RIP Windows XP
09 April 2014, 08:06 PM
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I like an OS that just lets me get on with it, that's why I like OSX!
Used to be into building PCs and overclocking and all that nonsense, but these days I need a computer I can turn on, not have to fight it at every turn to get it to do what I want it to do and then turn it off!
Used to be into building PCs and overclocking and all that nonsense, but these days I need a computer I can turn on, not have to fight it at every turn to get it to do what I want it to do and then turn it off!
I remember a thread 2/3yrs ago when I first got my MacBook Air and I said as much, I was completely sick and tired of PC's almost every time I wanted to use it the ******* thing would throw a wobbly.The king is dead, god save the king.
09 April 2014, 09:54 PM
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PICNIC - problem in the chair, not in the computer!!!!
Just moved 280 end points off XP and onto windows 7, and 90 away from XP Embedded to 7 embedded - the rest of the corporate platform is on Vista and I hate every aspect of it - A decision taken by a muppet who happens to be our technical design authority.
Just moved 280 end points off XP and onto windows 7, and 90 away from XP Embedded to 7 embedded - the rest of the corporate platform is on Vista and I hate every aspect of it - A decision taken by a muppet who happens to be our technical design authority.
10 April 2014, 12:34 AM
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It's not a fact that it's worse than Windows 7, it's just your opinion based on whatever criteria you judge it by and as I said you can make love to it every morning for all I care.... as far as I am concerned its **** and you posting like some sort of weirdo with a jumped up opinion of your own worth to this forum makes no difference to my opinion!
Now why run along and run Windows Update for the umpteenth time this week
10 April 2014, 06:22 AM
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If that's the case then please explain why I have not had any such problems with my MacBook Air.
I'm the first to admit i'm not a computer boffin as I have no interest in how or why they do the things that they do, all I want from a computer is for it to perform basic tasks, as do the vast majority of the population.
It always amuses me that those who are interested in the subject presume that the rest of us are idiots and must have done something wrong when the PC won't do what it's supposed to, it couldn't possibly be the fact that microsoft is a bag of ****.
I'm the first to admit i'm not a computer boffin as I have no interest in how or why they do the things that they do, all I want from a computer is for it to perform basic tasks, as do the vast majority of the population.
It always amuses me that those who are interested in the subject presume that the rest of us are idiots and must have done something wrong when the PC won't do what it's supposed to, it couldn't possibly be the fact that microsoft is a bag of ****.
10 April 2014, 06:32 AM
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I think windows user just get used to it - things being a bit shoddy
I ran Windows 7 - on an HP Elite Book for 3 odd years and virtually every single time I closed it - at the end of the day, it crashed
i.e. could not close "unresponsive" programmes
and if I hibernated it, the next day when turned back on it could take 15 mins to boot to a state where I could use I again
I ran Windows 7 - on an HP Elite Book for 3 odd years and virtually every single time I closed it - at the end of the day, it crashed
i.e. could not close "unresponsive" programmes
and if I hibernated it, the next day when turned back on it could take 15 mins to boot to a state where I could use I again
10 April 2014, 06:38 AM
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Exactly, I press the on button 7 seconds later hey presto it's up and running, almost 3yrs now and non of the nonsense I had to endure with windows, and when I feel the need to upgrade the mac is still worth something where as the PC goes in the bin.
10 April 2014, 06:40 AM
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You care not yet you just had to post
It's not a fact that it's worse than Windows 7, it's just your opinion based on whatever criteria you judge it by and as I said you can make love to it every morning for all I care.... as far as I am concerned its **** and you posting like some sort of weirdo with a jumped up opinion of your own worth to this forum makes no difference to my opinion!
Now why run along and run Windows Update for the umpteenth time this week
It's not a fact that it's worse than Windows 7, it's just your opinion based on whatever criteria you judge it by and as I said you can make love to it every morning for all I care.... as far as I am concerned its **** and you posting like some sort of weirdo with a jumped up opinion of your own worth to this forum makes no difference to my opinion!
