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The UK is very poor when it comes to any of this.
How many people rent a place & think they can look forward to feeling safe & secure & plan a family for say 10+ years in the UK? .
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One idiot, one vote, counts the same. When a proportion votes the same then it's valid opinion and worth taking notice of. Wait till the election, I suspect there will be a large new party on the parliament floor
18% or so of the electorate must be thicko's then, eh?
Labour will never win anything with an idiot like Milliband in charge. He'll lose the next election and will be replaced.
As much as I don't like Cameron et al, they will win purely because of the inept opposition.
Labour will never win anything with an idiot like Milliband in charge. He'll lose the next election and will be replaced.
As much as I don't like Cameron et al, they will win purely because of the inept opposition.
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18% or so of the electorate must be thicko's then, eh?
Labour will never win anything with an idiot like Milliband in charge. He'll lose the next election and will be replaced.
As much as I don't like Cameron et al, they will win purely because of the inept opposition.
Labour will never win anything with an idiot like Milliband in charge. He'll lose the next election and will be replaced.
As much as I don't like Cameron et al, they will win purely because of the inept opposition.
I'd say a lot more than 18% of the electorate are thickos.
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During the recent Clacton By Election, a TV reporter stopped a voter to ask what way he was voting, UKIP he said, and then went on to say the he hadn't voted in 30 years but felt the need now - citing immigration as his biggest issue
The thing is Clacton does not have a particular immigrant problem and the other laughable fact was, the cvnt was 35 stone, riding a mobility scooter - one handed (*** in the other hand, obviously) and looked like he had not done a days work in is life
The thing is Clacton does not have a particular immigrant problem and the other laughable fact was, the cvnt was 35 stone, riding a mobility scooter - one handed (*** in the other hand, obviously) and looked like he had not done a days work in is life
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The three main parties have proved themselves to be little more than greedy self serving lying pigs at the trough. Labour particularly get under my skin as I am a socialist at heart and to see what that party has become makes my blood boil. The Tories have always been greedy right wing self servers, but to see the Labour Party become a mirror of them sickens me. The Lib Dems are little more than a political joke grabbing at power like a child let loose in a sweet shop!
So overall I want something to kick the system and kick it hard. UKIP are not really my politics aside from the fact I do think we need to get out of the EU and I think their stance on energy while not all green and tree hugging is honest and realistic!
However right now the biggest thing going for them is when Farage talks he (rightly or maybe wrongly) convinces me that what he says is what he thinks is right for the UK and not solely for his career. I may not agree with everything he says, but at least he convinces me he is saying it for the right reasons.
Now maybe he will turn out to be another career politician like Cameron, Osborne, Blair, Clegg etc. but I would rather vote for a party that may, just may, have the UK people's interests at heart than one I definitely know does not and a party that if enough people get behind them can give the smug self servers like Cameron and Miliband a good hard kick in gonads!
It's either that or I don't vote (again)!
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To be honest what I think is this.
The three main parties have proved themselves to be little more than greedy self serving lying pigs at the trough. Labour particularly get under my skin as I am a socialist at heart and to see what that party has become makes my blood boil. The Tories have always been greedy right wing self servers, but to see the Labour Party become a mirror of them sickens me. The Lib Dems are little more than a political joke grabbing at power like a child let loose in a sweet shop!
So overall I want something to kick the system and kick it hard. UKIP are not really my politics aside from the fact I do think we need to get out of the EU and I think their stance on energy while not all green and tree hugging is honest and realistic!
However right now the biggest thing going for them is when Farage talks he (rightly or maybe wrongly) convinces me that what he says is what he thinks is right for the UK and not solely for his career. I may not agree with everything he says, but at least he convinces me he is saying it for the right reasons.
Now maybe he will turn out to be another career politician like Cameron, Osborne, Blair, Clegg etc. but I would rather vote for a party that may, just may, have the UK people's interests at heart than one I definitely know does not and a party that if enough people get behind them can give the smug self servers like Cameron and Miliband a good hard kick in gonads!
It's either that or I don't vote (again)!
The three main parties have proved themselves to be little more than greedy self serving lying pigs at the trough. Labour particularly get under my skin as I am a socialist at heart and to see what that party has become makes my blood boil. The Tories have always been greedy right wing self servers, but to see the Labour Party become a mirror of them sickens me. The Lib Dems are little more than a political joke grabbing at power like a child let loose in a sweet shop!
So overall I want something to kick the system and kick it hard. UKIP are not really my politics aside from the fact I do think we need to get out of the EU and I think their stance on energy while not all green and tree hugging is honest and realistic!
However right now the biggest thing going for them is when Farage talks he (rightly or maybe wrongly) convinces me that what he says is what he thinks is right for the UK and not solely for his career. I may not agree with everything he says, but at least he convinces me he is saying it for the right reasons.
Now maybe he will turn out to be another career politician like Cameron, Osborne, Blair, Clegg etc. but I would rather vote for a party that may, just may, have the UK people's interests at heart than one I definitely know does not and a party that if enough people get behind them can give the smug self servers like Cameron and Miliband a good hard kick in gonads!
It's either that or I don't vote (again)!
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To be honest what I think is this.
The three main parties have proved themselves to be little more than greedy self serving lying pigs at the trough. Labour particularly get under my skin as I am a socialist at heart and to see what that party has become makes my blood boil. The Tories have always been greedy right wing self servers, but to see the Labour Party become a mirror of them sickens me. The Lib Dems are little more than a political joke grabbing at power like a child let loose in a sweet shop!
