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Old 25 February 2017, 04:48 PM
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Depends on who's making the juice,usually 15-20% flavor is added so for 200ml you will have 30-40ml of concentrate in there.
70pg/30vg is a lot of pg for my liking,the more pg will be a harsher hit but will carry the flavor more,70vg/30pg is perfect for me but that's just my preference.

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Originally Posted by Rob_Impreza99
Quick question.

If you have bought some pre made e juice from a normal website or shop, can you add more flavour to it by buying some concentrate ?

As an example, if i bought a 200ml bottle of pre made e juice which is 70pg/30vg 6mg in strawberry flavour, how many drops of concentrate would you put into the bottle with the above pre bought ratio ? Would it drop the nicotine level significantly or just slightly ?
You certainly can yep, to increase the flavour i guess is your intention? It wouldn't do anything to the nic levels, it would just increase the flavour. For the drops i would experiment starting with adding a small amount, don't overdo it otherwise it may become too strong. The nic content is the nic content, so if you have 6mg or whatever in there, that will remain the same. if you were making it from scratch with a different percentage of flavour you would adjust the mix by increasing or decreasing the base pg/vg percentage, again the nic stays the same.

Originally Posted by Rob_Impreza99
Up and till recently i've been ordering my pre made e juice from sleekit juice, their ratio is 70vg/30pg. I've just received some e liquid from another company, their ratio is 70pg/30vg. The 70pg/30vg is a lot thinner than the 70vg/30pg that i was getting from sleekit. The question i've got, which is the best for flavour is it 70vg/30pg or 70pg/30vg ?
Yes it would be a lot thinner as the mix has 70% PG. PG carries the flavouring and flavouring has PG in it... usually, so the 70pg/30vg one for more flavour.
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Originally Posted by ossett2k2
Boss shots turned up today,fast delivery and nice clear instructions for mixing
4 week steep for one and 6 weeks for the other.

I've never steeped so is it just a case of storing in a warm dry place and giving it a shake every now and again?
Nice they are really good these. Mate had some pre-steeped that i tried last week.

Just keep it in a cool not warm, dark place, like a cupboard, yep you can shake it every week or so, it doesn't matter too much. I got one of these recently it's a great little tool for blending or mixing your liquids. So for larger volumes i've mixed i decanter into 10,20,30ml bottles, then i give them a mix with it.

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Cheers bio
Just mixed up the unicorn milk so have 500ml of that steeping away a bedroom cupboard,smells lovely,,sooo tempted to try some but must resist!!!

Run out of VG now so waiting on the 5ltr VG/PG mix I ordered then I can mix the other batch
Old 25 February 2017, 05:27 PM
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Np, you can try a little amount if you want it will be vapeable, just won't be as nice as when it's fully steeped When it's steeped you'll just get different layers of tastes and aftertastes.
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Originally Posted by bioforger
Good question, i thought the exact same way and started on devices similar to your K2, until someone let me try their sub-ohm device. Basically it's all about the flavour, throat hit you get with a more up to date mod and a sub ohm tank and how you can then customise that further to suit your needs/preference and how much you want or need to vape. It basically knocks the starter kits out of the park in all areas. Sub ohm vaping/devices are still considered as basic/starter kits there are other levels of vaping, like dripping and using mechanical mods or a combination of both. And of course there's the whole rebuildable/DIY side of vaping which these devices are needed for. So for some it's a hobby as well as being preventative.

But if the kit you are on works for you and you don't feel the need to take it further then that's how it should be. As long as you stay off the **** that's all that counts
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As with what bio said, as long as it works for you it is all that matters. Like having 400hp, why do people want 500hp then 600hp. All though that analogy is not perfect, having devices that have more in the tank(vape time), support lower ohm coils, can supply more power if/when needed plays some part.

For me, i dont use over 40w, heck right now i am around 20w on a 0.3ohm coil. But my mod will do 220w and has 2 x 18650 cells. It can last me a day when in the week, weekend its one cell swap in the day. Before i could eat through a cell in an hour. Bare in mind though, lower ohm coils eats cell mah. Some are that low its like shorting a cell , this mixed with wrong cells=disaster. Thats another story though.

Comfort/design play a part as well, right size , nice screen with info on(voltage/ohms/cell life etc etc) all works well for me. Others just want a button, press and vape. No rights or wrongs and just what works for them. I am a little bit of a gadget gimp tbh , like my man toys(not gimp ones! ). So that plays a little part in the mods i get as well. I dont have to have latest and greatest, just something that works but decent as well.