Now why run along and run Windows Update for the umpteenth time this week
Windows 7 is way better than XP. The only reason XP has lasted is because it is compatible with much older hardware in things such as ATM's and corporate networks, and the corporates kicked off as they didn't want to update their entire networks to Vista. I use XP at work and windows 7 everywhere else and XP is well overdue a death. Sure Vista had loads of faults and earned XP a reprieve, but Vista is ancient history now, more so XP.
And Regular Updates to fix exploits are a bad thing now are they?
Yeah here comes the personal insults, like the fanboys always resort to when they can't distinguish facts from opinions.
10 April 2014, 09:01 AM
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I am not posting opinion, I am posting fact based on stability, multicore performance, compatibility with modern hardware, memory usage, speed and feel. The only area where XP wins is on low end hardware with small levels of RAM.
Windows 7 is way better than XP. The only reason XP has lasted is because it is compatible with much older hardware in things such as ATM's and corporate networks, and the corporates kicked off as they didn't want to update their entire networks to Vista. I use XP at work and windows 7 everywhere else and XP is well overdue a death. Sure Vista had loads of faults and earned XP a reprieve, but Vista is ancient history now, more so XP.
And Regular Updates to fix exploits are a bad thing now are they?
Yeah here comes the personal insults, like the fanboys always resort to when they can't distinguish facts from opinions.
Windows 7 is way better than XP. The only reason XP has lasted is because it is compatible with much older hardware in things such as ATM's and corporate networks, and the corporates kicked off as they didn't want to update their entire networks to Vista. I use XP at work and windows 7 everywhere else and XP is well overdue a death. Sure Vista had loads of faults and earned XP a reprieve, but Vista is ancient history now, more so XP.
And Regular Updates to fix exploits are a bad thing now are they?
Yeah here comes the personal insults, like the fanboys always resort to when they can't distinguish facts from opinions.
You see, it's how you judge it that dictates whether it is better in YOUR or MY opinion, but the fact remains its legacy is far greater than than Windows 7 or 8's ever will be!
As I originally said it was MS's last great OS and the fact it doesn't stack up against the latest version of Windows for support of modern hardware and stability is really only to be expected.
On older hardware it still works just fine, I have 2003 and 2010 PCs running XP that I use for testing (and a few other Windows only gizmos like Euroflash ECU software) both of which rarely if ever crash!
I also have a Windows 7 partition on my 2010 PC (a Dell) and that is as flaky as anything despite Dell indicating full support for it. I am not alone as hodgy has pointed out so maybe it's not quite as great as you make out after all!
Anyway it's all a moot point now as I am on OSX for the majority of my work these days and if people want to call me stupid because I dumped Windows because I found it too finicky and a pan to use then crack on as I know which for me is the better system.
Jack's post was funny as the other day I bought a new network printer and was dreaeding setting it up on the Mac remembering how **** Windows can be with printers.... literally two clicks and it was installed. Yep, if that makes me stupid then no worries
As for updates they are a good thing and I know my Mac does them... it just doesn't feel the need to bother me with the message 'how f**king great am I as I just installed some updates ... oh and I'm about to reboot and f**k up your day'
10 April 2014, 09:17 AM
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I have used Mac and windows.
Mac has its benefits but I have no issue with windows 7. Starts up/shuts down fine. Only issue I have is that youtube sometimes freezes my computer but that is due to hardware and not software.
Mac has its benefits but I have no issue with windows 7. Starts up/shuts down fine. Only issue I have is that youtube sometimes freezes my computer but that is due to hardware and not software.
10 April 2014, 10:00 AM
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Not at all, I was a big of Microsoft until Vista arrived and finally I have given up. Sorry, but the Mac is better for what I wnat from a computer these days, that's all I am saying! Just better for me, everyone else can use whatever they like with my blessing
10 April 2014, 10:53 AM
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10 April 2014, 10:56 AM
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If that's the case then please explain why I have not had any such problems with my MacBook Air.
I'm the first to admit i'm not a computer boffin as I have no interest in how or why they do the things that they do, all I want from a computer is for it to perform basic tasks, as do the vast majority of the population.
It always amuses me that those who are interested in the subject presume that the rest of us are idiots and must have done something wrong when the PC won't do what it's supposed to, it couldn't possibly be the fact that microsoft is a bag of ****.
