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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
All this talk of drivers leaving Mercedes, plus who should go where.

Firstly, on July 16, 2014 Mercedes and Rosberg announced an extension of Rosberg's contract.



Are Mercedes going to kick him out? I doubt it very much. I don't recall anything saying Lewis has yet extended his contract.

If the two drivers collide and things get uglier perhaps there will be some movement but rule number one for an F1 driver is: “never give up a winning car”.

Secondly, I believe that the driver market all hinges on one man - Alonso. There will no doubt be an announcement at Imola, in two weeks, concerning Ferrari's drivers for next year. One man, who is very much "in the know" has made the following comment:



Is that going to be Vettel going to Ferrari in place of Alonso, followed by Hamilton to Red Bull?



The off track action will be as exciting as the on track action.
You say Rosberg is going no where because he has a contract then post a quote of someone you respect saying Alonso may be on the move but he also has a contract.

Contracts can have buy outs.

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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 01:58 PM
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Its all about who is the most convincing that their car(s) will be competitive next season, Ricciardo is doing a good job to convince that Red Bull may be up there next year but I can't see Ferrari or Mclaren being any different.
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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by chris j t
The cars being ugly, so what, its not a fashion parade, they look purposeful.
So this is 'purposeful' is it?


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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik

I'd imagine Mercedes would want the FIA to step in and take the decision out of their own hands so they aren't to blame if Rosberg is penalised and if he's not Lewis can't be angry at Mercedes.
+2 Bang on.

Rosberg should be taken outside and shot. Big fairy is about as German as Benjamin what's his face yahoo.
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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
So this is 'purposeful' is it?


Yes, it looks like that for a reason, ie aerodynamics etc not so mrs blue looks good out side the hairdressers.
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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by chris j t
You say Rosberg is going no where because he has a contract then post a quote of someone you respect saying Alonso may be on the move but he also has a contract.

Contracts can have buy outs.
If you read it carefully, you will see that it says Alonso has clauses, which if Ferrari aren't meeting, allows him to look elsewhere.
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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
If you read it carefully, you will see that it says Alonso has clauses, which if Ferrari aren't meeting, allows him to look elsewhere.
So will Rosberg in some way shape or form, if not there is always a a buy out option in some way shape or form.
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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 02:36 PM
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Contracts mean nothing in F1,even less than in football.
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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Contracts mean nothing in F1,even less than in football.
Thank you.
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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chris j t
not so mrs blue looks good out side the hairdressers.
WTF are you talking about?
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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
WTF are you talking about?
Basically a shopping car or a daily run about for a lady, those cars are generally designed with the aesthetics being towards the top of the list.

Did you think I was actually referring to you're wife
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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by chris j t
Did you think I was actually referring to you're wife
Highly unlikely as I doubt you know enough about me to determine if I'm even likely to be married.

The reason that car looks the way it does is purely to conform with current FIA regs whilst trying to attain the greatest aerodynamic benefit and efficiency, and in my opinion does not make for anything other than a pig ugly car. They have looked far more sinuous and racy in years gone by when regulations have permitted better designs.
Beauty is, after all, in the eye of the beholder, just ask Mrs. Blue.
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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
Highly unlikely as I doubt you know enough about me to determine if I'm even likely to be married.

The reason that car looks the way it does is purely to conform with current FIA regs whilst trying to attain the greatest aerodynamic benefit and efficiency, and in my opinion does not make for anything other than a pig ugly car. They have looked far more sinuous and racy in years gone by when regulations have permitted better designs.
Beauty is, after all, in the eye of the beholder, just ask Mrs. Blue.
Agreed.
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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
All this talk of drivers leaving Mercedes, plus who should go where.

Firstly, on July 16, 2014 Mercedes and Rosberg announced an extension of Rosberg's contract.



Are Mercedes going to kick him out? I doubt it very much. I don't recall anything saying Lewis has yet extended his contract.

If the two drivers collide and things get uglier perhaps there will be some movement but rule number one for an F1 driver is: “never give up a winning car”.

