just work for you and you can already remember from the computer game, it's like playing join the dots, experiment and have some fun in those areas.

It's not just about the corner in front of you, there's the ones after it too, the best line or apexing a particular corner isn't always going to be the best line for the one after it especially when they are close together as you discovered, at one point and ended up braking mid corner during a direction change, do that at speed and you'll be bouncing off the armco backwards.

People think that going fast is what it's about but it's not, smooth clean lines will make you much quicker because you'll flow along not upsetting the balance of the car and end up having to brake or correct, like you were doing, then your off line and slowing down as well as being hard on the tyres and brakes.

You say you were taking it easy and it's a good thing that you did really and as you say made it back in one piece.

Is that a little less cnuty for you, Wong key dave.


no your still a **** I had 4 days over there 3 days on track first day was wet and second morning was damp I was not there to break any records I am not a driving god I was just having a spirited drive and keeping away from rumble strips ect

you keep going on about learning the course how on earth would I do that in such a short space of time its not a 2min a lap course like other tracks its a 8+mins course or 9+min course for a crap driver like me

also I have heard enough horror stories about people going off and not being able to afford to pay for the damage to the track and having their cars taken off them I didn't want to fall in to that trap

I drove what I could see at the time if that's not good enough for you fine but it was good enough for me and I had a great time
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So many track hero's on here.
All the gear and no idea.
Old 21 August 2014, 12:55 PM
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Do it on an open top bus, it's a tourist attraction after all.
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Originally Posted by Dave-W-
no your still a **** I had 4 days over there 3 days on track first day was wet and second morning was damp I was not there to break any records I am not a driving god I was just having a spirited drive and keeping away from rumble strips ect

you keep going on about learning the course how on earth would I do that in such a short space of time its not a 2min a lap course like other tracks its a 8+mins course or 9+min course for a crap driver like me

also I have heard enough horror stories about people going off and not being able to afford to pay for the damage to the track and having their cars taken off them I didn't want to fall in to that trap

I drove what I could see at the time if that's not good enough for you fine but it was good enough for me and I had a great time
Calm down. It's only the internet.

I can see you getting an ulcer from the way you write!

Old 21 August 2014, 12:57 PM
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ps

all the stuff your spouting about in to quick and set up for the next corner ect ect I know all this ffs you don't have exclusive knowledge

going to a track like oulton park then yes I would drive it differently because I have been before and after a few laps I would know my lines and braking points ect the ring is a completely different track to any other in the world and I showed it the respect it deserved for my first time on it
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
Calm down. It's only the internet.

I can see you getting an ulcer from the way you write!



**** off don't you start lol
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Your a funny one you are.

I'm pleased you had a good time.

Your still having problems with your eyes, I said learn it a section at a time not all at once in one weekend, I bet you can hardly remember any of it properly now, where as if you took my approach you'd know the first 3/4mins of the track by now and be doing reasonable times over that part, then the next time you go you'd just need to refresh your memory on the bit you already know and then slowly add bits to it.

It is actually just like learning four 2 minute tracks.
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Originally Posted by Dave-W-
**** off don't you start lol
You kids get so angry these days.

Stop sniffing crack!

Honestly, hurling insults on the internet is so last decade.
It is all about the subtle humour now and waiting for newbies to make fools of themselves............


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Ah and while I was writing that post you've just confirmed what i'm telling you by mentioning Oulton Park, it's exactly the same principle.
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
You kids get so angry these days.

Stop sniffing crack!

Honestly, hurling insults on the internet is so last decade.
It is all about the subtle humour now and waiting for newbies to make fools of themselves............


Old 21 August 2014, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
So many track hero's on here.
All the gear and no idea.
I'm not so sure he has either
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ditchy why not post pics of a lap you have done if you have ever been on a track that is.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Your a funny one you are.

I'm pleased you had a good time.

Your still having problems with your eyes, I said learn it a section at a time not all at once in one weekend, I bet you can hardly remember any of it properly now, where as if you took my approach you'd know the first 3/4mins of the track by now and be doing reasonable times over that part, then the next time you go you'd just need to refresh your memory on the bit you already know and then slowly add bits to it.

It is actually just like learning four 2 minute tracks.

do you understand how much traffic is going round the ring you cannot possibly learn that much in such a short space of time


if I took your approach to anything I would end it all with a magnum 45 under my chin
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
ditchy why not post pics of a lap you have done if you have ever been on a track that is.

a camera would not be able to keep up with our know it all driving god
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Wouldn't find us Evo owners driving that badly :-D
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Originally Posted by Dave-W-
do you understand how much traffic is going round the ring you cannot possibly learn that much in such a short space of time


if I took your approach to anything I would end it all with a magnum 45 under my chin
I'll see your 45 and raise you a Silver Pigeon.
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If you're not going to kiss and make up, then at least tone it down with the insults.

I know it's probably difficult to believe, but it is possible to have a difference of opinion, without resorting to childish name calling etc.


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