Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, just ignore them.
03 October 2014, 11:57 PM
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So when Saddam used chemical weapons on the Kurds and killed around 10,000 people we should turn a blind eye? On a smaller scale woman who simply want to be able to choose their own life partner are tortured and murdered in the name of religious belief, and we should say nothing?
I really don't like the fact that the UK seems to be a self elected global policeman. However can you really ignore that kind of inhumanity?
I really don't like the fact that the UK seems to be a self elected global policeman. However can you really ignore that kind of inhumanity?
04 October 2014, 02:02 AM
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who gave sad dam the weapons ? We did why did we give him them? Because we developed the weapons at great expense and wanted a field test to see the effectiveness of them we wanted them used in the Iran Iraq war but sad am refused so was no longer our alli so we wanted him out (bear in mind we put him in power) sad am used the weapons against terrorists in his own country which nobody condones sad dam was a not very nice man but he didn't let extremist religious leaderscontrol the people and made the Middle East a lot more stable than it would be otherwise . But we decided to get rid of him and put another stooge in his place. War makes money for companies that donate to political party's (oil and arms) if we went to war to police the world we'd be in Africa sorting all the truly evil dictators out. I don't think we should be messing about with other countries governments and sending our troops to die to make a few individuals very rich. But what about 911 and the London bombings I hear you say that was a results of poking a dog with a stick. And as for our allies over the pond who do you think gave the ira funding and weapons? I think it's time we dealt with the real threat to the world our governments! There far more guilty of atrocities than sad am ever was more civilians have been killed than "terrorists" what's the difference between using chemical weapons and carpet bombing cities with innocent women and children asleep in there beds?
Oh and who the **** is 'sad am'?
We need to stop pretending to do something about ISIS, and actually DO SOMETHING.
All this nonsense about only attacking ISIS in Iraq is ridiculous and completely ineffective
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04 October 2014, 04:20 AM
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who gave sad dam the weapons ? We did why did we give him them? Because we developed the weapons at great expense and wanted a field test to see the effectiveness of them we wanted them used in the Iran Iraq war but sad am refused so was no longer our alli so we wanted him out (bear in mind we put him in power) sad am used the weapons against terrorists in his own country which nobody condones sad dam was a not very nice man but he didn't let extremist religious leaderscontrol the people and made the Middle East a lot more stable than it would be otherwise . But we decided to get rid of him and put another stooge in his place. War makes money for companies that donate to political party's (oil and arms) if we went to war to police the world we'd be in Africa sorting all the truly evil dictators out. I don't think we should be messing about with other countries governments and sending our troops to die to make a few individuals very rich. But what about 911 and the London bombings I hear you say that was a results of poking a dog with a stick. And as for our allies over the pond who do you think gave the ira funding and weapons? I think it's time we dealt with the real threat to the world our governments! There far more guilty of atrocities than sad am ever was more civilians have been killed than "terrorists" what's the difference between using chemical weapons and carpet bombing cities with innocent women and children asleep in there beds?
You sound like you are one of ISIS wanting to take on western government.
04 October 2014, 07:45 AM
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04 October 2014, 08:40 AM
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04 October 2014, 09:00 AM
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04 October 2014, 09:04 AM
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They people can't really believe this sort of behaviour will Cause the world to let them alone and tacitly allow Islamic extremism / murder of anyone who doesn't belong
Can they.
Can they.
04 October 2014, 11:30 AM
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Indeed we are, as ridiculous as it may sound.
The mainstream media gets the blame for that.
We are all robots here on earth to work hard daily, pay taxes and do as your told, without us, there wouldn't be productivity,growth and wealth,the elite wouldn't be so elite without your cooperation....ps.don't worry about outside terrorist threats though as our government will protect you.
The mainstream media gets the blame for that.
We are all robots here on earth to work hard daily, pay taxes and do as your told, without us, there wouldn't be productivity,growth and wealth,the elite wouldn't be so elite without your cooperation....ps.don't worry about outside terrorist threats though as our government will protect you.
04 October 2014, 12:49 PM
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04 October 2014, 07:24 PM
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Hearing Hennings friend, Kasim Jamil on the radio, he is obviously distraught - heartbreaking to listen too
It seems that even al Qaeda and other Jiahdist were against the beheading, recognising Hennings simple humanity towards suffering Muslims
I suspect that cVnt jihady John is a dead man walking - Lets hope so
It seems that even al Qaeda and other Jiahdist were against the beheading, recognising Hennings simple humanity towards suffering Muslims
I suspect that cVnt jihady John is a dead man walking - Lets hope so
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04 October 2014, 08:08 PM
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All hope for humanity over there is lost IMO.
You can't argue or even reason with this kind of idiotic thinking: "This man is Western, its his fault so lets behead him".
Whilst I agree the Iraq invasion over WMDs was bollocks and in part led us here. IF these guys wanted peace, they wouldn't do this. I'm the most cynical of most people, but if there was a time to meddle with foreign affairs, this is it....this is from someone who didn't even think the "Iraqi supergun" would have even been capable of doing what it was alleged to do.
BUT not the UK. Nor the West at that. It has to be collective. If the neighboring countries want our help, we'll give it....but THEY must be the ones making the stand, not US.
You can't argue or even reason with this kind of idiotic thinking: "This man is Western, its his fault so lets behead him".