I'm the first to admit i'm not a computer boffin as I have no interest in how or why they do the things that they do, all I want from a computer is for it to perform basic tasks, as do the vast majority of the population.
It always amuses me that those who are interested in the subject presume that the rest of us are idiots and must have done something wrong when the PC won't do what it's supposed to, it couldn't possibly be the fact that microsoft is a bag of ****.
10 April 2014, 04:00 PM
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XP is way better than Windows 7, it works properly on old hardware, has a better more intuitive and less intrusive user interface and is still in use 13 years after it was created with people happy to pay over the odds to keep on supporting it after its official end of life date.
You see, it's how you judge it that dictates whether it is better in YOUR or MY opinion, but the fact remains its legacy is far greater than than Windows 7 or 8's ever will be!
As I originally said it was MS's last great OS and the fact it doesn't stack up against the latest version of Windows for support of modern hardware and stability is really only to be expected.
On older hardware it still works just fine, I have 2003 and 2010 PCs running XP that I use for testing (and a few other Windows only gizmos like Euroflash ECU software) both of which rarely if ever crash!
I also have a Windows 7 partition on my 2010 PC (a Dell) and that is as flaky as anything despite Dell indicating full support for it. I am not alone as hodgy has pointed out so maybe it's not quite as great as you make out after all!
Anyway it's all a moot point now as I am on OSX for the majority of my work these days and if people want to call me stupid because I dumped Windows because I found it too finicky and a pan to use then crack on as I know which for me is the better system.
Jack's post was funny as the other day I bought a new network printer and was dreaeding setting it up on the Mac remembering how **** Windows can be with printers.... literally two clicks and it was installed. Yep, if that makes me stupid then no worries
As for updates they are a good thing and I know my Mac does them... it just doesn't feel the need to bother me with the message 'how f**king great am I as I just installed some updates ... oh and I'm about to reboot and f**k up your day'
You see, it's how you judge it that dictates whether it is better in YOUR or MY opinion, but the fact remains its legacy is far greater than than Windows 7 or 8's ever will be!
As I originally said it was MS's last great OS and the fact it doesn't stack up against the latest version of Windows for support of modern hardware and stability is really only to be expected.
On older hardware it still works just fine, I have 2003 and 2010 PCs running XP that I use for testing (and a few other Windows only gizmos like Euroflash ECU software) both of which rarely if ever crash!
I also have a Windows 7 partition on my 2010 PC (a Dell) and that is as flaky as anything despite Dell indicating full support for it. I am not alone as hodgy has pointed out so maybe it's not quite as great as you make out after all!
Anyway it's all a moot point now as I am on OSX for the majority of my work these days and if people want to call me stupid because I dumped Windows because I found it too finicky and a pan to use then crack on as I know which for me is the better system.
Jack's post was funny as the other day I bought a new network printer and was dreaeding setting it up on the Mac remembering how **** Windows can be with printers.... literally two clicks and it was installed. Yep, if that makes me stupid then no worries
As for updates they are a good thing and I know my Mac does them... it just doesn't feel the need to bother me with the message 'how f**king great am I as I just installed some updates ... oh and I'm about to reboot and f**k up your day'
Never mind it has bad memory leaks, in the limited memory it actually supports, it crashes more regularly than Andrea de Cesaris (an analogy you should have little difficulty understanding) FOR NO EXPLICABLE REASON! (fact not opinion) Yet other than a hardware fault I have never had a Win7 Blue screen (fact not opinion).
The windows 7 interface can be made to look and feel almost identical to XP bar a few minor things such as control panel, so that argument is invalid and just shows your lack of experience with Win7. It has way inferior network speed to Win7 (fact not opinion).
With limited ram, XP can be as fast in some cases as Win7, however, add a decent amount of ram (over 4gb) with 64bit support, and win7 just spanks XP into next week on almost every task, not an option on XP and x64 was just dire... (fact not opinion).
Updates are easy to handle and you can select your own install time and have them install silently and reboot when the PC isn't in use, just because you are unable to handle the scheduler you really shouldn't blame MS.
