scotty44

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After reading the last few pages I want something new
I'm happy with the Tornado c that I use at work (I can keep it on a lanyard) and keep my SVD on the desk......
But I want to try the Istick, do I go 30w or 50w? and looking at the sub mini....
wheres a good place to get them both from?

bioforger

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Either, the 50W one is slightly bigger as the battery is bigger compared to the 30W, 2200mah versus 4400mah. Personally the 30W mod is perfect for me, the batt lasts 2 days and takes 2.5hrs to charge from flat. The 4400 one will obviously last longer, but also takes a lot longer to charge, plus i prefer the size of the 30W box, its tiny.

I get all my kit from myepack.co.uk, brilliant shop, next day delivery usually if ordered early and very good prices.

JackClark

I've just seen you can put the old dual coils in the Subtank! That's handy.

bioforger

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yea, got a source? thats excellent as i bought another 5 for the old kit before i decided to buy the subtank.

JackClark

YouTube video search for dual coil subtank.
I'm out and about.

bioforger

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Yep found it, although its for the subtank and not the mini, but i see comments where people have tried the mini and its fine as well, so will try this at some point.

I'm loving this sub ohming malarky as its making me vape less/taking smaller draws, as there's more heat, throat hit, much more like a cig, but with tons of lovely flavour (juice dependant) otherwise its too much @18mg nic for me all the time. I don't know how people are enjoying it at 25W and above, unless they are all on 11mg nic or below or something.

JackClark

I'm at 20w on 12mg Nicotine and I'm looking forward to burning this thing out and stepping down to the 1.2ohm, it's a bit too much.

bioforger

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lol that could be a month or more going on the reported lifespan of the OCC coils

scotty44

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Cheers mate, order going in now, out of stock on the sub mini but a few other bits on there I like so will hang on for the sub

JackClark

Unless I can dry burn and clean the coil I will not be dragging it out much longer, just had a look at it and am not that keen on heating up that crud and breathing it in. As it's cotton that will mean rewicking, and I doubt I'll do that more than once.

bioforger

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Yep rewicking is best if you can be arsed, it doesn't bother me what it looks like, if it still tastes good and the vapour is ok its good to go imo.

I have to say im loving this tank, it really is a decent hybrid with lots of options. Just tried it this morning with some Totally Wicked juices, wow

scoobysteve1983

I'm currently using an aspire atlantis with an aspire cf sub ohm battery. I'm happy with the tank (if thats what its called, i find all this a bit confusing) but from what I've heard, i should be getting more flavour than i am. with the airflow adjuster wide open i produce nice clouds but flavour is somewhat vague. would i get more flavour using a battery pack that has variable voltage and wattage? i really like the atlantis as its very easy to clean and coils are cheap. been using it for a month and the original coil is still fine. i can't be bothered with rebuilding etc, i like the 'plug and play' functionality. I'm using trip hammer liquids, 6mg strength.

Rob_Impreza99

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Steve

It could be for a couple reasons for you not getting good flavour, do you buy cheap fluid or do you pay a bit extra for better fluid ? In my experience the cheaper the fluid, the less flavour you get. Totally Wicked Red Label is very good.

Also the battery and coil combo you have could be burning too high, the higher the burn the more flavour you lose where it just tastes of not a lot really but you still get a hit.

I'm using a Kanger Ipow2 battery with a Kanger Emow Mega tank, the battery has adjustable wattage upto 15 watts. I'm using that with a 1.5 ohm coil, i have the battery set at 7 watts with 4 air holes open, i get a good hit and nice flavour. If you start going above 8 watts you really notice the loss of flavour, you still get a good hit but without the flavour.

scoobysteve1983

Thanks for the reply. The liquid I'm using is from trip hammer. I'm not sure how to judge cheap or expensive as they're about 4-5 quid per 5ml but reviews on their website are nearly all very good. As for the battery coil combo burning too high, how would i know? would i be better off with a variable voltage/wattage battery thingy, if so which one?

Rob_Impreza99

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That fluid your buying is expensive if it's £4 - £5 for just 5ml, the one i buy is £8.99 for 20ml, it works out even cheaper if you buy the multi packs or wait until it goes on offer then buy in bulk, quite a lot of the time they knock off 25%

This is basically the setup i have

http://myepack.co.uk/kanger-ipow-2-mega-kit.html

The only difference is i'm using the 1.5ohm coils, they are better than the 1.8ohm ones that are included. If you went for a kit like that you could probably contact them and ask if they would change the coils for 1.5ohm ones.

This is the fluid range i use, The Red Label not the retro

http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.co....-products.html

JackClark

Flavour should be good with the Atlantis, old coil?

JackClark

Plus if this is your battery http://www.aspirecig.com/products/MOD/mod185.html you're not supposed to use coils above 1 ohm.

Sy5

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1 month old coil is probably why you're not getting much flavour. I change mine every 7 to 10 days in my nautilus.

bioforger

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I'm definitely going to have a crack at making my own e-juice, it's massively cheaper compared to buying directly. I did a quick calc, basically 30ml of fluid would be about £3 to make 30ml would last me at least a few weeks. Reading up about it plus Ven's advice so far, it really is a piece of p1ss to do. Plus you can make your own personalised mixes/recipes. And theres not a lot you can get wrong really, i guess you could poison yourself to death if you are blind or a moron when using the base nicotine The only thing that puts me off, is to get the best out of your fluid you need to leave it to steep, which can be anywhere from 2 days to a week and the flavouring concentrates will run out quickly. The other elements last ages though and will produce more juice than i can cope with

ossett2k2

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Cool bioforger,let us know how you get on and any tips on making it.
I'm also interested in this as it sounds like a few quid could be saved plus tailor made flavours can only be a good thing

JackClark

You can get it delivered for £3 for 30ml, I think you can make it cheaper than that.

bioforger

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Where from?

ven

I dont leave to steep,tbh its a bit of a myth and does depend on what flavours used. Some a day maybe,me no days,no hours..........straight away. Tastes no different than my larger bottles stored for topping up the smaller 30ml ones...........can be in bottle for well over a week or 3 as make a few 100ml a time.