Secondly, I believe that the driver market all hinges on one man - Alonso. There will no doubt be an announcement at Imola, in two weeks, concerning Ferrari's drivers for next year. One man, who is very much "in the know" has made the following comment:



Is that going to be Vettel going to Ferrari in place of Alonso, followed by Hamilton to Red Bull?



The off track action will be as exciting as the on track action.
Its all very interesting, but at the end of the day its just speculation. educated speculation, but speculation never the less.

And Raikkonen arguably out drove Alonso at Spa.
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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 12:48 PM
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Sounds like FIA may clip rosbergs wings anyway, banned for a race for deliberately causing a collision maybe? don't they hand out stop and go's for accidentally causing one?

Did he deliberately cause the collision? yes, he admits he put his car in a position that another car had the right of way. so was deliberate and he should be punished.

Agree that mercedes are waiting for the FIA to punish and not doing it themselves, they are in a dodgy position though, rosberg was bang out of order, but are mercedes gonna punish the championship leader in any meaningful way? unlikley
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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 12:52 PM
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Just read, FIA doing nothing. so what will merc do?

Nothing as well i expect, sop where will hamilton be next year then? ferrari? back with mclaren?
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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 01:10 PM
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As much as I have always followed and supported Ferrari, I wouldn't blame Alonso if he left.

It is totally unacceptable that the Ferrari power unit is so far behind the Mercedes.

Alonso should have 5 titles under his belt by now. He IS the best driver out there in my opinion. He never has a bad weekend in terms of his own performance against his team mate. What other driver can say that?

I see him at McLaren next year alongside Kevin.
Button will retire. I'm just not sure if Vettel will stay at Redbull. Hey, he may even end up at Ferrari.

A lot of changes are on the cards for next year, contracts or no contracts!

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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
As much as I have always followed and supported Ferrari, I wouldn't blame Alonso if he left.

It is totally unacceptable that the Ferrari power unit is so far behind the Mercedes.

Alonso should have 5 titles under his belt by now. He IS the best driver out there in my opinion. He never has a bad weekend in terms of his own performance against his team mate. What other driver can say that?

I see him at McLaren next year alongside Kevin.
Button will retire. I'm just not sure if Vettel will stay at Redbull. Hey, he may even end up at Ferrari.

A lot of changes are on the cards for next year, contracts or no contracts!

I agree but is the Ferrari power unit far behind or merc far ahead? its not just Farrari, Renault are under performing as well by that logic.
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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 01:44 PM
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FIA wont take action.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/28934044
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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by chris j t
I agree but is the Ferrari power unit far behind or merc far ahead? its not just Farrari, Renault are under performing as well by that logic.
Yes, but the budget that Ferrari has is on a different level compared to Renault.

At least the Ferrari power unit is reliable.
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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
Alonso should have 5 titles under his belt by now. He IS the best driver out there in my opinion.
As much as I don't particularly like what I know of his personality I can't help but feel you are right.

As for Lewis, Merc will do nothing significant so he just needs to get his head down and drive and see what happens.
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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 06:27 PM
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Mercedes Benz driver driving like a ****, hardly a surprise is it?
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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mouser
Mercedes Benz driver driving like a ****, hardly a surprise is it?
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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 08:42 PM
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Button of all people has come out in support of Lewis. Wonders never cease!
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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Button of all people has come out in support of Lewis. Wonders never cease!
I don't think thats all that surprising, there has been a few that have moved slightly over towards camp Lewis and in a sport where everyone likes to keep there opinions to themselves.

Iam not referring to drivers in the heat of the moment, more the calculated responses post race, team bosses and commentators etc.
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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Button of all people has come out in support of Lewis. Wonders never cease!
Done it again!
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Old Aug 28, 2014 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Button of all people has come out in support of Lewis. Wonders never cease!
Lewis and Jenson at McLaren in 2015?
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Old Aug 28, 2014 | 09:15 AM
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Lewis and Jenson at McLaren in 2015?
Jenson isnt fast enough to keep his seat with 2 No1`s in the team,
Kevin and Lewis maybe. . .
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Lewis and Jenson at McLaren in 2015?
Stranger things have happened.

Really can't see how Lewis and Nico can do another season after this... it really is Prost/Senna all over again.
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
So this is 'purposeful' is it?


Yes it is

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