Matteeboy

Hmmm, not sure; they seem to heap praise on Renault Sports but they are a b4stard to own. Alfas often get false praise too despite mostly being cr4p.
Ferraris get nothing but praise but my limited experience of them is that they are more fragile than a Ming vase.

But don't forget that the GTR gets heaped with praise although I'm sure most of it is justified.

I'd have a Macan too I reckon; fast, nice to sit in, useful on our knackered roads. Do they only get a two year warranty though?

billythekid

OTR price includes 3rd year warranty, you can take it off if you want and save about a grand. We did - because we wont have it in 2 years so its pointless for us. As it will probably go back to the dealer as PX for another it wont effect trade in value either as OPC will have to put another 2 years on it anyway.

billythekid

Oh, and the US market - and others get 5 year warranty... for the exact same car... go figure. In fact a car that's been on a ship for 6 weeks vs 2 days.

Matteeboy

Hmmm, a Turbo could be a future purchase. I need to test a 991 first though.

zip106

Can't spec that colour in the UK until September.
The standard colours are pretty poor to be honest.

I specced a turbo to £65k, and it was a very well specced car.
Just can't stomach a 12-18 month wait for a car (at the time).

Any car.

john banks

What makes it worth so much? Does it excel in performance, luxury or practicality, or are you paying for the best compromise of the three? In what ways does it beat a C7 RS6 for similar money?

ditchmyster

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12-18 month wait is way too long, I waited 6 weeks once and thought that was a bit much, pretty much lost interest in the car by the time it arrived.

Devildog

What makes any car worth so much?

It's always going to be subjective John.

Although a well specced Macan Turbo is £12k cheaper than a base RS6, so not exacly similar money. I'd bet its a better drive too.

Devildog

Yep - the more I look at it the more I'm thinking the same.

Ok, so the colour not available till september, but with the waiting list that's not an issue.

What is the issue is that to get it looking like that involves:

21 inch sport classic wheels £3,116.00
Sports design package with side skirts :£2,015
Air suspension with self-levelling function and height adjustment inc (PASM) (lowers the standard ride height) :£1,789
Carbon Sideblades :£801.00
Privacy Glass :£320.00
Side mirror housing in car colour : £315.00
Bi-Xenon main headlights in black including Porsche Dynamic Light System £1,347
Tinted LED taillights with adaptive brake lights £308.00

Which all adds just over £10k to the base price, irrespective of model, which is crazy IMO.

(its probably also got the Sports Exhaust with tailpipes in black which is another £1,600)

When we were there we saw a Macan S which had been specced from £43k base to over £65k!

Devildog

This is what £43k buys you

Matteeboy

Are xenons not standard?!

I'd stick with standard wheels; 21" is a bit silly.

ditchmyster

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Missed this, just shows you how advanced the Rover 200 was in it's day, and why it's a Ferrari beater.

ditchmyster

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I think it should be all or nothing, what's another £10k when your already spending £40k+ If your going to have one it may as well be how you want it or you'll just start to hate it after a while.

Think of your M135i without the red leather.

Matteeboy

That's not an extra though.

Giant wheels are purely cosmetic; they spoil the ride, tramline and tyres are silly money.

I think another 25% is rather a lot to spend on extras.

ditchmyster

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I'll give you the tramlining and ride quality as i've just changed from 18's back to 17's on the blob and it's much better.

For me £40k on a new car is rather a lot you already know my views on new car deprecation, but if that's what floats a persons boat then it's fine by me as it's not my money.

Yes 25% on extras is a lot but it seems to be the way with prestige cars, ever since mercedes started doing it the others have followed suit, obviously a good earner and easy way to increase profits by 20% through fleecing your customers.

Matteeboy

If you're careful, you will see a return on some extras; I chose our options (about £6k or so) partly according to BMWs own GFV values; some "obvious" options actually see no GFV at all (metallic paint, adaptive suspension), while our two "mid range" options, the stereo system and the nav, both hold a much better percentage than the top option.