Whilst I agree the Iraq invasion over WMDs was bollocks and in part led us here. IF these guys wanted peace, they wouldn't do this. I'm the most cynical of most people, but if there was a time to meddle with foreign affairs, this is it....this is from someone who didn't even think the "Iraqi supergun" would have even been capable of doing what it was alleged to do.
BUT not the UK. Nor the West at that. It has to be collective. If the neighboring countries want our help, we'll give it....but THEY must be the ones making the stand, not US.
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04 October 2014, 09:26 PM
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Time to send our boys and girls on the ground IN to stop any more Brits suffering at the cowardly Cancer that is IS. If they want a fight pick on someone their own size as they say, a crack armed SAS soldier not a unarmed aid working cabbie. As it stands they are having a free ride to terrorism.
What I find hard to believe is that If I post some **** in the internet the cyber police would chap on my door, I would like a Tornado GR4 missal laden to chap on the door of the IP address that posts the video of the beheading on the internet with a few paveway missiles . This would be a great start that's the warning the British government should be sending out.
04 October 2014, 09:39 PM
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Hearing Hennings friend, Kasim Jamil on the radio, he is obviously distraught - heartbreaking to listen too
It seems that even al Qaeda and other Jiahdist were against the beheading, recognising Hennings simple humanity towards suffering Muslims
I suspect that cVnt jihady John is a dead man walking - Lets hope so
It seems that even al Qaeda and other Jiahdist were against the beheading, recognising Hennings simple humanity towards suffering Muslims
I suspect that cVnt jihady John is a dead man walking - Lets hope so
05 October 2014, 11:12 AM
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I was born a white Christian but now I am not religious in any way, but I have the right to go to anywhere in this planet down the local shop or to Syria, hoody's, junkies and Muslim extremists should not stop me FFS and if they do I would like to think the government has got my back as they say "never bite the hand it feeds you even Boris Johnston ( reality check required) and David Cameron needs to remember that, I as a tax payer pay their wages to protect me as a Brit.
05 October 2014, 11:17 AM
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He is living in Cuukoo land, he dosen't have the right to go anywhere on this planet and the government do not have his back either, I bet the poor bloke who have head their heads hacked off were of the same mindset as well.
06 October 2014, 10:12 AM
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As will anything your beloved government come up with as they do not understand the enemy. These people have different values to the West. They see dying at the hands of the West as an honour and a privilege. They are not beatable by any Western military tactic short of complete obliteration of them, the civilians they mix with and the land they inhabit... and (rightly) that is not going to happen!
06 October 2014, 01:54 PM
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As will anything your beloved government come up with as they do not understand the enemy. These people have different values to the West. They see dying at the hands of the West as an honour and a privilege. They are not beatable by any Western military tactic short of complete obliteration of them, the civilians they mix with and the land they inhabit... and (rightly) that is not going to happen!
Why the *** am I paying all this tax for security services, Foreign Office and armed forces, when instead they could just ask you ?
06 October 2014, 02:00 PM
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I didn't say that. I wish you would learn to read.
The difference is I am not claiming to be able to win a 'war' against IS just to appease those who 'want something done'.
Obama was at his most honest when he said he didn't know what to do about IS.
Come back to this thread and call me all the names you want when we have 'won' the 'war' against IS. I shan't hold my breath as this will be another long drawn out mess where we will ultimately cease operations having achieved nothing.
The difference is I am not claiming to be able to win a 'war' against IS just to appease those who 'want something done'.
Obama was at his most honest when he said he didn't know what to do about IS.
Come back to this thread and call me all the names you want when we have 'won' the 'war' against IS. I shan't hold my breath as this will be another long drawn out mess where we will ultimately cease operations having achieved nothing.
06 October 2014, 02:06 PM
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I didn't say that. I wish you would learn to read.
The difference is I am not claiming to be able to win a 'war' against IS just to appease those who 'want something done'.
Obama was at his most honest when he said he didn't know what to do about IS.
Come back to this thread and call me all the names you want when we have 'won' the 'war' against IS. I shan't hold my breath as this will be another long drawn out mess where we will ultimately cease operations having achieved nothing.
The difference is I am not claiming to be able to win a 'war' against IS just to appease those who 'want something done'.
Obama was at his most honest when he said he didn't know what to do about IS.
Come back to this thread and call me all the names you want when we have 'won' the 'war' against IS. I shan't hold my breath as this will be another long drawn out mess where we will ultimately cease operations having achieved nothing.
There are no good options here though are there? Either we stand aside a hope everything goes away, or get involved and hope we can achieve some kind of result (whatever that looks like).
Most of the world leaders have already acknowledged that this is going to be a generational struggle.
I guess it will be a struggle whether we're proactive or reactive.
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Well our governments response so far can be best described as half-arsed.
There are no good options here though are there? Either we stand aside a hope everything goes away, or get involved and hope we can achieve some kind of result (whatever that looks like).
Most of the world leaders have already acknowledged that this is going to be a generational struggle.
I guess it will be a struggle whether we're proactive or reactive.
There are no good options here though are there? Either we stand aside a hope everything goes away, or get involved and hope we can achieve some kind of result (whatever that looks like).
Most of the world leaders have already acknowledged that this is going to be a generational struggle.
I guess it will be a struggle whether we're proactive or reactive.