£3 for 30ml...........imho its not going to be the best ingredients.........it just cant be. Some cheap chinese stuff is very hit and miss too,be aware. If to buy ready made,always use a reputable shop,no market stall or dodgy net site(just my opinion and prior experience). Look on TW site and shows ingredients for example.

Either way its cheaper than smoking...........over £8 for 20.......a day x 31= ouch not to mention health.

Reg the atlantis,it comes to life around 20w on,needs the power to get the best flavour. I find coils last around a week before flavour or slight burn taste. Again differs per use so only a rough example.

For anyone trying sub ohm tanks,please be aware these are not suitable for normal ecig mods. Only ones compatible with sub ohm(will not work and think coil has gone) or wont deliver power. Also IMR or INR cells are a must. At around 20w and 0.5 ohm coils,your asking the battery for 6.5Amps give/take,at 30w then closer to 8a(varies a little depending on device,(one may be 4.0v,another 3.5v yet both hit same)just examples!.

No standard ICR cell is capable safely delivering much more than 4a..........and thats good branded panasonic B cells,not the AVOID *****fire cells)

ven

Another bonus with home made is making it to your liking,more PG if you want throat hit(I dont) more VG or AG(AG is diluted VG due to viscosity) for vape and smooth. So i tend to go 50/50 or the misses moans of the clouds...........

General TW patriot range for example is 80 pg and 20vg%

Not to mention tweaking flavour,as sweat or not as you want.........really is the way forward imho but not for everyone.

Realistic,i can make 200ml of fluid in under 5 mins............easy, and i dont rush.

ossett2k2

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Hi ven have you got any links to where best to buy the ingredients to make my own liquid please?
Cheers
Rich

bioforger

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Excellent no steeping needed then

ven

Hi there,i started with this kit but used discount code so paid iirc about 20% less at time.
http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.co....g-product.html

Now how i would do it now(cheaper) is

250ml of PG and 250ml of AG(diluted VG)
Here
http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.co....2-product.html

That will last a good while,could buy 100ml,but better value with 250ml,you may get 60ml to try first...........just thoughts

Now nicotine is classed as a poison(because it is)so controlled,limited to 72mg or maybe 80mg depending where you read,either way 72mg is available and highest concentrate=less used per mix=cheaper long term

I buy mine from here
http://www.goforsmoke.com/100ml-unfl...ine-9812-p.asp

Can buy more ml,like 250ml.........or even 5L up to you,so already we have made a saving on kit,and much more PG/AG............BUT we need something to mix in
Flavours are just that,no nic,just flavour,i get these
http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.co....-products.html

Tend to go orange top,but both are good,depends on what you want and whats available etc for you
So i cant be bothered mixing 5ml of flavours,this means counting drops so i make 50ml batches a time and use
http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.co....r-product.html

I make several lots and fill a larger container and store,i then top the 30ml bottles up etc(will do pics at end to explain and show)

Mixing bottles,once mixed in cylinder,then poor amount(does not have to be 50ml,could be 20ml,just handy to have a larger one as the time will come when for convenience you may make a batch of a higher ml
http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.co....2-product.html

I use this calc for my mixing,the link i will post but shows blank,so will take a pic of my mix to show how works
http://www.c9v-forum.com/Resources/Calc/calc.htm

I wish someone did this for me would have made it so easy!

Right calc pic,i have filled in the 72mg top,20% flav etc etc in top box,so need to alter to suit what you want. May want 15% flavour,may want 25% flav,so it will alter everything else slightly...........if makes sense


Bottom is worked out

I then get the 50ml beaker/cylinder and poor each amount in it.....simple as that. So 12.5ml of 72mg nic in beaker should show 12.5ml,then on top add 10ml flavour(for 20%)

Now beaker should show 22.5ml

Tbh the 0.5ml bits,no need for ocd so say 28ml of PG and AG mix. If wanted 50/50 PG/AG then simply add 14ml of each...........etc etc to what % variation you want.
Then of course your nicotine amount dependent on strength you have......

Bottles now

These are 250ml of PG and AG


This is a pre made 50/50 mix of PG/AG i made with spare 250ml bottle i had previous for ease,so i would just pour 28ml from this bottle(see gets even easier now)

And for size,2x30ml at hand bottles,and 1x100ml i top them up with when required. I keep the 30ml bottles in different locations,example ,one with me,one in kitchen to top up tank before bed ready for work in morning.



I always give the ready made fluid a good shake to mix,also habit in the 30ml bottles too before topping tanks up.

Fire away any Qs if not sure hope a little easier / clearer

You soon tweak to what you want,some flavours are stronger so maybe 10% is enough rather than 20%,others may req 30%...........

But i would recommend making a small amount at 1st to make sure right,making even 30ml of something horrid is a waste

So maybe 5 or 10ml at 1st,if need tweak a little next time. Adding PG or AG after is not a good idea as it does not work like that. Can get away with adding a little more flavour,but otherwise effects nic levels etc too.

Cheers ven

ven

Oh forgot to add,you can buy PG or VG based nicotine,VG is thicker and what i use.........no real reason tbh,just to point out. Tend to get more vapour/smooth and being VG based,even doing a 50/50 mix with diluent bottles will either add a higher % of PG or VG dependent on Nic bottle choice.

ossett2k2

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Thanks ven
Apart from me asking you to actually make it for me you have given great advice,well a full tutorial. Much appreciated mate

ven

Any time,welcome