However it'll still depreciate like a bar steward but at least we got £6.5k off RRP.

The camper is a very slow depreciator but it's fairly well loaded; £7.5k off list helps. But the cost of extras were still a major decision on the £30k BM (list £36k) and the £45k van (list £52.5k).

Dingdongler

I saw the Macan in a showroom a few months back and it is a very nice looking car both inside and out.

If it drives as well as the reviews suggest then it ticks a lot of boxes. I would own one, preferably in Turbo guise, or even Turbo S if they bring one out.

Good luck with the purchase DD.

billythekid

Turbo S and GTS are expected next year. We are probably going to order a Turbo in October to replace our S Diesel but will probably stick a caveat on the order to change to GTS if it comes out.

Matteeboy

A turbo S version would be MAAAAAD; and lots of fun!

I'm still tempted by a 997 Turbo S; 2.9s to 60 - yikes!

Littleted

I like these, as the OP said if you spec it right ( wheels are most important to make these look good ) if should hold its residual. I saw a black Turbo one, looked very nice indeed. Its deffo where my money would go if I needed a Jeep esk car.

Wouldnt touch an evoque ( posh freelander) though, apart from the owner on here ive yet to hear a good thing about them, from actual users. Wifes besty has the top one 14 Plate and its been back so many times shes now rejected it and returning it,
gearbox went
Parking sensors
Boot wonky
rear panels loose once removed, told by LR this is what happens WTF on a 50k car no way.

Porker all the way

f1_fan

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A friend of mine has an Evoque and she has had all sorts of issues with it. Electrical and panel/trim issues mainly. My 11 yo 120K Volvo banger has less rattles than the Evoque.... 9 months old!!!

hodgy0_2

Just shows the power of the LR brand

Littleted

I think more of the hey up I can get a fake range rover for 40k :P

Matteeboy

LRs will NEVER be built properly.

RB5SCOTT

Ive just sold my 991 C2S ready for my GT3 in November but as I've now got some spare cash the Mrs is bugging me for a Macan. I'm happy with the 2 year wait as thats when her car is due to change. Specced the S to 66k so for me its a bit of a no brainer to go for the Turbo that I've specced to 71k

Im off to my dealer on Saturday to go through specs/test drive. As its over 12 month wait its only a 1k deposit

Turbo spec http://cc.porsche.com/icc_euro/ccCal...bcode=PF2Gi3N9

S spec http://cc.porsche.com/icc_euro/ccCal...bcode=pfmwqy40

Thats the problem with the Porsche configurator, its too easy to spend money especially in 3d mode

Butkus

I like these too, I think I would have one over any offering from LR.

Not sure what kind of net worth I'd want to have before finding it OK to drop £60/70k on a car though!

Daryl

Three years into Evoque ownership, just thought I'd update to say that it's been 100% reliable and no rattles. Practical, still looks great, good off-road and worth 70% of its original price.

So much for all the muppets who slagged it off, Scoobynet really sums up what's wrong with car forums!

As for it being a fake RR, go to laugh at somebody saying that when they rented a fake AMG!

Littleted

Fake AMG come again please explain you need to do your research first pal before talking ballocks,Renting what you on about or are you so stuck up that everything's rent unless it's paid for? Your obviously gay cos you drive a birds car lol...and if it's paid for oooo my what a waste of money....
its just a rebadged freelander for women same engines.only the proper RR sports etc have the correct block, the evoque is crap end of

You must have been lucky my mates on his 2nd gearbox on his evoque in 3000 miles and some of the cheap side panels are loose...never again he said.

70% what a load of crap...your need to go out for a drive in a proper car dude rather than ******* in ya birds car.

I'm waiting for your AMG explanation Your just jealous of us AMG driver because your wife forces you to drive that heap of dung....

The Trooper 1815

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Probably a 2 WD version.

LSherratt

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