So overall I want something to kick the system and kick it hard. UKIP are not really my politics aside from the fact I do think we need to get out of the EU and I think their stance on energy while not all green and tree hugging is honest and realistic!
However right now the biggest thing going for them is when Farage talks he (rightly or maybe wrongly) convinces me that what he says is what he thinks is right for the UK and not solely for his career. I may not agree with everything he says, but at least he convinces me he is saying it for the right reasons.
Now maybe he will turn out to be another career politician like Cameron, Osborne, Blair, Clegg etc. but I would rather vote for a party that may, just may, have the UK people's interests at heart than one I definitely know does not and a party that if enough people get behind them can give the smug self servers like Cameron and Miliband a good hard kick in gonads!
It's either that or I don't vote (again)!
The three main parties have proved themselves to be little more than greedy self serving lying pigs at the trough. Labour particularly get under my skin as I am a socialist at heart and to see what that party has become makes my blood boil. The Tories have always been greedy right wing self servers, but to see the Labour Party become a mirror of them sickens me. The Lib Dems are little more than a political joke grabbing at power like a child let loose in a sweet shop!
So overall I want something to kick the system and kick it hard. UKIP are not really my politics aside from the fact I do think we need to get out of the EU and I think their stance on energy while not all green and tree hugging is honest and realistic!
However right now the biggest thing going for them is when Farage talks he (rightly or maybe wrongly) convinces me that what he says is what he thinks is right for the UK and not solely for his career. I may not agree with everything he says, but at least he convinces me he is saying it for the right reasons.
Now maybe he will turn out to be another career politician like Cameron, Osborne, Blair, Clegg etc. but I would rather vote for a party that may, just may, have the UK people's interests at heart than one I definitely know does not and a party that if enough people get behind them can give the smug self servers like Cameron and Miliband a good hard kick in gonads!
It's either that or I don't vote (again)!
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To be honest what I think is this.
The three main parties have proved themselves to be little more than greedy self serving lying pigs at the trough. Labour particularly get under my skin as I am a socialist at heart and to see what that party has become makes my blood boil. The Tories have always been greedy right wing self servers, but to see the Labour Party become a mirror of them sickens me. The Lib Dems are little more than a political joke grabbing at power like a child let loose in a sweet shop!
So overall I want something to kick the system and kick it hard. UKIP are not really my politics aside from the fact I do think we need to get out of the EU and I think their stance on energy while not all green and tree hugging is honest and realistic!
However right now the biggest thing going for them is when Farage talks he (rightly or maybe wrongly) convinces me that what he says is what he thinks is right for the UK and not solely for his career. I may not agree with everything he says, but at least he convinces me he is saying it for the right reasons.
Now maybe he will turn out to be another career politician like Cameron, Osborne, Blair, Clegg etc. but I would rather vote for a party that may, just may, have the UK people's interests at heart than one I definitely know does not and a party that if enough people get behind them can give the smug self servers like Cameron and Miliband a good hard kick in gonads!
It's either that or I don't vote (again)!
The three main parties have proved themselves to be little more than greedy self serving lying pigs at the trough. Labour particularly get under my skin as I am a socialist at heart and to see what that party has become makes my blood boil. The Tories have always been greedy right wing self servers, but to see the Labour Party become a mirror of them sickens me. The Lib Dems are little more than a political joke grabbing at power like a child let loose in a sweet shop!
So overall I want something to kick the system and kick it hard. UKIP are not really my politics aside from the fact I do think we need to get out of the EU and I think their stance on energy while not all green and tree hugging is honest and realistic!
However right now the biggest thing going for them is when Farage talks he (rightly or maybe wrongly) convinces me that what he says is what he thinks is right for the UK and not solely for his career. I may not agree with everything he says, but at least he convinces me he is saying it for the right reasons.
Now maybe he will turn out to be another career politician like Cameron, Osborne, Blair, Clegg etc. but I would rather vote for a party that may, just may, have the UK people's interests at heart than one I definitely know does not and a party that if enough people get behind them can give the smug self servers like Cameron and Miliband a good hard kick in gonads!
It's either that or I don't vote (again)!
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However right now the biggest thing going for them is when Farage talks he (rightly or maybe wrongly) convinces me that what he says is what he thinks is right for the UK and not solely for his career. I may not agree with everything he says, but at least he convinces me he is saying it for the right reasons.
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Farage has already talked about a "confidence and supply" deal with the Tories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_and_supply) in order to get a 2015 referendum after the next election. More seats mean more influence which is obviously what UKIP want although I think I detect a slight cynical "snouts in the trough" tone in your comment, hopefully I've misjudged you!
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Farage has already talked about a "confidence and supply" deal with the Tories (Confidence and supply - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) in order to get a 2015 referendum after the next election. More seats mean more influence which is obviously what UKIP want although I think I detect a slight cynical "snouts in the trough" tone in your comment, hopefully I've misjudged you!
I was commenting on the possibility of Farage using the "pact" negotiations for his own personal advantage
Would I blame him? probably not - but I suspect some supporters would feel let down
As I say pure conjecture on my part - I don't agree with what he says, but he does seem to come over as "a man of his word" in old skool parlance
So it would be a shame if he was seen to "sell out"
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Well I haven't seen anything to suggest it, so until he does he gets my vote
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Farage seems to be flip flopping though. In 2012 he said that public funding for the NHS should stop and we should go to an insurance based system.
Farage has now done a complete U turn. He has now become a proper politician
Farage has now done a complete U turn. He has now become a proper politician
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