I just added an Epson wireless all in one printer to my network and the computer installed the drivers for the whole thing without any drama or a CD. Clearly doing such a thing merely depends on whether the OS supports that device already? And with XP, it doesn't support ANYTHING new without extensive driver addons, usually resulting in more bluescreens.
If windows 7 is flaky on your Dell, then there could be any number of hardware issues or Dell driver issues, or it could be user error.
Finally, if you are really desperate for XP you can run it under windows 7 without having to reboot and change OS (assuming Pro or Ultimate).
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/w...e-in-windows-7
So yes, no opinions here merely facts, and you have an opinion based on incomplete facts.
I do have 1 PC still running XP, a laptop with 2gb of ram which would be pointless upgrading so I just let the kids use it. XP is fine for older hardware, but as that hardware is now getting antiquated so is the OS.
Luckily you have started with Mac's so you will never need to worry about win7/8.1 etc etc.
10 April 2014, 04:25 PM
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Frankly I can't be ar5ed with the rest of your post ... as said if you want to suck the metaphorical **** of Microsoft... get on with it as it's entirely up to you! I, on the other hand, am done with them for the reasons stated (just my opinon of course) ... and good riddance!
Oh and enjoy your f**king scheduler or whatever it's called.... the Mac just does it out of the box btw
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10 April 2014, 05:15 PM
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I had been using Windows for about 10 years and just 1 1/2 years ago I switched over to a Mac. To be honest, I didn't have many problems with Windows on my PC's and it never slowed down either. My Dad's on the other hand was having trouble all the time with his computers, blue screens and crashes, things not working etc. Maybe I was lucky but I did try my best to look after my PC's and keep programs to a minimum.
Both Windows and Mac work well for me and I don't regret converting to the Mac. Looking at Windows 8 though I am glad I did and really like using OSX! One thing I remember is that Windows always seemed to be a proper nightmare connecting wireless to the Internet with drivers and LAN and all sorts.... My Mac just does it no hassle at all.
Both Windows and Mac work well for me and I don't regret converting to the Mac. Looking at Windows 8 though I am glad I did and really like using OSX! One thing I remember is that Windows always seemed to be a proper nightmare connecting wireless to the Internet with drivers and LAN and all sorts.... My Mac just does it no hassle at all.
11 April 2014, 07:08 AM
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Always with the gay insults, you're so childish, so what if he sucks ****, pathetic attempt to insult someone when your only argument is that you can't use a PC.
I've quote my reasons (made up opinion) several times now about why I love Macs, I'm done with this thread and wont respond to any more of your posts.
You're a idiot and I'm super intelligent with a tiny *****.
I've quote my reasons (made up opinion) several times now about why I love Macs, I'm done with this thread and wont respond to any more of your posts.
You're a idiot and I'm super intelligent with a tiny *****.
11 April 2014, 08:33 AM
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The only reason I am not responding to his posts any further is that he can't differentiate between facts and opinions which makes him about as thick as you..... and you both use PCs.... what more do we need to know
11 April 2014, 09:18 AM
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Doesn't crash for me, fact not opinion!
Frankly I can't be ar5ed with the rest of your post ... as said if you want to suck the metaphorical **** of Microsoft... get on with it as it's entirely up to you! I, on the other hand, am done with them for the reasons stated (just my opinon of course) ... and good riddance!
Oh and enjoy your f**king scheduler or whatever it's called.... the Mac just does it out of the box btw
Frankly I can't be ar5ed with the rest of your post ... as said if you want to suck the metaphorical **** of Microsoft... get on with it as it's entirely up to you! I, on the other hand, am done with them for the reasons stated (just my opinon of course) ... and good riddance!
Oh and enjoy your f**king scheduler or whatever it's called.... the Mac just does it out of the box btw
11 April 2014, 10:27 AM
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No, I was just trying to find a level low enough to communicate with you on! I think I may need to come down a bit further yet!
Oh and someone needs to learn what an opinion is and why it is not fact! That would be you by the way, sorry that it needs spelling out, but best be clear as you seem utterly unable to grasp other basic nuances of communication!
Oh and someone needs to learn what an opinion is and why it is not fact! That would be you by the way, sorry that it needs spelling out, but best be clear as you seem utterly unable to grasp other basic nuances of communication!