The pen type mods(e cigs) and small 2ml tanks with 1.8 ohm coils are just worlds apart from todays sub ohm mods imo(subjective). Flavour and hit is chalk/cheese. But back in 2011 iirc when i gave up, they were the only choice and worked for me with the juice(before then it was electronic and real crap). Things have progressed super fast, now it is buy today and next week its old hat(well almost, little exaggerated).

Going from a k2 to say an alien is pretty huge. Not only have you got a different form factor, but a lot more vape time, flavour and options. I remember when box mods came out and thought never!! Who the *beep* would want a square mod when you can use a comfy pen type............no looking back now. As with anything you adjust and get used to it, like the thin drip tips to big bore drip tips. At 1st they felt HUGE, not the thin drip tips feel odd...............we adjust and no going back for me.

Ideally trying out in a decent vape shop before committing £50 or so(still small change compared to cigs). I am sure once with the right juice/nic level and device, it will be like going from a 28" TV to a 60" 4000k...........that is the difference to me from the old pens. More enjoyable experience........

That is just my opinion, all subjective and again what works for you is all that matters. You may get fed up with having to keep charging up, flavour may be a bit week, not getting the hit or what ever reasons. Usually ones i have advised in the past(usually like a kanger box mod to start as offers pre made coils and RBA in the box). All have been happy and not looked back for not much over £25 investment .

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Guys thanks. Great advice and very reassuring. I've only been using it 3 weeks but i'll see how things go and whether I want to progress with this habit or give up entirely. I can see the attraction though
Old 25 February 2017, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bioforger
Np, you can try a little amount if you want it will be vapeable, just won't be as nice as when it's fully steeped When it's steeped you'll just get different layers of tastes and aftertastes.
that's all I needed to hear,I'm digging my crown tank out,will knock a coil up and decant a 10ml bottle up for a little taste,will be interesting to know how much the flavour changes over the 4 week steep.
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Originally Posted by ossett2k2
that's all I needed to hear,I'm digging my crown tank out,will knock a coil up and decant a 10ml bottle up for a little taste,will be interesting to know how much the flavour changes over the 4 week steep.
Yea, i think some of them are shake n vape anyway
Old 25 February 2017, 06:56 PM
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Very nice on 1st impressions,not much of the strawberry flavour coming through but really creamy with a nice aftertaste.
Fresh coil&wick so once that's bedded in a bit I should get some more flavour.
After vaping only Heisenberg for the last 6 months it's a refreshing change
Old 26 February 2017, 02:40 PM
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Yea that'll come out with the steeping.

On another note, Vampire vape are doing a 35% discount on all e-juice atm VAMP35
Old 26 February 2017, 05:30 PM
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Also that TPD ruling i mentioned before, is happening, this was on the same email for the discount reminder from VampireVapes, sad times... well not really it just means you'll have to buy multiple 10ml bottles instead of one in the future

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Nice I had the same problem with my Alien screen protector, bloody bubbles, it also dims the screen quite badly, i fecked mine up tbh and binned it
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I need a new mod in my life
Just keep telling myself the old battered kbox200 still does the same job......must resist!!!
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Originally Posted by bioforger
Nice I had the same problem with my Alien screen protector, bloody bubbles, it also dims the screen quite badly, i fecked mine up tbh and binned it
Yeah I kind of rushed it and didn't think about it before I did it.. got it slightly wrong and had to peel it off and do it again... hence the bubbles.
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Originally Posted by ossett2k2
I need a new mod in my life
Just keep telling myself the old battered kbox200 still does the same job......must resist!!!
You just got the pipe TBH I only got it because I managed to break the glass on my Kbox mini tank... so took that as a sign that the whole set up was on its last legs... it's over a year old and has had some hammer in that time as my main daily vape.

I was looking at 30 quid for a new tank... then this caught my eye at £65 with the TFV8 baby tank included in the package... but that had no rba... so I got a TFV8 big baby with the rba included... guy in the local vape shop did me a VERY good deal at £80 for both... then I decided I'd better get some fresh batteries for it.... if he'd throw in a 30ml bottle of gummy bear juice so 2 batteries and a bottle of juice for 18 quid later and I'm a happy chappy...

Icing on the cake... I've got the tfv8 baby on the kbox mini mod and using that for work.

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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Yeah I kind of rushed it and didn't think about it before I did it.. got it slightly wrong and had to peel it off and do it again... hence the bubbles.
I did it perfectly with nitril gloves on n still got bubbles, it's impossible
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
You just got the pipe TBH I only got it because I managed to break the glass on my Kbox mini tank... so took that as a sign that the whole set up was on its last legs... it's over a year old and has had some hammer in that time as my main daily vape.

