How long does mapping take?
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i think it depends on if there are any problems encountered during the session. my wagon was mapped by andy f on an apexi and commander in around an hour or so. i think with ecutek a base map of similar spec and mods is uploaded to the ecu and then tweaked. a map from scratch would take hours i would think. on mapping days they do 4 or 5 cars barring any car having major probs.
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Last time I had mine mapped took about 30 minutes to do 2 cars lol friends car didn't last long and I have tweaked mine as just doing fourth gear pulls doesn't do enough
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jaygsi,
Bob Rawle spent a full day (over two days - half a day road mapping and half a day dyno and final road checks) to map my last STI.
It all depends on your modification level and what you actually want doing.
Bob Rawle spent a full day (over two days - half a day road mapping and half a day dyno and final road checks) to map my last STI.
It all depends on your modification level and what you actually want doing.
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Bob spends a full day on mine aswell ,, in the past iv asked to sneak on the end of someone else's mapping session and he has always told me there isn't enough time but I'd prefer someone to take there time and get it right
Group mapping is not for me for this reason
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takes as long as it takes, an hour to days. If mapper finds faults they may need to be sorted (be amazed how many dodgy sensors get found) rather than just mapped around. Anyone trying to do 5+ cars in a day should be avoided like the plauge
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arrived at RCMs dyno 12pm, left 5.30pm with no faults my phone bat died at 2pm so I was board sh1tless until my car went on the dyno..
my cousins blob took 2days in total due to finding faulty sensors etc..
my cousins blob took 2days in total due to finding faulty sensors etc..
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I've been reading quite a lot of technical stuff lately about fuel trims, ECU loging etc to help diagnose a bad fuelling/misfire problem I had, and I've realised there is SO much knowledge and experience needed to go into a decent and safe remap. SO MUCH!
And even for an experienced mapper, there are so many variables, possible bad sensors, failing fuel pumps, dirty filters, even little boost leaks, so many things that can throw a spanner int he works, not to mention that the remap really needs doing and fine-tuning for many different scenarios (light load, mid-load, heavy load, WOT, partial throttle, etc etc).
I'd be more happy knowing that someone had spent the best part of a day, or more if necessary and got the job done properly, than to expect it done in an hour for peanuts. It's just not worth it.
And even for an experienced mapper, there are so many variables, possible bad sensors, failing fuel pumps, dirty filters, even little boost leaks, so many things that can throw a spanner int he works, not to mention that the remap really needs doing and fine-tuning for many different scenarios (light load, mid-load, heavy load, WOT, partial throttle, etc etc).
I'd be more happy knowing that someone had spent the best part of a day, or more if necessary and got the job done properly, than to expect it done in an hour for peanuts. It's just not worth it.
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I've been reading quite a lot of technical stuff lately about fuel trims, ECU loging etc to help diagnose a bad fuelling/misfire problem I had, and I've realised there is SO much knowledge and experience needed to go into a decent and safe remap. SO MUCH!
And even for an experienced mapper, there are so many variables, possible bad sensors, failing fuel pumps, dirty filters, even little boost leaks, so many things that can throw a spanner int he works, not to mention that the remap really needs doing and fine-tuning for many different scenarios (light load, mid-load, heavy load, WOT, partial throttle, etc etc).
I'd be more happy knowing that someone had spent the best part of a day, or more if necessary and got the job done properly, than to expect it done in an hour for peanuts. It's just not worth it.
And even for an experienced mapper, there are so many variables, possible bad sensors, failing fuel pumps, dirty filters, even little boost leaks, so many things that can throw a spanner int he works, not to mention that the remap really needs doing and fine-tuning for many different scenarios (light load, mid-load, heavy load, WOT, partial throttle, etc etc).
I'd be more happy knowing that someone had spent the best part of a day, or more if necessary and got the job done properly, than to expect it done in an hour for peanuts. It's just not worth it.
You have all the time in the world plus can log every scenario to your hearts content,this way you really do end up with the perfect tailored map.
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I think that can depend on the car setup as well though, if your a regular WRX say going to a sportscat and free flowing exhaust then PPP map has you pretty much there. You'd only need to confrim fuelling with the wideband and make sure it's not knocking (which would be unlikely given that the PPP timing isn't much over stock timing and was also sold in the UK).
It's when you get into the non-standard/irregular things that you'll need to be at it all day like a 2.1 stroker or a unique set of cams, maybe a strange and unusual intake etc. that would add in more time than usual.
This assumes that your healthcheck is showing that all is well before any changes are made but again most folk will be taking some data beforehand to be sure the car is running as it should, I've seen a few cars now that have had vac hoses popped off or small leaks that have gone unnoticed until the laptops been hooked up.
It's when you get into the non-standard/irregular things that you'll need to be at it all day like a 2.1 stroker or a unique set of cams, maybe a strange and unusual intake etc. that would add in more time than usual.
This assumes that your healthcheck is showing that all is well before any changes are made but again most folk will be taking some data beforehand to be sure the car is running as it should, I've seen a few cars now that have had vac hoses popped off or small leaks that have gone unnoticed until the laptops been hooked up.
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