I was looking at 30 quid for a new tank... then this caught my eye at £65 with the TFV8 baby tank included in the package... but that had no rba... so I got a TFV8 big baby with the rba included... guy in the local vape shop did me a VERY good deal at £80 for both... then I decided I'd better get some fresh batteries for it.... if he'd throw in a 30ml bottle of gummy bear juice so 2 batteries and a bottle of juice for 18 quid later and I'm a happy chappy...

Icing on the cake... I've got the tfv8 baby on the kbox mini mod and using that for work.
Sounds like a good deal

Yeh I've got my pipe but that's for chilling at home,could do with a smart one for going out
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Originally Posted by ossett2k2
I need a new mod in my life
Just keep telling myself the old battered kbox200 still does the same job......must resist!!!
Do it! tbh mate the mod kicks the kanger products outa the park Not in quality, but definitely in performance and the Smok tfv8 tanks are some of the best subohm tanks on the market and the coils/rba are just awesome.
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Originally Posted by bioforger
Do it! tbh mate the mod kicks the kanger products outa the park Not in quality, but definitely in performance and the Smok tfv8 tanks are some of the best subohm tanks on the market and the coils/rba are just awesome.
I use the smok big baby with the 5ml glass an must say its the best tank in my collection

I know you said the 30ml bottles of juice are ending soon because of the stupid legislation,you also mentioned about a 2ml tank limit,do you know if that's going to happen?
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Originally Posted by bioforger
I did it perfectly with nitril gloves on n still got bubbles, it's impossible
It looks worse in the pic than it is as my flash on the phone is reflecting off the table, it's only slight as you look at it in the top right corner where I peeled it off from and one pin head sized bubble to the left of it... but yeah it was tricky to line it up properly around the buttons.
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Originally Posted by bioforger
Do it! tbh mate the mod kicks the kanger products outa the park Not in quality, but definitely in performance and the Smok tfv8 tanks are some of the best subohm tanks on the market and the coils/rba are just awesome.
Got to say I agree... it's on another level compared to the Kanger... but each has it's place... the tanks are nice too... I really like the ease of use on the top fill... my Griffin tank with velocity deck is as good for flavour but it's a screw top to fill and you have to make sure everything is shut (juice and air vents) or it p!$$es fluid out as you fill... which is Very annoying... as well as a waste of juice when I forget.

Though my Bellus cirus is better than both for flavour... but there's a lot of faffing with that too.

I use the Alien for 'best' too at the min which is why I went for the Bling look, not that I actually go anywhere fancy.

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Originally Posted by ossett2k2
I use the smok big baby with the 5ml glass an must say its the best tank in my collection

I know you said the 30ml bottles of juice are ending soon because of the stupid legislation,you also mentioned about a 2ml tank limit,do you know if that's going to happen?
Oh you have the big baby same as me, then you know

Yup according to all the posts i've read on POTV apparently so, it's going to happen and will completely **** up the subohm market I've also seen other posts where vendors are already looking at new designs with tanks in 2ml sections connected together to get around the ruling
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There should be some of the bigger tanks going on sale cheap then,might order a couple for the future.
Nothing changing reg wise on the mods tho so I doubt prices will drop on those,might just bite the bullet and order one.
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Yep mods are unaffected by any of the rulings.
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Is this going to be a worldwide, European or just a UK thing?
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UK at the moment, but if it happens will definitely spread into the EU. The US is already quite heavily regulated by the FDA, although they can still buy 100mg nic and large bottles.

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Been using the black alien so thought i would try out the baby and RBA(bought separate)
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0.3ohm dual clapton
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wicked n ready to vape.............well nearly as needs some juice
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The extra glass in kit is to counter the RBA size and presume retain the 3ml capacity................either way it does not last long!
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Pretty good, not bad at all other than SMOKS stupidly small top fill hole. Why they dont make it bigger on their tanks is beyond me
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When these new regs come in around the 19th/20th May this year, where the maximum size tank you can buy is a 2ml one.

What will happen with the current tanks that people have like the Smok, Uwell and innokin etc that are well over 2ml. Will you still be able to buy spares and atomizers for those ?

I was thinking of buying a Smok TFV8 Big Baby Beast tank, do you think it will be better to put it on hold to see what happens with these regs that come in soon ?

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The smok tfv12 is out today,,it's monstrous,12 coils


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